Dear Listers, Thanks to all who replied to my query re Robert. It was pointed out that Martha Thompson had a son Robert baptised at Kirkby Stephen on 9th Jan. 1842. I checked deaths and found 2 Marthas, one Sept qt. Kendal in 1844, and one in W. Ward in Dec.qt. 1849. If either are Robert's mother that might explain why Robert was with his uncle in 1851. Could anyone check where Martha, born 1820 at Bampton was in 1841 and if possible if there is any sign of her in 1851. Best wishes and thanks, Mary

I sent this email earlier but it does not appear to have been received by the list. Mary You mention that Robert's birth does not appear to have been registered but I am not sure which Robert you are referring to. Robert born c.1842 Bampton, Westmorland. Bampton is in the West Ward registration district and there is a birth entry in Q4 1841 in West Ward for Robert Thompson Vol xxv Page 453. Robert born 1876 - according to the 1881 Census Robert was living with his family in Haltwhistle, Northumberland. There is a birth entry in Q3 1876 at Haltwhistle for Robert under Vol 10b Page 327. Regards, Christopher Darvill Researching Patterdale

Dear Shawn, Brilliant. This sounds likely as it ties him in to Jospeh. Best wishes, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn" <shawn-shaw@talktalk.net> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton > Again IGI > Source Information: > Film Number: 447986 > Page Number: 0184 > Reference number: 88722 > > Robert Thompson christening 9 Jan 1842 Kirkby Stephen > mother Martha Thompson > > the entry for Martha of Kirkby Stephen > (Source Information: > Film Number: 447986 > Page Number: 0183 > Reference number: 88757) is a guesstimate probably having no foundation. > > There is a Martha of Bampton 1820 > > Regards > > Shawn > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher > Darvill > Sent: 03 January 2009 11:09 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton > > Mary > > On checking the IGI, Joseph may be the son of Agnes Thompson baptised at > Bampton 12/04/1817. > > > Regards, > > Christopher Darvill > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary > Sent: 02 January 2009 23:28 > To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton > > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to help a friend find out about their ancestor Robert > Thompson, > born c. 1842 in Bampton, Westmorland. He first appears on the 1951 census > at > Hartsop, Patterdale living in the family of his uncle Joseph Thompson, > also > born Bampton, aged 33 and a tailor. Joseph's wife is Elizabeth > (Brunskill), > and children Wilson, Agnes . Then there is Robert aged 9 years, nephew. > > Robert married Mary Nixon in 1866, when he was a husbandman at > Kirkstonefoot. No information is given about his parents, although details > of Mary's are given. Likewise when Joseph married Elizabeth in 1846, no > parental details were given. > > It is believed that Jospeh was born in 1817, the illegitimate son of Agnes > Thompson. There appears to have been a sister Martha born in 1820, also > illegitimate. Could she be Robert's mother? > > Robert and Mary's children were Thomas, born 1867, Isabella born 1869, > Mary > Elizabeth 1871, Ann 1874, and Robert 1876. > > Robert Thompson's birth does not appear to have been registered. > > Is anyone else researching this family and can anyone offer any > suggestions > re Robert's parentage? > > Best wishes, > > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: > 31/12/2008 > 08:44 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Again IGI Source Information: Film Number: 447986 Page Number: 0184 Reference number: 88722 Robert Thompson christening 9 Jan 1842 Kirkby Stephen mother Martha Thompson the entry for Martha of Kirkby Stephen (Source Information: Film Number: 447986 Page Number: 0183 Reference number: 88757) is a guesstimate probably having no foundation. There is a Martha of Bampton 1820 Regards Shawn -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Darvill Sent: 03 January 2009 11:09 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton Mary On checking the IGI, Joseph may be the son of Agnes Thompson baptised at Bampton 12/04/1817. Regards, Christopher Darvill -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: 02 January 2009 23:28 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton Dear Listers, I am trying to help a friend find out about their ancestor Robert Thompson, born c. 1842 in Bampton, Westmorland. He first appears on the 1951 census at Hartsop, Patterdale living in the family of his uncle Joseph Thompson, also born Bampton, aged 33 and a tailor. Joseph's wife is Elizabeth (Brunskill), and children Wilson, Agnes . Then there is Robert aged 9 years, nephew. Robert married Mary Nixon in 1866, when he was a husbandman at Kirkstonefoot. No information is given about his parents, although details of Mary's are given. Likewise when Joseph married Elizabeth in 1846, no parental details were given. It is believed that Jospeh was born in 1817, the illegitimate son of Agnes Thompson. There appears to have been a sister Martha born in 1820, also illegitimate. Could she be Robert's mother? Robert and Mary's children were Thomas, born 1867, Isabella born 1869, Mary Elizabeth 1871, Ann 1874, and Robert 1876. Robert Thompson's birth does not appear to have been registered. Is anyone else researching this family and can anyone offer any suggestions re Robert's parentage? Best wishes, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 31/12/2008 08:44

