Anne: A few more Ellwoods Anne Ellwood m 1774 (Long Marton) Thomas Thornborrow Bridget Ellwood m 1729 ( Dufton) Robert Thornborrow Mary Ellwood m 1862 (Crosby Ravensworth ) Benjamin Stephenson Maria ( Mary) m 1695 ( Dufton) George Thornborrow ...............Keith

In a senior moment I incorrectly gave the wrong surname for Joseph Turner Atkinson's wife in my earlier email. It should have said Joseph Turner Atkinson married Charlotte Edith FLEMING in late 1882. (The surname Pownall, which I inadvertently quoted, was in fact Charlotte's mother's maiden name). Derek. Researching - Backhouse, Fleming, Holme, Walker, Harrison, Franklin/Frankland, Medcalf, Troughton, Leak, Dent, Braithwaite.

Hi Karen, I have an Elizabeth Langhorne from Crosby Ravensworth. A little before your Isabel but I can't help thinking that there were not too many Langhorne's from there that were not related in some way. Elizabeth was married to Henry Wilkinson on 26 Jan 1615 at Crosby Ravensworth and died in 1667. I can not find parents for her as yet. If you trace yours back to earlier or find that she slots in with yours somewhere then let me know. Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Karen Palandri Sent: 10 December 2008 14:44 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] LANGHORNE Issabell c 1660 Crosby Ravenswortharea Hello, I have an Issabell LANGHORNE who married William BETHAM 21 Jun 1688 in Crosby Ravensworth on one of my twigs. Anyone have any information on this family? I believe William BETHAM died at Lankaber and was buried at CR 12 Dec 1693. The IGI says he was born 1663 but no parents are given. Karen Lyon, France ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 - Release Date: 09/12/2008 16:53

It's happening on all the lists - on Clwyd and Cheshire I got over 30 old emails each this morning Brian |-----Original Message----- |From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com |[mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of |Helen Campbell Blair |Sent: 10 December 2008 14:57 |To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com |Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Glitches ! | | Me too ! | |Helen | |----- Original Message ----- | WESTMORLAND] Glitches ! | | |> There must be some glitches happening with Rootsweb; I've |just received |> about five e-mails (which had already been delivered) from back in |> November. |> |> Barb, Ontario, Canada. |> |> ------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to |> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word |'unsubscribe' without |> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message | | |------------------------------- |To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to |ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word |'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body |of the message

Hello, I have an Issabell LANGHORNE who married William BETHAM 21 Jun 1688 in Crosby Ravensworth on one of my twigs. Anyone have any information on this family? I believe William BETHAM died at Lankaber and was buried at CR 12 Dec 1693. The IGI says he was born 1663 but no parents are given. Karen Lyon, France

Hello Kate, I have been looking through my very old notes and found the following. Banns and Marriage of -- Thomas Bland of Kirkby Kendale and Sarah Ellwood of this Parish.(Orton) Banns called 30 th. October - 6 th. November and 13 th.November 1785 Marriage 20th. November 1785 at Orton Westmorland. Witnesses. Henry Bland - Rich Hodgson - Thomas Farrow Curate - John Redman ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An archivist from the Kendal office is going to look out the details and when I return the signed Copyright Form, together with the necessary fee, the copies will be posted to me. Thomas and Sarah are my 4 x Great Grandparents I think there may be others searching the name Bland so forgive me for posting to the list. Regards AudreyM. nee Miskelly In Cumbria

In a message dated 10/12/2008 15:25:17 GMT Standard Time, GenTrees1974@aol.com writes: Hi Everybody, For those who visit the Cumbria Archives - a quick guide. (If you do not know already) _http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp_ (http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp) (http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.aspRegar dsAud reyM. nee MiskellyIn Cumbria) Hello Again, Re the above. What a rubbish posting - sorry. Here it is again For those who visit the Cumbria Archives - a quick guide. (If you do not know already) _http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp_ (http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp) Regards AudreyM. nee Miskelly In Cumbria

Hi Everybody, For those who visit the Cumbria Archives - a quick guide. (If you do not know already) _http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp_ (http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.asp) (http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/archives/recordoffices/Searchroom_security.aspRegardsAud reyM. nee MiskellyIn Cumbria) Regards AudreyM. nee Miskelly In Cumbria

