Hello Sarah, If you remember you sent me some information you had on Blasterfield some time ago Karen Palandri Karen.palandri@orange.fr I am a direct descendant of William POTTER and Ann BETHAM who baptised children in Crosby Ravensworth 1751-1770.The family lived at Crosby Hall 1751-1765 and Blasterfield 1767-1770. William was the son of William POTTER and Margaret BIRD of Orton and the POTTER family was in Orton for quite some time before that. Ann BETHAM we think may be the daughter of John BETHAM who was baptised at Morland 24 Apr 1728, of Little Strickland. I would like to find out about the deaths and burials of William and Ann POTTER. Are there any of their children buried at CR? Do they have any information on Crosby Hall or Blasterfield? William and Ann's daughters married: Michael HAYTON of Orton, Richard EMERSON/EDMUNDSON of CR, possibly James ROBINSON of Orton- is there any information on them? Thank you and best wishes Karen

Deaths recorded in the Ambleside Herald and Lakes News from March 1880 (issue No.1) to the end of 1885. Surnames beginning with the letter F Name of Deceased Date of death Age Where died Issue Page Fairer, Ruth Saturday 60 Asby near Appleby 16-Apr-1881 4 Fallowfield, Sarah 29th ult 66 Green Stile near Bowness02-Oct-1885 4 Faulkner, Benjamin Thursday week 08-Jan-1881 4 Inquest Fielding, Charles 24th 57 Charlton House, Dover 01-Feb-1884 4 Fildes, Lavinia 13th inst Gillbank, Hawkshead 16-Jan-1885 4 Fisher, Eleanor 13th inst 70 Bowness 19-Sep-1884 4 Fisher, Elizabeth Anne 26th ult 26 Halifax 06-Mar-1885 4 Obituary Fitzjames, P 12th inst Bowness 18-Feb-1882 4 Fleming, Frederick Louis 5th inst infant 10-Dec-1881 4 Fleming, Geo. 16th inst 63 Far End, Coniston 23-Apr-1881 4 Fleming, John B 3rd inst 22 Langdale 11-Dec-1880 4 Inquest Fleming, Margaret 20th inst 81 Ambleside 21-May-1881 4 Obituary Fleming, Margaret 20-Mar-1881 28-May-1881 4 born Feb. 10, 1880 Fleming, the son 14th inst 11m Ambleside 19-Mar-1881 4 Fleming, Thomas Saturday last Northern Hospital 26-Oct-1883 4 Fleming, W. Last Monday 56 Abbeystead 22-Oct-1881 4 Fleming, William 2nd inst 9m Ambleside 12-Feb-1881 4 Fletcher, Alice 24th inst 40 Fever Hosp. Islington 29-Feb-1884 4 Forrest, Isabella 21st inst 80 Hawkshead 25-Jul-1884 4 Forrest, William 13th inst 76 High Wray 18-Sep-1885 5 Forsyth, Thomas 30th ult 82 Windermere 04-Dec-1880 4 Obituary Fothergill, Charles 13th inst 16 days Grasmere 20-Feb-1885 4 Fothergill, Merrick 13th inst 16m Allan Bank, Grasmere 17-Oct-1884 4 Fowler, Elizabeth 25th 32 Hull 01-Feb-1884 4 Fraser, Helen 28th ult Manchester 01-May-1880 5 Fulcher, Rebecca 9th inst 83 Ambleside 13-Oct-1882 4 Fuller, Alban Oswald 24th ult 11 Grasmere 01-Dec-1882 4 David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Deaths recorded in the Ambleside Herald and Lakes News from March 1880 (issue No.1) to the end of 1885. Surnames beginning with the letter D and E Name of Deceased Date of death Age Where died Issue Page Dallas, Barbara Golan Saturday 26 Strickland Place, Kendal 08-Dec-1882 4 Obituary Darling, Rev. James Sunday last Brampton near Shap 23-Mar-1883 4 Obituary Dawes, Elizabeth 25th ult 60 Rydal 01-May-1885 4 Dawson, Daniel 29th ult 92 Little Langdale 03-Jul-1885 4 Dawson, Miss 23rd inst 79 Randy Pike, Hawkshead 30-Oct-1880 4 Dawson, William 19th inst 84 22-Jan-1881 4 de Ruti, Gisela 21st inst 24 Derwent Hill nr Keswick 02-May-1884 4 Denny, Holmes Sunday 31 Applethwaite 09-Mar-1883 4 Obituary Denny, John 25th inst 12wks Ambleside 29-Dec-1882 4 Dickinson, Margaret 29th ult 60 Colthouse nr Hawkshead05-Jun-1880 11s Dixon, Edward 24th ult 58 Grasmere 05-Jun-1880 11s Dixon, Jane 9th inst 37 Harrowslack 12-May-1882 4 Dixon, Jeremiah 1st inst 79th yr Balla Wray 04-Aug-1882 1 Dixon, John Wednesday wk 74th yr Crook-a-beck, Patterdale25-May-1883 4 Obituary Dixon, Margaret 14th inst 74 Grasmere 17-Dec-1881 4 Dixon, Mrs. 71 16-Oct-1885 4 Obituary Dobson, Christopher 2nd inst 31 Yew Tree Farm, Crook 07-Aug-1885 4 Dodd, Mr. Saturday Gilsland 22-Oct-1881 4 suicide Donaldson, Nancy 18th inst Ambleside 26-Feb-1881 4 born Feb. 25, 1796 Dove, Jane 26-May-1881 Coniston 04-Jun-1881 4 born Dec. 14, 1832 Dow, John Saturday last H.M. Prison, Kendal 08-Feb-1884 4 