Mary On checking the IGI, Joseph may be the son of Agnes Thompson baptised at Bampton 12/04/1817. Regards, Christopher Darvill -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: 02 January 2009 23:28 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton Dear Listers, I am trying to help a friend find out about their ancestor Robert Thompson, born c. 1842 in Bampton, Westmorland. He first appears on the 1951 census at Hartsop, Patterdale living in the family of his uncle Joseph Thompson, also born Bampton, aged 33 and a tailor. Joseph's wife is Elizabeth (Brunskill), and children Wilson, Agnes . Then there is Robert aged 9 years, nephew. Robert married Mary Nixon in 1866, when he was a husbandman at Kirkstonefoot. No information is given about his parents, although details of Mary's are given. Likewise when Joseph married Elizabeth in 1846, no parental details were given. It is believed that Jospeh was born in 1817, the illegitimate son of Agnes Thompson. There appears to have been a sister Martha born in 1820, also illegitimate. Could she be Robert's mother? Robert and Mary's children were Thomas, born 1867, Isabella born 1869, Mary Elizabeth 1871, Ann 1874, and Robert 1876. Robert Thompson's birth does not appear to have been registered. Is anyone else researching this family and can anyone offer any suggestions re Robert's parentage? Best wishes, Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary You mention that Robert's birth does not appear to have been registered but I am not sure which Robert you are referring to. Robert born c.1842 Bampton, Westmorland. Bampton is in the West Ward registration district and there is a birth entry in Q4 1841 in West Ward for Robert Thompson Vol xxv Page 453. Robert born 1876 - according to the 1881 Census Robert was living with his family in Haltwhistle, Northumberland. There is a birth entry in Q3 1876 at Haltwhistle for Robert under Vol 10b Page 327. Regards, Christopher Darvill Researching Patterdale

I have Thompsons from Soulby Kirkby Stephen area Regards Paul Thompson Leicester. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary" <marynewbery@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:28 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Robert Thompson, 1842, Bampton > Dear Listers, > > I am trying to help a friend find out about their ancestor Robert > Thompson, born c. 1842 in Bampton, Westmorland. He first appears on the > 1951 census at Hartsop, Patterdale living in the family of his uncle > Joseph Thompson, also born Bampton, aged 33 and a tailor. Joseph's wife is > Elizabeth (Brunskill), and children Wilson, Agnes . Then there is Robert > aged 9 years, nephew. > > Robert married Mary Nixon in 1866, when he was a husbandman at > Kirkstonefoot. No information is given about his parents, although details > of Mary's are given. Likewise when Joseph married Elizabeth in 1846, no > parental details were given. > > It is believed that Jospeh was born in 1817, the illegitimate son of Agnes > Thompson. There appears to have been a sister Martha born in 1820, also > illegitimate. Could she be Robert's mother? > > Robert and Mary's children were Thomas, born 1867, Isabella born 1869, > Mary Elizabeth 1871, Ann 1874, and Robert 1876. > > Robert Thompson's birth does not appear to have been registered. > > Is anyone else researching this family and can anyone offer any > suggestions re Robert's parentage? > > Best wishes, > > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1872 - Release Date: 02/01/2009 13:10

