4. Last Call- Crosby Ravensworth Sarah Reveley Hello all Westmorland listers, especially CR researchers and Sarah, Sorry for this late reply, I needed to look up 'where I was at' with my Crosby Ravensworth line. If it is too late no worries! I did go and stand outside the archives at Crosby in April but had come on a day they were closed, but got a flavour of the place anyway. My question regards my WILSONs: Stephen WILSON b. 30 Dec 1832 CR to a William WILSON 14 AUG 1808 Endmoor, Heversham WM died 1885 JUN East Ward farming at Scalegill, Orton (tho' it is over the motorway now) and Elizabeth Nicholson 16 Jan 1814 CR d. before 1871(I think), married 1827 21 Nov Appleby St Lawrence. I wondered if they could confirm that is this Elizabeth and whether I am right on her parents-Robert NICHOLSON (don't have birth) and Elizabeth PRICKET (1799 marriage record Burton in Kendal). Also I have lots of WILSONs after Stephen's birth but none before 1832 and since their marriage was 1827, this seems a bit odd. Are there any more children? Stephen's birth place was Reagill just on the outskirts of CR. I have found a picture of this in a very old inventory book of Westmorland architecture- sadly not mine. So far I have found 7 siblings for Stephen all younger than him. Any information to further the cause gratefully received! Regards, Sarah Parkin -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 December 2008 08:01 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 3, Issue 246 Today's Topics: 1. PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / DEATHS. (Barb Baker) 2. PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / HUNTING APPOINTMENTS. (Barb Baker) 3. PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / SEASONABLE BENEVOLENCE. (Barb Baker) 4. Last Call - Crosby Ravensworth (SarahReveley) 5. Surname List? (SarahReveley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:22:07 -0500 From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / DEATHS. To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>, "Genealogy-Cumberland" <Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP340C93C58CADBCD3DC09D9A0F60@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. DEATHS. BLEAYMIRE - At Penrith, on the 4th instant, DOROTHY, widow of the late THOMAS DOBSON BLEAYMIRE, Esq., in her 86th year. BELL - In Middlegate, Penrith, on the 2nd inst., MARY, wife of MR. LANCELOT BELL, plumber, aged 26 years. BARNS - At Grey Mouth, New Zealand, Oct. 6th, the result of an accident, MR. WM. TARLTON, son of ELIZABETH BARNS, of Braithwaite, near Keswick, aged 35 years. LANCASTER - At Hartsop, Patterdale, on the 4th inst., ANN, wife of JOSEPH LANCASTER, shoemaker, aged 77 years. JENNINGS - At Skirwith, on the 4th inst., MR. JOS. JENNINGS, aged 61 years, - much respected. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:26:27 -0500 From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / HUNTING APPOINTMENTS. To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>, "Genealogy-Cumberland" <Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP4411FD4BAEB360C4C01E81A0F60@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. HUNTING APPOINTMENTS. The Ullswater Fox Hounds will meet on Saturday, Jan. 10th, at Abbey Gate, for "The Divisions;" on Tuesday, the 12th, at Lazonby Fell; and on Thursday, the 15th, at Barron Wood, - at 10.30 a.m. The Greystoke Beagles will meet on Monday, the 12th Jan., at Thwaite Hall; and on Wednesday, the 14th, at Tymperon Hall, - each morning at 11 o'clock. The Askham Harriers will meet on Saturday, Jan. 10th at Heltondale; and on Wednesday, the 14th at Hackthorpe, - each morning at 10 o'clock. _______________________________ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:33:47 -0500 From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News, Saturday, January 10, 1874 / SEASONABLE BENEVOLENCE. To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>, "Genealogy-Cumberland" <Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3874DB188D1E98CF6AB9D5A0F60@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. SEASONABLE BENEVOLENCE. - The usual New Year benefactions were dispensed at Edenhall on New Year's day. Two four-year-old prime Highland bullocks, purchased in 1872, from MR. HUDSON of Whale, and fed on the home farm, weighing conjointly nearly 100 stones, slaughtered by WILLIAM WRIGHT, the family butcher and divided into suitable cuts, were distributed, under the supervision of MR. BOWSTEAD, among 74 families of Edenhall, Longwathby, and Penrith, in the presence of LADY MUSGRAVE Also 136 nice mince pies were distributed among the heads of each family, manufactured by MONS. L. MARIE, the French cook. We are requested by the vicar of Lazonby to announce the receipt by him of ?10 from SIR R. C. MUSGRAVE, for distributionn among the poor of Lazonby. The Vicar of Soulby, MR. BOWSTEAD, acknowledges receipt of ?5 from SIR R. C. MUSGRAVE, for distribution among the deserving poor of the parish. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:35:25 -0600 From: "SarahReveley" <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Last Call - Crosby Ravensworth To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <AAB17AB5AB424DFD92AD1E8200E80371@DellOpti> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Anybody else for Crosby Ravensworth? I'll wait a few more days. Audrey wondered if they have a database for people to make connections, good idea, I don't think so, they didn't mention it. However it would be a good idea to add your snail mail address and phone number if you want to, just send it to me and I will add it. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:45:29 -0600 From: "SarahReveley" <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Surname List? To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <FA4DD66674CC459F92EB0A1CAF8B9A68@DellOpti> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is there a Westmorland Surname List? Yes I know there are other surname lists out there, I mean a specific one for Westmorland. They are easy to put in Excel if everybody follows the same format when they post their names. One was started a few years ago on the Cumberland list, you can see it at http://dfnoble.com/CULnames/ . ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ENG-WESTMORLAND mailing list, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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> > Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 19 May 1882 Page 4 > > Death of Thomas Hewitson <SNIP>> > and from 2 week previous, 5-May-1882 page 4, again, Windermere Petty Sessions > > Tuesday before G.H. PUCKLE (chairman), A.H. HEYWOOD, Esq. and Dr. HAMILTON. > > THOMAS HEWITSON > Doing damage to a cottage in Queen's Yard the property of DINA RODEN. > Fined 10s plus 9s 6d costs. Hi everyone, My grateful thanks to David Leverton for his wonderful postings of info from the Ambleside and Lakes News. The Dinah RODEN, mentioned above, b 1828 in Kendal, is my 2X GGrandmother. She and her husband John ran the Queens Hotel in Windermere. They had 11 children. John died in 1874 leaving her to soldier on. Her brother Martin BROWN came from Kendal to assist in the running of the hotel. I had no idea of this troubling incident until I read David's posting just now. David, you're a hero! Kind regards and grateful thanks, Lorraine in Canada

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 19 May 1882 Page 4 Death of Thomas Hewitson Suicide In A Police Cell At Windermere THOMAS HEWITSON, who was sentenced to one month's imprisonment at the petty session on Tuesday for drunkenness, was found in the cell after the rising of the court with his throat cut from ear to ear severing the windpipe. Inquest held Wednesday before JOHN WILSON, deputy coroner for Westmorland, and the following jury: WILLIAM HARRISON (foreman), W. LEIGHTON, J. AIREY, E. DEASON, J. HARTLEY, T. SWAINSON, JOHNSON ROBINSON, W. CARTMELL, JAMES LONGMIRE, J.K. GIBSON, R. HEATON and J. MOORE. WM. HENDERSON KELLY, police constable, after sentencing at the police court he took deceased to a cell at 12 o'clock and didn't see him until SERGEANT WATSON came upstairs saying there was something serious. This would be half an hour later. He saw the body and identified it as THOMAS HEWITSON. He found a razor between the mattress and the bed partially open. There was a great deal of blood on the floor, and he thought he might have cut his throat whilst standing, and become weak, fell down on the bed. DR. HAMILTON was sent for, but declare him quite dead. Witness had known deceased - who had been drinking heavily lately - for some years. He appeared sober at court the previous day. MR. HARTLEY and MR. LEIGHTON here explained that deceased was in the habit of hiding his money in his shoes and supposed the razor must have been hidden in some such way. Deceased was 48 years of age, and was a shoemaker by trade. SERGEANT JOHN WATSON said he had no reason to believe deceased intended doing himself any bodily harm. Asked as to a rumour that HEWITSON declared on the platform at the railway station that he would not go to prison, he said that he