Me too ! Helen ----- Original Message ----- WESTMORLAND] Glitches ! > There must be some glitches happening with Rootsweb; I've just received > about five e-mails (which had already been delivered) from back in > November. > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gillian Hello there 5th cousin, once removed! Yes I have Mary as daughter of Lancelot LANGHORN and Eleanor LAIDLAY with siblings Elizabeth (b 1778); Hannah (b 1780); Lancelot (b1785) and William (b1789). Am I right in thinking that your Lancelot married Hannah DOVER 1811 in Appleby? regards Cath ----- Original Message ----- From: "GG" <gillianmckenna@free.fr> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > Hi, > > Mary Langhorn b1783 Kirkby Thore is the daughter of Lancelot Langhorn & > Eleanor Laidley. Mary is the sister of Lancelot b1785. Lancelot is my ggg > grandfather. > > Regards, > > Gillian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cath Wooff" <cath@wooff.co.uk> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > > >> Hi David >> They aren't names I've come across yet but with that surname in >> Westmorland, >> the probabilities are fairly high that there's a connection somewhere in >> the >> dim and distant. I'm descended from Nicholas WOOF and Sarah STAGG who >> married 12 Mar 1770 in Lowther, through their son Joseph WOOF [b.c.1780 >> Lowther] and Mary LANGHORN [b.c.1783 Kirkby Thore] who married 6 July >> 1811 >> at Kirkby Thore. >> regards >> Cath >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> >> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:01 PM >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF >> >> >>> Hi Cath, >>> My wife has on her mother's side a Dorothy WOOF b abt 1833 Firbank, >>> Westmoreland marrying a John ASKEW b 1824 in Stainton on 1 Jan 1853 in >>> Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmoreland. Her father was a Thomas WOOFF who >>> married >>> Isabella HOGGARD. >>> Is there any connection to your family. >>> Regards, >>> David Bossenger >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cath, Thanks for the reply. It appears that we do not have a connection. Btw I have just, 9 Dec, received the digest dd 30 Nov! David B -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 30 November 2008 22:55 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 227 Today's Topics: 1. WOOFF (David and Mary Bossenger) 3. Re: WOOFF (Cath Wooff) 7. Re: WOOFF (GG) Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:29:04 -0000 From: "Cath Wooff" <cath@wooff.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1F06ABEA42FC4E3BB8304C5C449CDF2D@CathPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi David They aren't names I've come across yet but with that surname in Westmorland, the probabilities are fairly high that there's a connection somewhere in the dim and distant. I'm descended from Nicholas WOOF and Sarah STAGG who married 12 Mar 1770 in Lowther, through their son Joseph WOOF [b.c.1780 Lowther] and Mary LANGHORN [b.c.1783 Kirkby Thore] who married 6 July 1811 at Kirkby Thore. regards Cath