Dugdale, Margaret 26th inst 1y 4m Grizedale, Satterthwaite 30-Apr-1881 4 Earle, General in battle 20-Feb-1885 4 Obituary Eccleston, William 25 Preston 23-Apr-1881 4 Edmonds, Colonel Saturday 59 Victoria Road, Penrith 22-Feb-1884 4 Obituary Edwards, a boy Saturday abt 14 near Dalton 10-Jul-1885 4 railway accident Elletson, Hannah 1st inst 74 Ambleside 13-Mar-1885 4 Elliott, Thomas 26th inst 49 Ambleside 28-Jan-1882 4 Obituary Ellis, Agnes 16th inst 26 Ambleside 21-Jul-1882 4 Ellis, Catherine 2nd inst 53 Ambleside 08-Jan-1881 4 Ellis, Sarah 27th inst 12 Ambleside 29-Jun-1883 4 England, Mr. 29th ult 26 Lake Windermere 07-Aug-1885 4 Inquest Evans, Rev. John 26th 74 Hoghton Street, Southport29-May-1880 5 Evennett, Martha 5th inst 54 Monk Coniston 14-May-1881 4 Obituary Everet, Cecilia 2nd inst 9m Thrang, Langdale 12-May-1882 4 Ewington, Agnes 24th inst 38 Ambleside 31-Dec-1881 4 David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Tery, Yes, there is. I am posting it in sections. David. On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:43:32 -0000, you wrote: > >David, > Is there an index to all these people ?. Terry. >

Hello Sarah I'd love to know if they have any more info on the Holme family of Barnskew - seems all their baptisms, marriages and burials were at Crosby Ravensworth. In particular I'd like to confirm that Thomas Holme (bap 8 Mar 1759; died 27 Dec 1843) was son of Henry the younger (b.c 1721, buried 27/1/1798) who in turn was son of Henry the elder, believe died circa. 1756. All 3 were west ward high constables and I would love to find out more about the family, even if it's just the name of Thomas's mother as I can't find reference to her at all regards Cath Wooff cath@wooff.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "SarahReveley" <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Crosby Ravensworth > How many people out there have an interest in Crosby Ravensworth? If you > will post a note to the list with a BRIEF description, and limited to a > specific question, I can send the local historians a note....they have a > wonderful new parish archives room with all kinds of goodies. If you have > anything to share on your CR ancestors, they will be thrilled to have a > copy. > > Please include your name and email address so they can email you back, > then you can get into more detail with them. > > Example: > > Sarah Reveley > > sarahreveley@grandecom.net > Reveley family > Late 1700s to mid 1800s > Thomas Reveley was the church Vicar > Brick Wall - Where is Thomas' son George Williamson Reveley buried? > George died May 22, 1865. > > His wife Charlotte died December 15, 1864. > > > > I would like to combine everyone's request into one note. > > > > Sarah > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

MR. J. W. ALLAN. We deeply regret to announce the death of an esteemed and talented contributor " A Rambler " (MR. JOHN WILLIAM ALLAN), who expired at his residence in Elswick Row, on Friday last. MR. ALLAN was a partner in the firm of MESSRS. SCOTT and ALLAN, merchants and commission agents, Bigg Market. During the last two years, he had been in delicate health, and on two or three occasions had been seriously ill. After a brief sojourn in Ryedale, whither he went for change of air, he appeared to have almost recovered; but unfortunately during the recent showery weather, he caught a severe cold. MR. ALLAN was an observing, smart, and tacile descriptive writer and his contributions to our columns, narrating his holiday wanderings in out-of-the-way places in Northumberland, Cumberland, Westmorland, and Durham, were very eagerly read. Some of the articles describing north-country parsonages were also his. He was a most kind, genial, and entertaining companion, ,and this intimation of his death before he had reached the prime of life will be read with deep sorrow in many a shepherd's cottage in Northumberland, as it may be also in the homes of some of the poor in our own town. His remains were interred on Monday at St. Nicholas' Cemetery, in a flowering resting place, after a special service at St. Matthew's, where some of the members of St. Peter's choir also assembled to pay a last tribute to their late friend.

AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY. Probably the farming community will not be surprised to learn that the Cumberland and Westmorland Agricultural Society is once more in the unenviable position of being burthened with financial difficulties of a somewhat serious nature. It fell to the lot of the secretary last Tuesday to unfold a "budget" of a most unsatisfactory character, showing, as it did, that whilst the balance in the bank was only £70, there were liabilities amounting to £150, and that sum may probably be exceeded if all claims upon the society's funds are duly put forward. .....Penrith Observer.....

CENSUS. It was a "dead 'un" - one that had been improperly filled up. But surely these should be destroyed and not kept by the enumerators for the amusement of visitors and friends. People are writing to the papers to say that at whole blocks of buildings, there were no papers left; at other places they were not called for; and in many cases they were neither left nor called for. The most successful of the enumerators were the clergymen, who with praiseworthy public spirit, volunteered to do the work in their own parishes.

How many people out there have an interest in Crosby Ravensworth? If you will post a note to the list with a BRIEF description, and limited to a specific question, I can send the local historians a note....they have a wonderful new parish archives room with all kinds of goodies. If you have anything to share on your CR ancestors, they will be thrilled to have a copy. Please include your name and email address so they can email you back, then you can get into more detail with them. Example: Sarah Reveley sarahreveley@grandecom.net Reveley family Late 1700s to mid 1800s Thomas Reveley was the church Vicar Brick Wall - Where is Thomas' son George Williamson Reveley buried? George died May 22, 1865. His wife Charlotte died December 15, 1864. I would like to combine everyone's request into one note. Sarah

Hi Gillian Thanks for the quick reply. I noticed the spelling difference but, as you know, in early times people usually didn't fuss much about the spelling of names. I didn't know my Langhornes were a bit up market, but it certainly doesn't make them any more interesting than their namesakes without an "e". They probably had the same ancestors way back. If dna testing becomes cheap enough we will find out a lot more about all these distant connections. Regards Ken didnin----- Original Message ----- From: <gillianmckenna@free.fr> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Langhorne > Hi Ken, > > I do not have a link with my Kirkby Thore Langhorns to Shap or CR > Langhornes. > Notice the spelling difference! I was told by Dean Langhorn that the extra > "e" > was to distinguish between the esteemed Langhornes of CR and the riffraff > that > is our family in Kirkby Thore!!!!! > > Regards, > > Gillian > > > Selon Ken Thompson <kethomps@tpg.com.au>: > >> Hello Gillian >> >> Do you connect with Margaret Langhorne ch 1707 Shap or William Langhorn >> ch >> 1672 at Crosby Ravensworth ? >> >> Regards >> >> Ken >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "GG" <gillianmckenna@free.fr> >> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:54 AM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > Mary Langhorn b1783 Kirkby Thore is the daughter of Lancelot Langhorn >> > & >> > Eleanor Laidley. Mary is the sister of Lancelot b1785. Lancelot is my >> > ggg >> > grandfather. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Gillian >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Cath Wooff" <cath@wooff.co.uk> >> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:29 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF >> > >> > >> >> Hi David >> >> They aren't names I've come across yet but with that surname in >> >> Westmorland, >> >> the probabilities are fairly high that there's a connection somewhere >> >> in >> >> the >> >> dim and distant. I'm descended from Nicholas WOOF and Sarah STAGG who >> >> married 12 Mar 1770 in Lowther, through their son Joseph WOOF >> >> [b.c.1780 >> >> Lowther] and Mary LANGHORN [b.c.1783 Kirkby Thore] who married 6 July >> >> 1811 >> >> at Kirkby Thore. >> >> regards >> >> Cath >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> >> >> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:01 PM >> >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi Cath, >> >>> My wife has on her mother's side a Dorothy WOOF b abt 1833 Firbank, >> >>> Westmoreland marrying a John ASKEW b 1824 in Stainton on 1 Jan 1853 >> >>> in >> >>> Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmoreland. Her father was a Thomas WOOFF who >> >>> married >> >>> Isabella HOGGARD. >> >>> Is there any connection to your family. >> >>> Regards, >> >>> David Bossenger >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> >> without >> >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> > without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News - 5-Feb-1881 Page 4 Death of William Clark On 29th ult. at Kendal, William Clark, age 68 years. During the present week there was interred in Underbarrow churchyard the body of William Clark making a total of twenty-four persons, relatives of Mr. T. N. Clark of Rydal Farm, who have been interred in this resting place. The number includes Mr. Clark's great grandmother, grandfather, grandmother twelve brothers and sisters and other relatives. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 15-Aug-1884 Death of Wm Crosthwaite - conclusion HANNAH PICKTHALL said: I am in domestic service with deceased's cousin, Mr. JOSEPH CROSTHWAITE, junr., of Orrest Head. I saw the deceased at the kitchen door of Orrest Head about a quarter past one o'clock yesterday afternoon; he asked if the young master was in, meaning Mr. JOSEPH CROSTHWAITE, junr., and I told him "No"; he then inquired if the old master had come to his dinner and I told him he had not. The deceased said something about the hay and used the expression "Tommy's got a better mate than I am." Margaret the housekeeper asked him to have a glass of beer but he did not have one. He then went away. He appeared dull in his manner but was perfectly sober. MR. HARTLEY thought he could explain the gist of the meaning of the expression about "Tommy". "Tommy" was a servant with Mr. J. Crosthwaite, and along with another man was employed haymaking on the previous day, and deceased considered himself slighted in not being asked to go to the hayfield, instead of which he was set to work with a horse and cart, loading wood from Bowness and he considered the work too much for him. JOHN WRIGHT, carter for MR. PATTINSON, of Bowness - found the body of the deceased lying on the road about half a mile above the entrance to the reservoir belonging to the Windermere Waterworks Company. He was lying on his back and the knife was lying on the bank about four yards away. RICHARD CROSTHWAITE son of the deceased - did not recognize the knife but had not seen much of his father for some time back. He knew, however, that he was in the constant habit of carrying a pocket knife and thought he had seen him with one very like the one produced. PS WATSON: I have seen deceased using a knife very similar to the one found near the body. There was no appearance of any struggle about where deceased was found. MARY SHAW, grocer stated: I am the wife of WILLIAM SHAW, labourer of Windermere. This afternoon I washed and laid out the body of deceased. There were no marks of violence with the exception of the cut on the neck which might be three inches in length or nearly so. It was on the right side of the neck. The jury almost immediately found that "deceased cut his throat whilst suffering from a fit of temporary insanity" The funeral took place on Sunday afternoon last, the cortege leaving the deceased's late residence shortly before two o'clock for the cemetery at Bowness, the hearse being preceded by a large number of members of the club to which deceased belonged. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 15-Aug-1884 Death of Wm Crosthwaite - Part 1 Melancholy Case of Suicide at Windermere It is with indescribable feelings of regret that in our issue of today it become our duty to chronicle the sad circumstances which relate to the blotting out of existence the life of one who was so familiarly known, not only to the residents of Ambleside, but to the majority of those who have been in the habit of journeying between Windermere and Keswick during the past 20 years, as WILLIAM CROSTHWAITE of Windermere who when seated on the coach box could handle the "ribbons" in a style which could be excelled by none and many there are, who but three short seasons ago were on the look out morning after morning to enjoy the pleasure of admiring the style in which the "Sportsman" coach, with its splendid team of horses dashed through the town under the pilotage of BILLY CROSTHWAITE. But alas, those who knew poor Billy will know him no more. It is apparently pretty clear that the inability to regain a situation as driver on one of the coaches, which was the one occupation on which he doted, had preyed upon his mind to a considerable extent and was the principal source of the despondency which was noticed to have come over him sometime back An inquest was held at the Elleray Hotel, Windermere on Friday evening the eighth inst, before J.B. WILSON, Esq., coroner and a jury of which Mr. W. HARRISON was foreman. ANNIE CROSTHWAITE of Windermere (who was visibly affected and gave her evidence with difficulty) deposed as follows: The deceased, WILLIAM CROSTHWAITE was my husband. He was a labourer and 50 years of age: for a couple of months or so he has been in low spirits but became considerably more so during the past three weeks. He was formerly a coachman but lost his situation some time ago, and I attributed his despondency to that, as he was unsuccessful in obtaining another coach. I last saw him at home yesterday at about a quarter to one o'clock when I went out. He appeared as cheerful as usual and I did not notice anything peculiar out of the usual way about him at that time. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News - 20-Apr-1883 Serious Gunpowder Explosion An explosion of a serious character occurred on the 12th, at the works of the New Sedgwick Gunpowder Co, near Kendal. About noon on Tuesday, in the cartridge house, three men were engaged, namely ARTHUR CHEESEMAN, HENRY CHEESEMAN, and JAMES SHEPHERD. The mill exploded in a terrific manner, the shock being heard at a great distance, while the flash illuminated the whole neighbourhood. The three men were found in a greatly injured state. DR. LEEMING, of Kendal, and other medical gentlemen quickly attended and everything possible was done for them. ARTHUR CHEESEMAN who is a married man, with two children and JAMES SHEPHERD were reported in a most precarious condition, and at four o'clock in the afternoon there were no hopes whatever of their recovery. The other Cheeseman died early on Saturday morning. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News - 25-May-1883 Page 4 Death of a Centenarian There was buried at Natland, near Carnforth, on Thursday, JAMES CUNNINGHAM, who claimed to have been born on the 15th of August 1780, and was thus over 102 years old. His birth place was Killen, county Louth. In 1813 he was employed in the extension of the Lancaster canal into Westmorland, and had remained as a leading bankranger there ever since. He retained his mental faculties and a strong will to the last, but his eyesight failed two or three years ago. David Leverton

Hi Ken, I do not have a link with my Kirkby Thore Langhorns to Shap or CR Langhornes. Notice the spelling difference! I was told by Dean Langhorn that the extra "e" was to distinguish between the esteemed Langhornes of CR and the riffraff that is our family in Kirkby Thore!!!!! Regards, Gillian Selon Ken Thompson <kethomps@tpg.com.au>: > Hello Gillian > > Do you connect with Margaret Langhorne ch 1707 Shap or William Langhorn ch > 1672 at Crosby Ravensworth ? > > Regards > > Ken > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GG" <gillianmckenna@free.fr> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:54 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > > > > Hi, > > > > Mary Langhorn b1783 Kirkby Thore is the daughter of Lancelot Langhorn & > > Eleanor Laidley. Mary is the sister of Lancelot b1785. Lancelot is my ggg > > grandfather. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gillian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cath Wooff" <cath@wooff.co.uk> > > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:29 PM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > > > > > >> Hi David > >> They aren't names I've come across yet but with that surname in > >> Westmorland, > >> the probabilities are fairly high that there's a connection somewhere in > >> the > >> dim and distant. I'm descended from Nicholas WOOF and Sarah STAGG who > >> married 12 Mar 1770 in Lowther, through their son Joseph WOOF [b.c.1780 > >> Lowther] and Mary LANGHORN [b.c.1783 Kirkby Thore] who married 6 July > >> 1811 > >> at Kirkby Thore. > >> regards > >> Cath > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> > >> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:01 PM > >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > >> > >> > >>> Hi Cath, > >>> My wife has on her mother's side a Dorothy WOOF b abt 1833 Firbank, > >>> Westmoreland marrying a John ASKEW b 1824 in Stainton on 1 Jan 1853 in > >>> Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmoreland. Her father was a Thomas WOOFF who > >>> married > >>> Isabella HOGGARD. > >>> Is there any connection to your family. > >>> Regards, > >>> David Bossenger > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cath It's probably worth looking for an obituary for either Henry or Thomas the High Constables. If the position was held by the same family over a number of years, it would be the type of story that was likely to be reported. Regards John -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cath Wooff Sent: 16 November 2008 13:21 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thomas Holme [5th great grandfather ] - HighConstable of Westmorland West Ward or not? Hello All, I'm looking for some advice / help: My 5th great grandfather Thomas Holme was born circa 1760 in Westmorland. On 21 July 1793 he married Catherine Wilkinson at St Lawrence's, Crosby Ravensworth. At least 11 children then followed; Agnes (1793); Henry (1794); Mary (1796); John (1798); Thomas (1800); Jane (1802); Anthony (1804); Edmund (1806); Edmund (1807); Catherine (1808) and Sarah (1812). All baptised (and some buried) at St Lawrence's and all baptism entries list both Thomas and Catherine and give residence as Barnskew. Thomas also appears in 1841 census as farmer at Barnskew. Thomas died 27 Dec 1843 and is buried at St Lawrence's. Now the issue I have is I