afterwards heard of such a rumour and generally corroborated PC KELLY's evidence. JOSEPH CLARK, joiner, Windermere, said he was called to lay deceased out about 12:30 on Tuesday. He found some old bruises on his ankles, but nothing to cause death. He had a severe bruise on the right ankle. His throat was cut. Verdict - committed suicide during temporary insanity. The deceased had been drinking heavily since Christmas. His wife and daughter had to leave him in consequence of ill usage. and on the same page is the report of his appearance at the Windermere Petty Sessions Tuesday before G.H. PUCKLE (chairman), A.H. HEYWOOD, Esq. and Dr. HAMILTON. THOMAS HEWITSON Drunk and using abusive language on the 26th ult. Chairman said he was a regular nuisance and it was no use to fine him. One month hard labour in Kendal. After the court retired he was found in his cell with throat cut. and from 2 week previous, 5-May-1882 page 4, again, Windermere Petty Sessions Tuesday before G.H. PUCKLE (chairman), A.H. HEYWOOD, Esq. and Dr. HAMILTON. THOMAS HEWITSON Doing damage to a cottage in Queen's Yard the property of DINA RODEN. Fined 10s plus 9s 6d costs.

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 09 April 1881 Page 4 Death of Catherine Howard Suicide at Barrow On Monday morning, J. POOLE, Esq., held an inquest at Barrow on the body of CATHERINE HOWARD wife of DANIEL HOWARD age 38 years who whilst suffering from delirium tremens had gone on to the sands at Cocken Bridge, undressed and drowned herself, the body having been found on Saturday. A verdict of suicide whilst of unsound mind was returned, the Coroner remarking that that was the seventh consecutive suicide through drink over which he had held inquiry. He also said it was a peculiarity when a woman was found drowned she was face downwards, whilst men were mostly faced upwards.

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 16 May 1884 Page 4 Marriage and Death of Jane Harrison Awfully Sudden Death of a Bride at Preston On Saturday there was celebrated at St. Augustine's Church, Preston, a marriage between a soldier and a factory operative, which caused the neighbourhood to be somewhat more lively than usual. But in the afternoon the news that the young bride had suddenly expired spread with rapidity, and the people gradually found that the rumour was only too true. It seems that JANE HARRISON, the name of the young woman, had been married that morning to a soldier, who is held in high respect by the regiment to which he belongs, and to whom a clock had been presented on the occasion. After the ceremony had been concluded, the bride and her husband were tracing their steps to the railway station, when she became very ill, and it was deemed advisable that they should return to her parents house in Queen street. The course was adopted, and three medical gentlemen were called in, but the young woman had several fits, and, despite their assistance, she died in less than an hour. The husband was deeply affected, and the parents of the unfortunate young woman felt the shock very greatly.

Ambleside Herald & Lakes News 30 Nov 1883 Page 4 Death of Henry Hadwin Extraordinary Shooting Case at Penrith On Monday an inquiry was opened at the Police Court, Penrith, as to the death of HENRY HADWIN, aged 18 years, the son of a farmer who resides at Cauldale Beck, Patterdale. A few days ago it was reported that the deceased had died suddenly in Sandgate, Penrith, during the servant's hiring. He had dropped down in the street while watching a merry-go-round and was conveyed home and examined by DR. TAYLOR and other medical men, and it was certified that death had resulted from syncope from internal bleeding, and the deceased was interred in the Penrith cemetery, implicit faith being placed in the decision of the doctors. After the funeral, however, the aunt of the deceased, in brushing the deceased's clothes, found some blood stains upon them, and a small hole in the clothes corresponded with the stains. In consequence of rumours that began to be circulated around the town, to the effect that the deceased had been shot whilst some persons were shooting at glass bottles suspended from a "gallery" at the fair, the police were communicated with, and the Secretary of State being informed of the circumstances granted an order for the exhumation of Hadwin's body. The evidence given at the post mortem examination, which was adjourned, proved the truth of the rumours which had been in circulation. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Just on occasion. I ask Liz Telford to send one on.