Deaths recorded in the Ambleside Herald and Lakes News from March 1880 (issue No.1) to the end of 1885. Surnames beginning with the letter C Name of Deceased Date of death Age Where died Issue Page Cape, Wilkinson Saturday 65 Matterdale End Beck 01-Dec-1882 4 Inquest Carr, Mrs upwards of 60 26-Feb-1881 4 Carus-Wilson, William June 11 last 07-Sep-1883 4 Casson, James Sunday last 5 Coniston 18-Sep-1885 4 Chapman, Thomas 18th inst 61 Bowness 23-Oct-1880 4 Chase, Maria 20th inst 73 Tunbridge Wells 25-Jan-1884 4 Cheesman, Arthur 12th Sedgwick Gunpowder Co20-Apr-1883 4 Gunpowder explosion Cheesman, Henry Saturday Sedgwick Gunpowder Co.20-Apr-1883 4 Gunpowder explosion Clark, Ada Maud 24th inst 4y 9m Grasmere 29-Feb-1884 4 Clark, Agnes 28th inst 69 Ambleside 31-Aug-1883 4 Clark, Margaret 17th inst 61 Staveley 25-Dec-1885 4 Clark, Richard Monday abt 20 Derwentwater 07-Jul-1882 4 Obituary Clark, William 29th ult 68 Kendal 05-Feb-1881 4 Clarke, Robert 3rd inst 76 the Cresent, Ambleside 06-Jul-1883 4 Clarke, William Elleray 17 Jan 1882 25 Secunderabad, East India03-Mar-1882 4 Clifton, Thomas Henry buried Wednesday 10-Apr-1880 5 Cloudsdale, Harriet 2nd inst 4y 9m Ambleside 09-Jun-1882 4 Clucas, John last Tuesday 25 Barrow 18-Jun-1881 4 explosion on "City of Rome" Collingwood, John 4th inst 36 Queens Hotel, Ambleside 08-Oct-1881 4 Comber, Thomas Sunday Forshaw Street, Barrow 22-Jan-1881 4 Connor, William Sunday Bowness 23-Oct-1880 4 Cook, James Saturday 10 mill dam nr Raven Nook 08-Sep-1882 4 Inquest Cookson, Agnes 7th inst 75 Ambleside 15-Feb-1884 4 Copley, Hannah 28th ult 52 Ambleside 04-Dec-1885 5 Cornthwaite, Thomas Thursday abt 60 Kendal Hospital 06-Jul-1883 4 Inquest Costain, Alfred John Sunday 14 Albert Asylum, Lancaster23-Mar-1883 4 Obituary Coulman, Robert John 29th ult 16m Ambleside 02-Nov-1883 4 Coward, Ann 2nd inst 81 Craigfoot, Windermere 11-Sep-1885 4 Coward, Edward 29th inst 77 Church Coniston 07-Jan-1882 4 Coward, John 25th ult 12 Broad How, Patterdale 05-Jun-1880 11s Coward, Mary** 26th inst 58 Ambleside 31-Mar-1882 4 Coward, Minnie 3rd inst 5 Esthwaite Lake Cottage 09-Jul-1881 4 Coward, Rev. Jas. 8th ult 64 Kirkby-in-Furness 01-May-1885 4 vicar of Langdale 24 yrs Coward, William 22nd ult 60 Grasmere 01-Oct-1881 4 Cowie, Cath. Isabella 15th inst 34 Windermere 22-Jan-1881 4 Creighton, Grace 15th inst 88 Ambleside 22-Aug-1884 4 Creighton, Isaac 21 inst 79 Clappersgate 23-May-1884 4 Creighton, Joseph 13th nst 78 Ambleside 16-Feb-1883 4 Creighton, Lizzie Mary 27th inst 1y 10m Ambleside 30-Oct-1885 4 Creighton, Mary 31st ult 13 Low Park 02-Apr-1881 1 Crocker, Charles Saturday 28 Churchtown, Grasmere 09-Oct-1885 4 Obituary Croft, Herbert Maxton 17th inst infant Greenbank, Bowness 20-Nov-1885 5 Crosthwaite, Jane 24th inst 73 Elm Grove, Bowness 27-Nov-1880 4 Obituary Crosthwaite, Thomas 3rd inst 72 Windermere 07-Sep-1883 4 Crosthwaite, William Saturday 50 15-Aug-1884 4 Inquest Cumming, Edward W. 9th inst New South Wales 27-Oct-1882 4 Cunningham, James born 15-Aug-1780 25-May-1883 4 Obituary Currie, Mary 2nd inst 78 Crosses near Windermere10-Mar-1882 4 ** Mary Coward is distantly related to me, her maiden name is Mary Hird David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside Herald and Lakes News 28-July-1882 Sad End of a Native of Ambleside (Conclusion) A singular feature in the affair is the fact that the police made no attempt to discover the relatives of the unfortunate young man, which they could easily have done by communicating with the officers of the ship in which deceased last sailed, the name of which was mentioned by the witness VAUSE. As it was, the first intimation of the sad event was communicated to the brother-in-law of the deceased by the chief officer of the S.S. Symington in a letter dated July 18th, three days after the occurrence. The matter did not come to the knowledge of the officers of the vessel until a report of the inquest appeared in the papers, when the second officer went and recognised the body. The brother in law of the deceased young man, wrote at once asking for further particulars and received the following reply:- MR. PLUMB, Dear Sir, Yours to hand last evening. I am sure you would be sorry to hear the sad news. The deceased, JOHN BIGLAND, joined the S.S. Wm. Symington, last February twelve months, as Carpenter and Boatswain, and was here until last Wednesday week, when we were paid off. He left us with the intention of going either to Falmouth or Plymouth to pass his examination as 2nd Mate; he said good bye the same afternoon, and I was under the impression that he had left Liverpool the same evening, as was his intention, and he, poor fellow was full of hopes of being successful in his examination. I heard no more about him until I read the account in the papers on Monday, when I at once wrote to you. I am very sorry for his poor mother, as it will be a sad blow to her. There is no doubt as to his identity, as the Second Mate went to the deadhouse and was confident of the identity. I am very sorry that I have nothing that belongs to him, as I know that anything, no matter of how little value to anyone else, would be of great value to you. I am more grieved than I can tell you, as the deceased was well liked by all the officers, including myself. As to his effects, I believe that all he had are still at Lime Street Station, and I cannot inquire about them as I am no relative. He was paid off with about £25 to the best of my knowledge, and according to the papers, he had only a few shillings upon him. His watch and chain were missing, I should advise you to open a correspondence with the police authorities here, or come yourself. I am convinced that the police were lax in not inquiring on board the vessel, as they knew he had belonged to her. If they had done so it would have given you ample time to be over at the inquest. I am very sorry that I cannot give you more information, not being able to find out for myself, and I should be only glad to oblige you, as you must be as grieved as myself Yours, &c., A. STEVENSON On Monday last, Mr. ROBERT BIGLAND, went to Liverpool and ascertained beyond a doubt that it was indeed his brother who had come to such an untimely end. He there saw the chief officer of the Symington, who gave deceased an excellent character. His opinion as to the motive which had influenced the unfortunate young man to the rash act was this - when he left the vessel he was so confident of passing his examination, and then having got into bad company and lost all his money, his hopes were dashed to the ground, and the thought of this madly impelled him to the commission of the rash act which deprived him of life. Much sympathy is felt in Ambleside for the relatives of the deceased, who are well known and respected, in their bereavement.