Dear Listers, I am trying to help a friend find out about their ancestor Robert Thompson, born c. 1842 in Bampton, Westmorland. He first appears on the 1951 census at Hartsop, Patterdale living in the family of his uncle Joseph Thompson, also born Bampton, aged 33 and a tailor. Joseph's wife is Elizabeth (Brunskill), and children Wilson, Agnes . Then there is Robert aged 9 years, nephew. Robert married Mary Nixon in 1866, when he was a husbandman at Kirkstonefoot. No information is given about his parents, although details of Mary's are given. Likewise when Joseph married Elizabeth in 1846, no parental details were given. It is believed that Jospeh was born in 1817, the illegitimate son of Agnes Thompson. There appears to have been a sister Martha born in 1820, also illegitimate. Could she be Robert's mother? Robert and Mary's children were Thomas, born 1867, Isabella born 1869, Mary Elizabeth 1871, Ann 1874, and Robert 1876. Robert Thompson's birth does not appear to have been registered. Is anyone else researching this family and can anyone offer any suggestions re Robert's parentage? Best wishes, Mary

Will do in a short while! Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Hughlock Sent: 01 January 2009 23:16 To: Westmorland Mailing List Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Fw: HELP with LOOK-UP Hello All, Message for Jane Taylor please. Jane many thanks for sending some scans directly from Ancestry.com. Sadly I am unable to download them: my computer and virus checker will not accept the blogs they try to load into the computer in order to recognise it. Could you send them a new way. Save them to your hard drive and then send them separately and they will recognise your a-mail as an accepted site. Hope this makes sense. Many thanks Bronwen and David ----- Original Message ----- From: David Hughlock To: Westmorland Mailing List Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: HELP with LOOK-UP Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1871 - Release Date: 1/1/2009 5:01 PM

Hello All, Message for Jane Taylor please. Jane many thanks for sending some scans directly from Ancestry.com. Sadly I am unable to download them: my computer and virus checker will not accept the blogs they try to load into the computer in order to recognise it. Could you send them a new way. Save them to your hard drive and then send them separately and they will recognise your a-mail as an accepted site. Hope this makes sense. Many thanks Bronwen and David ----- Original Message ----- From: David Hughlock To: Westmorland Mailing List Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 1:58 PM Subject: HELP with LOOK-UP Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David

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RAILWAY ACCIDENT. ALARMING COLLISION. A somewhat alarming collision occurred on Saturday forenoon, about twenty minutes past eleven o'clock, near Shap Station, of the Lancaster and Carlisle section of the London and North-Western Railway. The passenger train which leaves Preston for Carlisle at 8.5 a.m., was approaching the station at Shap, where it stops for a short time, and the signal being off, or there being an inability to turn it on, through the heavy fall of snow, the train driver "ran in", gradually reducing his speed in the usual way. On getting nearer, it was suddenly observed that there was a goods train standing ahead on the same line. An effort was made to stop the engine, but this was impossible; the stoker jumped off, but the driver, a Preston man, remained on, and directly afterwards a collision took place. The engine was thrown off the metals. Three or four of the waggons of the goods train were turned over, and there was a scene of considerable confusion and destruction. Fortunately, the passengers were more frightened than hurt. MR. SWAINSON, of Kendal, who was travelling to Shap, appeared to be most shaken or bruised, but he was able to leave the station in a conveyance. The stoker, who jumped off the engine, also escaped with slight injury, and the driver was unhurt. The road was not cleared for two hours.