Ok I'll mention this one to Liz and ask her to contact you. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Baker To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD and EastCumberlandandWestmorland News, Saturday, January 10,1874 / CUMBERLAND QUARTER SESSIONS. Just on occasion. I ask Liz Telford to send one on. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. NEWS ITEMS. APPLEBY - On Tuesday last, the volunteer bellringers of St. Lawrence, Appleby, held their annual Supper at the house of MISS HANSON, when about sixteen partook of the good things served up in excellent style by that lady, after which a pleasant evening was spent. THE WEEK OF PRAYER - For many years, at the instance of the Evangelical Alliance, the first week, trom Sunday to Sunday inclusive, has been set apart for special prayer in the various churches, and this year the invitation has been more generally observed than on any former occasion. In Penrith, in conjunction with the REV. G. C. HODGSON'S Chapel at Eamont Bridge, there have been united meetings in the various places of worship, which have been well attended. Similar meetings have also been held in several towns and villages in the district. KNOCK - The annual festival in connection with the Wesleyan Sunday School was held on New Year's Day. In the morning, the village was enlivened by the strains af the Dufton band lead by MR. DEIGHTON; and in the afternoon, the juvenile army engaged in a vigorous attack on the good things set before them free of charge. The public afterwards partook of an excellent tea, dispensed by the MISSES MOUNSEY, E. and M. FURNESS, FALDER, ROBSON, GREEN, ATKINSON, and PARKIN. A public meeting was then held, MR. JAMES I. FALDER presiding, when interesting and powerful addresses were delivered by MR. BAYLIFFE, Appleby, and MR. J. SLINGER, Warcop. The choir, lead by MESSRS. GEO. ROBINSON and J. CHAMBERS, and accompanied on the harmonium by MRS. ROBINSON, of Murton, sung some choice hymns and anthems. SHAP: VESTRY MEETING. - A meeting of the rate payers of this parish was held on the 1st inst., for the purpose of considering the claim made by the West Ward Union Board of Guardians to the ownership to the two cottages belonging to the parish. Considering that the evening was wet and stormy, there was a good attendance. The utmost unanmity prevailed, and it was the fixed determination of the ratepayers present not to give up, without a struggle, the possesion of the property, which has been owned by the parish from time immemorial. After the subject had been fully discussed, the following resolutions on the motion of MR. JOHN HALL, were agreed to without a dissentient: "That it is the opinion of this meeting that the claims of the West Ward Union Board of Guardians to the two cottages belonging to this parish are without foundation, and that a comittee be formed to defend any attempt that may be made by the said Board to deprive the parish of the said cottages, which, have been held by the vicar and churchwardens as trustees thereof." "It was further resolved that the following ratepayers do constitute the committee: the REV. S. WHITESIDE, MESSRS. J. IRVING, J. HALL, T. BIRKBECK, sen., H. HALL, G. TEASDALE, D. FAIRER, M. LOWIS, J. STEADMAN, and W. HUDSON." _________________________________________________________________________________ *I don't believe I have seen so many spelling errors in such a few articles*

No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. CUMBERLAND. The Quarter Sessions for Cumberland were held on Tuesday and Wednesday. W. N. HODGSON, Esq., presided. The calendar contained the names of fifteen prisoners, concerned in thirteen offences. The following is the only case possessing any interest in our district. A WOULD-BE SUICIDE. HENRY JAMESON, 37, miner (imperfectly instructed), was indicted for having attempted to commit suicide, by hanging himself with a rope, at Penrith, on the 27th December, 1873. MR. BALDWIN appeared for the prosecution, and MR. THURLOW for the defence. MR. BALDWIN, in stating the facts to the jury, said this was a case of a rather peculiar nature, and one of a kind which was not very often before juries at Quarter Sessions. The law presumed that every man's life was of benefit to the community, and did not allow anyone to wilfully throw away his own life. The prisoner was a pitman, and worked near Barnard Castle. On the 27th Dec., he visited Penrith to attend his half-brothers funeral. After the funeral he seemed to have indulged very freely in drink. In the course of the evening Police-Constable SCOTT was called to a yard in Burrowgate, Penrith, where he found the prisoner hanging by the neck, his feet off the ground, and a clothes rope round his heck. At that time the prisoner was to all