keep coming across a possible link to the High Constable of Westmorland West Ward. >From Roland Grigg's Parish Register transcripts I have a potential father and siblings of Thomas 1748 HOLME Henry s of Henry of Barnsceugh bapt1748Mar29 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1749 HOLME Jane d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1749Aug31 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1752 HOLME Mary d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1752Jan16 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1755 HOLME John s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1755Mar13 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1756 HOLME Edmund s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1756Nov10 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1759 HOLME Thos s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1759Mar8 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [Potentially my 5th great grandfather] 1760 HOLME Sarah d of Henry of Barnskew bapt1760Dec4 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1763 HOLME Anthony s of Henry of Barnskew bapt1763Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) 1798 HOLME Henry of Barnskew Householder age77 bur 1798Jan27 (Crosby Ravensworth PR) [This potentially could be Thomas' father, my 6th great grandfather and his birth would be circa 1721] >From British History Online I have: West Ward High Constables 1731-1756 Henry Holme, the elder 1756-1797 Henry Holme, the younger 1798-1844 Thomas Holme 1844-1856 Henry Holme The end of Henry Holme the younger's period as High Constable, ties in with the death date of Henry Holme of Barnskew in the PR transcripts of Jan 1798 The end of Thomas Holme's period as High Constable also seems to tie in with date of death of my Thomas. Then from Parson & White's History of Cumberland & Westmorland 1829 page 592 (as transcribed by Geoffrey Walton on the Cumberland mailing list in 2003) we have: p.592 WEST WARD [Westmor- REAGILL Douglas John, master of the Free School Gelderd John, weaver Holme Thomas, High Constable for the West Ward, Barnskew [Johnson Wm. blacksmith Smith Thomas, grocer The directory is from 1829 so this would correspond with my 5th great grandfather Thomas living at Barnskew. So my problem is at the moment this all seems coincidental. I don't have anything definite to tie my Thomas to Thomas son of Henry in the PR Transcripts to Thomas and Henry the High Constables or even that Thomas High Constable is my Thomas and not a cousin or unrelated Holme. It all centres on the one word "Barnskew"! Does anyone have any ideas on how I can prove or disprove this tenuous connection? I'm not concerned what the outcome is i.e. I'm not looking to make my Thomas the High Constable if he wasn't just don't know what information is available that could help in finding the reality. regards Cath ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1834 - Release Date: 06/12/2008 16:55

Hello Gillian Do you connect with Margaret Langhorne ch 1707 Shap or William Langhorn ch 1672 at Crosby Ravensworth ? Regards Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "GG" <gillianmckenna@free.fr> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > Hi, > > Mary Langhorn b1783 Kirkby Thore is the daughter of Lancelot Langhorn & > Eleanor Laidley. Mary is the sister of Lancelot b1785. Lancelot is my ggg > grandfather. > > Regards, > > Gillian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cath Wooff" <cath@wooff.co.uk> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF > > >> Hi David >> They aren't names I've come across yet but with that surname in >> Westmorland, >> the probabilities are fairly high that there's a connection somewhere in >> the >> dim and distant. I'm descended from Nicholas WOOF and Sarah STAGG who >> married 12 Mar 1770 in Lowther, through their son Joseph WOOF [b.c.1780 >> Lowther] and Mary LANGHORN [b.c.1783 Kirkby Thore] who married 6 July >> 1811 >> at Kirkby Thore. >> regards >> Cath >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> >> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 7:01 PM >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] WOOFF >> >> >>> Hi Cath, >>> My wife has on her mother's side a Dorothy WOOF b abt 1833 Firbank, >>> Westmoreland marrying a John ASKEW b 1824 in Stainton on 1 Jan 1853 in >>> Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmoreland. Her father was a Thomas WOOFF who >>> married >>> Isabella HOGGARD. >>> Is there any connection to your family. >>> Regards, >>> David Bossenger >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Anne: A few more Ellwoods Anne Ellwood m 1774 (Long Marton) Thomas Thornborrow Bridget Ellwood m 1729 ( Dufton) Robert Thornborrow Mary Ellwood m 1862 (Crosby Ravensworth ) Benjamin Stephenson Maria ( Mary) m 1695 ( Dufton) George Thornborrow ...............Keith

I don't think there would be any link but I have noted an Edward WILSON m. Mary Dod 22/11/1717 Grasmere.