Found on FreeBMD Thomas Hulock death Mar 1876 8c 241 Hope this helps. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Hughlock Sent: 01 January 2009 13:58 To: Westmorland Mailing List Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] HELP with LOOK-UP Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008 8:44 AM

Hi there found image for 1871. Sent separately. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Hughlock Sent: 01 January 2009 13:58 To: Westmorland Mailing List Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] HELP with LOOK-UP Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008 8:44 AM

Hi there happy new year. Think I've found your in 1891. Let me know one way or the other and I'll have another look. Sent the image separately. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Hughlock Sent: 01 January 2009 13:58 To: Westmorland Mailing List Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] HELP with LOOK-UP Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1870 - Release Date: 12/31/2008 8:44 AM

Hello Listers, May we, that is my wife and I, wish you all a Very Happy New Year and success with your searching. We have a difficulty which someone will be able to help us with. A new pair of eyes and new thoughts as to the spelling of the surname. It could range from ULLOCK to HULLOCK or even YOULOCK. Could we ask for a look up please? Could someone find this family in 1871 and 1891 and send the scans or any findings offline. 1 - In 1861 Thomas Hulock aged 33 (1828) born Lostock a Cotton spinner married to Jane (nee Charnock) aged 38 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a housewife, Edward aged 8 (1853) born Preston a scholar, Sarah aged 6 (1855) born Preston a scholar, and Mother-in-law Mary Charnock aged 74 (1787) born Preston all live at 25 Brookfield Street Preston see RG9, 3136, folio 70-71. 2 - In 1871 ? 3 - In 1881 Jane (nee Charnock) Hulock aged 58 (1823) born Bolton Lancashire a Retired Cotton Piecer and daughter Sarah Hulock aged 25 (1856) born Preston Lancashire a Cotton Weaver they live at 20 Fitton Houses, Great Bolton, Lancashire see RG11, 3840, 8, 10, 1341918. 4 - In 1891 ? Many thanks for any help that you may offer Kind regards Bronwen and David

PETTY SESSIONS. HACKTHORPE - MONDAY, JAN. 5. (Before the REV. W. MARKHAM, and CAP. MARKHAM.) ASSAULT. - HANNAH THWAITES, of Shap, preferred a charge of assault against GEORGE PARKS, of Kings Meaburn. MR. J. P. SHEPHERD appeared for defendant. - Complainant stated that about one o'clock on the 1st of December, defendant called at her house and asked for his topcoat. He had previously been lodging with her; and she declined to let him have it unless he paid £1 and upwards, which he owed for board and lodging. She locked the door to prevent him leaving the house with his box, and he then knocked her down. She ran upstairs, and a neighbour named ANN WILSON brought a ladder and she descended to the street by the backroom window. She went for assistance, and when she got back to the house she found the defendant had picked the lock and decamped with the box. In cross-examination, complainant said that defendant married her husband's sister. His name was RICHARD THWAITES, and at the time of the assault he was in the house, but she had not called him as a witness. She denied that she had tripped herself up with the carpet. For the defence THWAITES was called, and said he did not see defendant knock complainant down; but on the contrary he opened the door for her to pass. He then slipped back the bolt of the front door and went away with his box. After a protracted hearing, the Bench dismissed the case. ==========================================

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. KIRKBYTHORE SCHOOL BOARD. - At a meeting of this Board held on Thursday evening, Jan. 8th, a series of communications with the Education Department on the question of a site for the new school, were read, the latest of which we transcribe below: - "Education Department, Whitehall, London, S.W., Jan. 2nd, 1874. Sir, - I have the honour to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 22nd ultimo. I am directed to state in reply that unless more conclusive arguments can be submitted to them as to the need for putting in force the powers Section 20 of the Elementary Education Act of 1870, for the compulsory purchase of the site proposed by your Board, my Lords would not be prepared to entertain an application for this purpose under Sub-section 5 of the above-named section of the Act. In the opinion of H.M.'s Inspector, the site, which can at once be obtained by voluntary agreement, is quite suitable for the district, and my Lords think that no further delay should take place in providing the required school accommodation. - I have the honour to be, sir, your obedient servant, "To the Clerk to the School Board, Kirkbythore," P. CUMIN. __________________________________________ NOBLE GIFT TO CUMBERLAND INFIRMARY. - The DEAN OF CARLISLE has received the following letter from MR. GEORGE MOORE: - "My dear MR. DEAN, - I have just read the account of the meeting at the Infirmary, and I perceive you are short of available funds to pay for recent buildings. To partly help you out of the difficulty, I enclose you a cheque for One Thousand Pounds. ___________________________________________ MAN SHOT AT EAMONT BRIDGE. - On Monday afternoon, a serious accident happened on the road between Eamont Bridge and Skirsgill. As THOMAS HEBSON, a young man residing at Penrith, and in the employment of MR. JOS. TREMBLE, nurseryman, was proceeding to his work at Skirsgill grounds, he was accidently shot in the leg and lower part of his body by JOSEPH ROBINSON, landlord of the Welcome Into Cumberland Inn, Eamont Bridge, who was in pursuit of game on the land of MR. BLAICKLOCK. HEBSON was removed to Eamont Bridge, where he was attended by a doctor. His leg is very much shattered; but it is hoped no serious result will ensue. ___________________________________________