appearances insensible. The Constable passed his arm round the prisoner's neck, and finding no knot, at once cut the rope, and instantly the man fell forward on his face. P. C. SCOTT was called and proved the facts stated by MR. BALDWIN. MR. THURLOW addressed the jury on behalf of the prisoner, who, he said, was a man who had served his country in the Crimea, where he received a couple of sun strokes which had rendered him at times very excitable. He had also served his country in China. Up to the time of his arrest he had worked as a miner, and he contended that prisoner, who was very drunk, had got entangled in the rope while going about in the dark, and would, undoubtedly, have hung until he died if he had not been cut down. There was, he submitted, no intention to commit suicide. The Chairman summed up, and the jury returned a verdict of Guilty, with a recommendation to mercy. The prisoner was discharged upon his own recognisances of £20 to keep the peace for twelve months. THE COUNTY BUSINESS. The Court proceeded to the consideration of the County Business on Wednesday. The several reports were read and were of the usual formal character. With reference to Eamont Bridge, the CLERK of the PEACE read the letter adopted at the meeting of the Penrith Board of Health on the 13th December, calling the attention of the court to the dangerous state of Eamont Bridge, where accidents were constantly occuring, owlng to the faulty construction of the viaduct, and asking the court once more to take the subject into consideration. The COUNTY SURVEYOR said he had laid before the court on a previous occasion, a plan for altering the bridge, and this court had approved of it, but when it was laid before the Westmorland Sessions, the magistrates objected and so the matter stood. MR. PARKIN said the reason why the Wesmorland magistrates had refused, was that they would not bear any part of the expense, unless the county of Cumberland improved the approaches on the Cumberland side. The CHAIRMAN said that it would involve a serious expense, which he did not think this county could at present undertake. He suggested that the best course would be for the Penrith Board of Health to place themselves in communicetion with the Westmorland magistrates upon the subject. _________________________________________________________________________________ *This is the end of the Cumberland Quarter Sessions* *More spelling errors in this article, too. Someone must have had a bad day* B.

Barb are you forwarding the Cumberland ones to the Cumberland List as well as the Googlies? ----- Original Message ----- From: Barb Baker To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com ; Genealogy-Cumberland Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:56 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland andWestmorland News, Saturday, January 10,1874 / CUMBERLAND QUARTER SESSIONS. No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. CUMBERLAND. The Quarter Sessions for Cumberland were held on Tuesday and Wednesday. W. N. HODGSON, Esq., presided. The calendar contained the names of fifteen prisoners, concerned in thirteen offences. The following is the only case possessing any interest in our district. A WOULD-BE SUICIDE. HENRY JAMESON, 37, miner (imperfectly instructed), was indicted for having attempted to commit suicide, by hanging himself with a rope, at Penrith, on the 27th December, 1873. MR. BALDWIN appeared for the prosecution, and MR. THURLOW for the defence. MR. BALDWIN, in stating the facts to the jury, said this was a case of a rather peculiar nature, and one of a kind which was not very often before juries at Quarter Sessions. The law presumed that every man's life was of benefit to the community, and did not allow anyone to wilfully throw away his own life. The prisoner was a pitman, and worked near Barnard Castle. On the 27th Dec., he visited Penrith to attend his half-brothers funeral. After the funeral he seemed to have indulged very freely in drink. In the course of the evening Police-Constable SCOTT was called to a yard in Burrowgate, Penrith, where he found the prisoner hanging by the neck, his feet off the ground, and a clothes rope round his heck. At that time the prisoner was to all appearances insensible. The Constable passed his arm round the prisoner's neck, and finding no knot, at once cut the rope, and instantly the man fell forward on his face. P. C. SCOTT was called and proved the facts stated by MR. BALDWIN. MR. THURLOW addressed the jury on behalf of the prisoner, who, he said, was a man who had served his country in the Crimea, where he received a couple of sun strokes which had rendered him at times very excitable. He had also served his country in China. Up to the time of his arrest he had worked