Ambleside Herald and Lakes News 28-July-1882 Sad End of a Native of Ambleside On Saturday 15th inst., a young man, named JOHN BIGLAND, 25 years of age, son of Mr. JOHN BIGLAND, Church Street, Ambleside, came to his end under circumstances which leave little doubt but that he, in a fit of mental aberration, rashly fired a shot which terminated his existence. The facts of the case as disclosed at the inquest are as follows: On the body of JOHN BIGLAND, about 25 years of age, a ship carpenter. ALICE FREDERICKS, an unfortunate, who said she was 18 and had come from a comfortable home in Glasgow, and that she lived in a house of ill fame: 1,10 Court, Prince William Street, stated that she met deceased on Wednesday evening in a free-and-easy at 60 Paradise Street. He went home with her and stayed during Wednesday and Thursday nights. They went to Manchester races on Friday, and deceased left her about nine o'clock, stating that he wanted to look for a pocket book which he had lost. She went home about eleven o'clock with a "professional" named Kirk, and about two o'clock the deceased was admitted to the house and asked to see her. She came downstairs and told him she was "with an old friend." He then shook hands with her, kissed her, and said "Good bye, you don't think anything of me; I am going to shoot myself, and if you follow I will shoot you". He then left, and shortly afterward she heard a report, and on looking out saw the deceased sitting in the court. She did not go out as she was afraid, but she told the other inmates of the house, including a private in the 2nd Dragoons, named FELLS, of the affair. None of them went out, as they were frightened. She knew he had a revolver, as on the previous Wednesday he had given her a box containing cartridges. On Thursday she and the deceased were photographed together. MRS. JONES, the wife of a carter, said that on Saturday morning she heard a man call out "Alice" in the court referred to. This was abut three o'clock. She got up, and saw the decease at the door of No. 1 house. An hour and a half later she saw the deceased lying down in a corner of the court, and saw two soldiers, one of whom set the deceased up against the wall . The soldiers left, and the deceased again fell. Police constable 534 stated he was called to the court a few minutes past five, and found the deceased lying dead. He had a wound in the right temple. Under his leg witness found a six-chambered revolver. Four of the chambers were loaded, and two had recently been discharged. The body was taken to the deadhouse by Police constable 65. On it were found 6s 5½d, a purse, a pencil case, and a likeness of the girl Fredericks and the deceased. On the likeness was a piece of paper with "Good-by Alice" on it. The dragoon FELLS, stated that when he left the house he lifted the deceased, who he thought was in a drunken sleep, and placed him against the wall. He hid not notice any wounds nor the revolver. GEORGE VAUSE, licensed victualler, 60 Paradise Street, sated that the deceased was paid off on Wednesday from the ship 'William Symington', on which he had been boatswain and carpenter. He believed the deceased was a native of Westmorland. The medical evidence was that death was from the gunshot wound. The Jury returned an open verdict. ... to be continued