TESTIMONIAL TO MR. JOHN SLINGER, OF WARCOP. On Friday evening, the 2nd inst., a large and influential meeting was held in the Temperance Hall, at Warcop, for the purpose of presenting to MR. JOHN SLINGER, a valuable testimonial as a token of the general esteem in which he is undoubtedly held in the neighbourhood both by farmers and others, and as a mark of their appreciation of his services as a veterinary practitioner. The room was nearly full, and, but for the inclemency of the night, we have no doubt but that the room would have been packed. Such has been the general desire of the people of the neighbourhood to do honour to one whom they not only honour for his skill amongst stock, but also for his spotless integrity, his kindly and cheerful courtesy, and for other qualities which go to constitute the characteristics of a man, in the highest sense of that word. The platform was filled by gentlemen and influential farmers, amongst whom we noticed CAP. CHAMLEY (chairman), F. WYBERGH, Esq., (vice-chairman), MESSRS. THORNBORROW, EWINS, PEARSON, FAWCETT, LAMBERT, WILKINSON, FRANKLAND, and others whose names we could not ascertain; and in the body of the hall we noticed the following: ... MRS. PRESTON, Warcop Hall; MISSES BREEKS (2), Eden Gate; MRS. WYBERGH, Warcop Tower; MISS FAWCETT, MESSRS. RICHARDSON, LAMBERT, HORN, STEEL, COCKBURN, FAWCETT, WILKINSON, GRAHAM, ROBINSON, DOBINSON, &c., &c. THE CHAIRMAN, on rising, said - Some time ago a meeting was held to take into consideration the best manner in which we could give to MR. SLINGER a tribute of our esteem, however small and inadequate, as the expression of our feelings. MR. SLINGER is a man whom we all value, whom we all honour, and in whom we have the most implicit faith. He is devoted to his profession, and is a skilful practitioner, besides being a kind and valued neighbour. In any weather, at any time of the day or night, he is ever ready to attend to the call of rich and poor without distinction of person or creed. It does not matter whether his talents are used in curing man or beast, he is generally successful. I may mention that a lady, some time ago, was restored to convalescence by MR. SLINGER after the doctors in London had tried all their skill upon her in vain. This testimonial which you now see before you is to be presented to MR. SLINGER to show our gratitude to him for giving us his time and services for a long series of years without even making a charge. [ Loud cheers ]. Who has not reason to be thankful that there is such a man as JOHN SLINGER in the neighbourhood upon whom he can depend in case of necessity ? That this has been the general feeling, I am convinced by the large and influential meeting I see before me this evening. - THE CHAIRMAN then called upon F. WYBERGH, Esq., (vice-chairman), who said: I am heartily glad to see before me this evening such an important meeting as I now have the pleasure of seeing in the hall. We have met to do honour to MR. SLINGER - to present him with a tribute of respect and admiration of his well-known character. In the first place, let me congratulate the committee of management upon the unusual, if not unprecedented, success with which they have carried out the object they had in view. But this object would not have been achieved if the farmers and others had not come forward most cordially, most willingly, and in the most generous manner possible with their subscriptions. This shows the esteem in which, so far as regards this district, MR. SLINGER is universally held. That he possesses extraordinary talents "nobody can deny", that he is generally esteemed, nobody will deny, and that he possesses honesty in all his transactions, nobody who knows him should deny. He not only possesses talents, but he uses them, and does not hide his lights under a bushel. I heartily and cheerfully bear testimony to the skill and attention given to me by MR. SLINGER whenever I have required his services. He is not a man who would neglect the poor man's cow to attend the hunter of the rich man. It gives me great pleasure to see so many ladies here present, and were it not that I am aware of MRS. SLINGER's presence in