as a miner, and he contended that prisoner, who was very drunk, had got entangled in the rope while going about in the dark, and would, undoubtedly, have hung until he died if he had not been cut down. There was, he submitted, no intention to commit suicide. The Chairman summed up, and the jury returned a verdict of Guilty, with a recommendation to mercy. The prisoner was discharged upon his own recognisances of £20 to keep the peace for twelve months. THE COUNTY BUSINESS. The Court proceeded to the consideration of the County Business on Wednesday. The several reports were read and were of the usual formal character. With reference to Eamont Bridge, the CLERK of the PEACE read the letter adopted at the meeting of the Penrith Board of Health on the 13th December, calling the attention of the court to the dangerous state of Eamont Bridge, where accidents were constantly occuring, owlng to the faulty construction of the viaduct, and asking the court once more to take the subject into consideration. The COUNTY SURVEYOR said he had laid before the court on a previous occasion, a plan for altering the bridge, and this court had approved of it, but when it was laid before the Westmorland Sessions, the magistrates objected and so the matter stood. MR. PARKIN said the reason why the Wesmorland magistrates had refused, was that they would not bear any part of the expense, unless the county of Cumberland improved the approaches on the Cumberland side. The CHAIRMAN said that it would involve a serious expense, which he did not think this county could at present undertake. He suggested that the best course would be for the Penrith Board of Health to place themselves in communicetion with the Westmorland magistrates upon the subject. _________________________________________________________________________________ *This is the end of the Cumberland Quarter Sessions* *More spelling errors in this article, too. Someone must have had a bad day* B. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Sarah, Great offer - thank you. I guess there aren't any Adamthwaites listed,but worth a try if not too much trouble. Regards Eliz

I stand corrected! You can register your surname at http://www.northofthesands.org.uk/westmoreland/surnames.html but I think only if you have an ancestor listed in Westmorland Church Notes. You have to register, be sure and use a password with SEVEN not SIX characters or the password goblin gets you. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kissel To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Surname List? Here is another site: http://www.northofthesands.org.uk/westmoreland/surnames.html Bob

No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. TRIAL OF PRISONERS. Yesterday, before F. A. ARGLES, Esq., and WM. HOPES, Esq., six prisoners implicated in four offences were tried. After the usual preliminaries, the Chairman briefly addressed the grand jury, of which MR. McCRAKEN, of Bewley Castle, was the foreman. The cases were all from the Kendal side. ANN CASSADY, an Irishwoman, was charged with stealing ten pounds, the moneys of NANCY JOHNSON, at Burton, on the 28th Dec. Found guilty, and sentenced to four months imprisonment with hard labour. PATRICK KENNY, labourer, was charged with stealing a purse and five shillings from MATILDA HOLMES, at Underbarrow, on the 4th Dec. The HON. A. D. ELLIOT prosecuted. Found guilty, and sentenced to twelve months' hard labour. JOHN THOMPSON and WILLIAM DIXON, labourers, were charged with stealing an overcoat from the shop of MR. WATSON, draper, Kendal, on the 27th Dec. MR. DAWSON prosecuted. Both prisoners were found guilty. DIXON, against whom several previous convictions were put in, was sentenced to 7 years' penal servitude, and 7 years police supervision, and THOMPSON to four months' hard labour. MICHAEL CASSADY and JOHN JACKSON were charged with stealing a pair of boots of the value of eight shillings, the property of EDWARD STONE, at Milnthorpe, on the 29th Nov. CASSADY, who pleaded guilty, was sentenced to four months' imprisonment. JACKSON was acquitted. ________________________________________________________________ *This ends the Westmorland Quarter Sessions*