Hi David I think this is your lot in 1861. RG09 Piece 3963 Folio 117 Page 6 Reg Dist Kendal Sub Dist 1 Ambleside Enum District 8 Parish Kentmere Address Nook, Kentmer, Westmorland COWPERTHWAITE Edward Head M M 44 1817 Farmer Shap W/Land COWPERTHWAITE Agness wife m f 46 1815 Kentmere, W/land COWPERTHWAITE Christopher son m 11 1850 Scholar Kentmere, W/land COWPERTHWAITE Edward son m 9 1852 Scholar Kentmere, W/Land COWPERTHWAITE Jane daughter f 4 1857 Scholar, Kentmere,W/land I hope this is of use to you. I got all the information from www.findmypast which is a really useful site and if you have a lot of looking up to do then worth subscribing to. They don't have all the 1851 census on their site yet but if I get a chance I will see if I can find 1851 on Genes Reunited Ruth Borrowdale (Swinton)

Hi David, Many thanks for the extra info on the Backhouse deaths. Derek.

There must be some glitches happening with Rootsweb; I've just received about five e-mails (which had already been delivered) from back in November. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hi David, Another page of invaluable information and a boon to those of us who can't get up to Kendal very often. If you have the time, I would appreiate the full notice details for the following, who are siblings of my Great Great Grandfather, James Backhouse of Rydal. >Backhouse, Dinah 20th inst 71 Jiffy Notts, Brathay 27-Feb-1885 4 >Backhouse, Fleming July 25th 79 Rydal 31-Jul-1885 4 Many thanks, Derek.

Ambleside Herald and Lakes News 17-Sep-1881 Page 4 Deaths On the 20th inst at Ambleside, JAMES BACKHOUSE aged, 58 years Sudden Death at Ambleside On Tuesday afternoon last, whilst the town was in deep grief over the interment of the late vicar, it was startled with the report that Mr. JAS. BACKHOUSE of Edinboro, had expired suddenly at The Croft, whilst engaged in the employment of MRS. FLETCHER. At first the report was scarcely credited, as MR. BACKHOUSE was known to be a hale and hearty man, and a stranger to illness, but it eventually proved only too true. It appears that deceased, on the afternoon in question had been engaged working at The Croft, and had several times complained of not feeling well. During the early part of the afternoon he had been assisting in the cartage of stones, and afterwards commenced to assist in the cutting up of a horse which had died the Saturday previous, and which was required as tillage for the vines. He, however, was not able to continue at this occupation, as his indisposition increased, and he complained of a pain in the chest. Notwithstanding, he partook of tea with MR. FELL, the gardener, and appeared to enjoy it, although he still spoke of not feeling very well. Shortly afterwards he went and sat himself down in the garden, and becoming suddenly worse, expired at a little after five o'clock, before medical assistance could be obtained. When DR. KING arrived on the spot he pronounced life to be extinct. The deceased's brother (Mr. T. BACKHOUSE) being informed of the sad event, had the body (which had in the meantime been watched over by MRS. FLETCHER, who was deeply grieved) conveyed to Edinboro, whither the news had previously been gently broken to deceased's sisters with whom he lived. MR. JAS. BACKHOUSE was by occupation a shepherd and had been employed as such in New Zealand for eleven years and Australia for five or six years. He was a man well known in the district, and was of a kindly and intelligent disposition. His remains were decided to be interred on Friday the 23rd inst. It was thought that an inquest on the body would perhaps be held, but particulars of the occurrence having been forwarded by PC TAGGART to the coroner, he decided it was unnecessary. David Leverton

Ambleside Herald and Lakes News 8-June-1883 Melancholy Coincidence A sad calamity has taken place during the present week, coincident to the death of MRS. BREALEY, wife of the REV. F. BREALEY, and eldest daughter of the late G. REDMAYNE, Esq., of Brathay Hall. It will be remembered that the deceased lady passed away on the 27th of April last, at Little Linford, after much suffering, caused by an accident which shortened her life. The accident referred to was her having been taken with a fit whilst standing on the hearth and falling into the fire. It is singular that on the self same spot, within the past few days, her husband, the REV. F. BREALEY, should likewise have met his death, having fallen down in a fit and expired, but happily not into the fire. The deceased gentleman, who was widely known in this district, was interred at Brathay yesterday, when a number of friends and relatives were present. Mr. W. STALKER of Ambleside, superintended all the arrangements. David Leverton