an adjoining room, I would tell you all the kind words they have uttered to me concerning him. [ Laughter ]. Personally, I thank you for your general courtesy to me, and for your kindness as a neighbour; generally I thank you on behalf of those who cannot have an opportunity of doing so this evening in person. You will observe that there are six articles to be presented to you, so that when the eventide of your life draws to a close - a time which I hope is far distant - you will be able to divide them amongst the members of your family. In conclusion, let me say that I wish to you and yours every blessing which a long life, peace, plenty and prosperity bring in their train. [ Cheers ]. THE CHAIRMAN then called upon MR. FAWCETT, jun., who bore willing testimony to MR. SLINGER's kindness to the poor, and his never failing willingness to attend whenever required. MR. R. W. LAMBERT was next called upon by the CHAIRMAN, and in a neat and well-arranged speech, he showed how useful MR. SLINGER had been in keeping Westmorland open during the rinderpest, how he had devoted his whole attention to diseases prevalent amongst cattle, and how successful he had been in his profession; and, in conclusion, he paid a graceful tribute of admiration to MR. SLINGER, and expressed a hope that when his descendants looked upon that testimonial, they would be incited to emulate his character, and thus carry on the good work of their ancestor. CAPTAIN CHAMLEY then formally presented the testimonial, which consisted of a massive gold watch and chain, value 25 guineas; tea and coffee service, value 17 guineas, timepiece, value 15 guineas. Each article bearing the following inscription: - "Presented to MR. JOHN SLINGER, by his friends and neighbours, in acknowledgment for his obliging and efficient services as a veterinary practitioner in the district over a period of 17 years. Warcop, 1873". MR. SLINGER, who was received with enthusiasm, then made the following response: MR. CHAIRMAN, Ladies and Gentlemen, I can assure you my heart is too full and my language too feeble to express to you all that I feel on this occasion. I fear that these chaste and valuable articles will make me feel prouder than I ought to be. It's quite a change to me to be spoken of in such highly flattering terms as I have been spoken of this evening; and in the whole course of my life, I never thought that I should ever receive any such acknowledgment of the poor services I have tried to render you. To me such a proud distinction is the pinnacle of fame. If this audience believe all that has been said of me, they cannot avoid coming to the conclusion that I am a wise man - [ laughter ] - and, if I grow wiser as I grow older, as I ought to do, why, bless my life, I don't "kna what I shall get teea." [ Much laughter ]. However, with all your fine speeches and handsome articles, I don't think you'll make me a gentleman [ Laughter ]. I'm nobbut JOHN SLINGER [ Great Laughter ]. Were one of the ancient philosophers to appear here this evening, it would be one of the most difficult problems he would ever solve, to find out how I should ever have the good fortune to become the happy, grateful, and fortunate possessor of such valuable articles. I'm sure he could not make out how I happened to catch the attention of such influential gentlemen. Testimonials are usually given to those who are leaving the country, or to those who are about to close a useful career, and I hope that by giving me this present, you don't mean to give a delicate hint that my services are no longer required. [ Laughter, and cries of "No, no." ] Well then, if that is not the case, I can only say that I shall endeavour to serve you more faithfully than I have ever hitherto done, and I shall always retain a grateful and pleasing remembrance of this evening. MR. SLINGER's speech throughout was highly characteristic of himself, and was replete with genuine wit and good feeling. At its conclusion he was much cheered. After the various speeches, MR. and MRS. SLINGER entertained all present most handsomely, providing for them a most substantial supper

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