No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. POLICE In the Report of the Police Committee it was recommended, provided it could be legally done, that an additional Constable be stationed at Troutbeck, the Fishery Conservators having agreed to pay the winter six months' cost, provided the County paid the other six, during which time an additional constable was absolutely necessary in consequence of the great influx of excursionist passengers. The Committee also submitted to the Court the propriety of strongly representing to the railway companies the great amount of cost entailed on the county by the drunkenness of the excursionist, and the fairness of their contributing to the expense of otherwise preventing the nuisance. MR. BALME said that in summer they were invaded by thousands of barbarians in a state of drunkenness. If the railway companies would carry out their own bye-laws, and not take drunken passengers, the difficulty would be overcome. MR. DUNNE (Chief Constable) said that these drunken men should be left behind, and if they had to pay an additional fare to get home again, it would be a caution to them. The legality of such an appointment as the report suggested to a Committee, and the Chairman was requested to represent to the London and North Western and Furness Railway Companies the importance of carrying out their bye-laws relating to drunken passengers. LUNACY. The report of the Lunacy Committee stated that there were 172 male and 136 female patients for Cumberland; 37 and 39 respectively for Westmorland; and of private patients, 17 of each sex. The mortality had been low. THE GAOL OFFICERS. The visiting Justices reported that the services of MR. RIDGE, the governor of the gaol, who was only appointed from sessions to sessions, would now terminate. In the case of MR. A. H. RIDGE, it seemed reasonable that he should receive his salary for the ensuing quarter; and it was also recommended that MRS. RIDGE should be allowed to remain in the governor's house during the alterations in the gaol. The attendance too of the surgeon would not be necessary. The report and recommendations were adopted, and MR. HOPES said that MR. BIDGE had fulfilled the duties of governor in a very satisfactory manner since his father's death, and it would be open to him as to anyone else to apply. Twelve months would pass over before the office would have to be filled, and in the meantime he would gain both age and experience. MISCELLANEOUS. MR. DUNNE handed an application from MR. EDWARD HEELIS, as representing SIR HENRY TUFTON, the high-sheriff elect for the ensuing year, requesting that the police should be allowed to act as javelin men. MR. DUNNE said that this was the practice in many places. The high sheriff would pay the expenses. He would draw men from Kirkby Stephen, Orton, and the adjoining district. -- Agreed to. CAPTAIN BRAITHWAITE-WILSON said that he did not think due deference was paid to their Chairman of Quarter Sessions during the trial of prisoners, and he therefore gave notice of motion that all questions should be submitted through the chairman and handed up in writing. to be continued...................... ________________________________________________________________

No. 434. Second Week in Quarter. Registered for Transmission Abroad. Price One Penny. WESTMORLAND QUARTER SESSIONS. The Epiphany Sessions for the County of Westmorland were held on Thursday last, when the following magistrates were present:- F. A. ARGLES, Esq., (chairman) REV. DR. SIMPSON REV. T. BELLAS REV. G. F. WESTON REV. W. R. MARKHAM WM. HOPES, Esq. JAS. ATKINSON, Esq. CAPTAIN MARKHAM F. PARKER, Esq. W. H. PARKIN, Esq. W. H. WAKEFIELD, Esq. W. WAKEFIELD, Esq. CAPTAIN GRIMSHAW F. COWPER, Esq. CAPTAIN BRAITHWAITE-WILSON E. B. W. BALME, Esq. A. H. HEYWOOD, Esq. A. D. KEIGHTLEY, Esq. THE GAOLS ALTERATIONS. The Gaol Committee reported that the contracts in relation to Appleby Gaol had been signed ky the several contractors, and recommended that they be now signed by the Clerk of the Peace on behalf of the Prison Authority. The estimates, &c., amount to about £5,500, and application should be made to the Loan Commissioners for power to borrow that sum. In the case of Kendal Gaol, a similar sum was needed. A letter was laid before the Bench in which the Home Secretary recommended a loan of £6,000, and it was understood that as a matter of course, the Loan Commissioners would grant the necessary powers. The report was then adopted and confirmed. FINANCE. The Treasurer's statement of accounts was read and a recommendation of the Finance Committee adopted that rates of 1/2 d. in the pound should be levied for police and county purposes respectively. CONNTY SURVEYOR REPORTS. - THE BRIDGE AT EAMONT. The Surveyor reported that the bridges generally were in a fair state of repair. With regard to the bridge over the Eamont, a communication was read from the Penrith Local Board of Health representing that this bridge was very dangerous to the public, and that accidents of a serious nature were taking place from time to time, several having occurred within the last few months, owing to its being impossible for the driver of a conveyance on one side of the bridge to see a conveyance coming up the other side, and thus the two met on the top of the bridge where it was impossible for two conveyances to pass. All that was required was to widen the bridge in the manner recommended by the Surveyor for the two counties. MR. W. H. WAKEFIELD testified to the correctness of the representation made, having recently inspected the place. DR. SIMPSON, whilst admitting the danger, said the question was where the real responsibility rested, and in what proportion Cumberland and Westmorland should bear the cost of altering the bridge. The danger was not so much from the narrowness of the bridge, but from the extremely steep ascent on the Cumberland side. If this were improved, the narrowness of the bridge was not so great an object. The fault was on the Cumberland side, and they were bound to remedy it. The county might widen a bridge, but it was not compelled to do so. If there had been no bridge, the people themselves would have to put one up, and then the County would have adopted it and kept it in repair. He thought it would be best to have a trustworthy survey, and a report of what would be best to be done. There was another course open to them, which he might suggest, and that was taking of the crown of the bridge, and putting a level iron bridge across. The REV. W. R. MARKHAM said it would look very ugly. MR. ATKINSON and MR. W. H. PARKIN contended that no alterations could be made to meet the case without widening, and that the fault was almost as much on the Westmorland as the Cumberland side. After considerable discussion, it was resolved that a Committee of magistrates should be appointed to confer with the magistrates of Cumberland, and report thereon at the next Quarter Sessions, and that they be empowered to call in the assistance of the County Surveyor, or other competent architect. The following gentlemen form the Committee: DR. SIMPSON, MR. WHITWELL, MR. PARKER, MR. PARKIN, MR. W. H. WAKEFIELD, and CAPTAIN MARKHAM. to be continued....................... ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *there are a couple of spelling errors in this article; I have transcribed it as it was printed*

Re: JACKSON Heather Law heatherlaw@freeuk.com John Jackson born approx 1782, died 6. July 1844 Haverbrack, Sandside and buried Beetham. Where was he born? Was it Crosby Ravensworth? ----- Original Message ----- From: "SarahReveley" <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Need more detail - Crosby Ravensworth >>>I know it's a nightare of a name in those parts but, JACKSON too >>>please.<< >>>I guess there aren't any Adamthwaites listed,but worth a try if not too >>>much trouble.<< > > Please follow the format, I don't want to put these folks to a lot of > unneccessary work. > > Please include your name and email address so they can email you back, > then > you can get into more detail with them. > > Example: > > Sarah Reveley > > sarahreveley@grandecom.net > Reveley family > Late 1700s to mid 1800s > Thomas Reveley was the church Vicar > Brick Wall - Where is Thomas' son George Williamson Reveley buried? > George died May 22, 1865. > > His wife Charlotte died December 15, 1864. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2309 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

I know it's a nightare of a name in those parts but, JACKSON too please. Thanks very much, Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "SarahReveley" <sarahreveley@grandecom.net> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Last Call - Crosby Ravensworth > Anybody else for Crosby Ravensworth? I'll wait a few more days. > > Audrey wondered if they have a database for people to make connections, > good idea, I don't think so, they didn't mention it. However it would be a > good idea to add your snail mail address and phone number if you want to, > just send it to me and I will add it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2308 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Thanks but that's all the dead ones listed in Westmorland Church Notes. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Kissel To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Surname List? Here is another site: http://www.northofthesands.org.uk/westmoreland/surnames.html Bob

>>I know it's a nightare of a name in those parts but, JACKSON too please.<< >>I guess there aren't any Adamthwaites listed,but worth a try if not too much trouble.<< Please follow the format, I don't want to put these folks to a lot of unneccessary work. Please include your name and email address so they can email you back, then you can get into more detail with them. Example: Sarah Reveley sarahreveley@grandecom.net Reveley family Late 1700s to mid 1800s Thomas Reveley was the church Vicar Brick Wall - Where is Thomas' son George Williamson Reveley buried? George died May 22, 1865. His wife Charlotte died December 15, 1864.