BATHING FATALITIES. On Monday evening, MR. ROBERT DOBIE, aged 25, manager of the Kendal Co-operative Stores, was drowned whilst bathing in Windermere Lake. On the same day, two deaths by drowning occurred at Milnthorpe, eight miles from Kendal, in an inlet of Morecambe Bay. A nurse, with a little girl, daughter of the REV. G. H. WALLACE, of Kendal, were wading in the sand, when both got into a hole, and were unable to save themselves. At St. Helens, MR. C. E. DRIFFIELD held an inquest on the bodies of JOHN MORRIS and JOHN HOWARD, who were drowned on Monday last, under cirucmstances already reported. A verdict of "Accidental death" was returned in each case.

A PUZZLE FOR EUCLID. In last week's Ulverston paper there appeared the following announcement: "To be sold, an excellent square piano-forte with CIRCULAR ends."

THE PRESTON GUARDIAN, Sat. March 24, 1849. TEMPERANCE LECTURE. On Monday and Tuesday evenings last, MRS. JACKSON, of Wakefield ( formerly of Whitehaven ), gave two excellent lectures on teetotalism, in the Temperance Hall; The REV. SAMUEL LAMBRICK occupied the chair on Monday evening, and the REV. T. JOBLING on Tuesday evening. The attendance on both evenings was large and respectable, and a few good impressions appeared to be made on the minds of those present. MRS. JACKSON also preached an excellent sermon in the Primitive Methodist Chapel, Saul-street, on Sunday afternoon last; the chapel on this occasion was crowded, many stood in the aisle and on the stairs during the service.

LAKE DISTRICT. MR. WHYATT gave a concert at the Ulverston Theatre on Tuesday evening to rather a slender audience. MISS SHAW and MR. PIGOTT sang at the entertainment. He was to give another concert last evening. WHITSUN-WEEK promises to be a busy one for Ulverston and the neighbourhood. Club processions and dinners occupy Monday at Ulverston; similar proceedings mark Tuesday at Cartmel, Dalton, and Hawkshead, and Wednesday at Broughton-in-Furness, Kirkby, and Millom; Thursday is the Fair, and Friday, and Saturday Ulverston Races, or as they are more generally termed, Flan Sports. A TEMPERANCE SOIREE was held with great eclat on Tuesday last, at Ulverston. AN ILLICIT STILL. - On Monday last, at the Magistrates' Office, Hawkshead, MR. SLEE, a farmer of Hawkshead, was fined in the penalty of £100 and costs for using an illicit still for manufacturing whiskey on his farm. MANSLAUGHTER AT ULVERSTON. - On Monday last, an inquest was held on the body of JOHN AINSWORTH, a miner, before W. BLENDALL, Esq., coroner, Ulverston. JAMES ATKINSON stood implicated in the charge of causing deceased's death. The facts of the case may be briefly stated as follows: - The deceased, JOHN AINSWORTH, who had been in the employ of the Ulverston Mining Company for seven years, was engaged on Wednesday week, wheeling iron ore from a mine at Cross Gaites; and the prisoner, JAMES ATKINSON, and his son-in-law, MATTHEW MYERS, were carting the ore to the railway station. The ore, it appears, was wet, and the prisoner complained that the deceased was tipping it at a spot that prevented him and his son-in-law filling their carts with dry ore. An altercation ensued, and ultimately the prisoner became exasperated, and running up the heap, seized deceased by the collar, dragged him down, forced him across the road to the edge of a pond lying in a hollow, where, it is alleged, he threw him off his feet on some large rough stones, and that his death was caused in consequence. After hearing the evidence adduced, the jury returned a verdict of "Manslaughter" against the prisoner ATKINSON, who was forthwith committed to take his trial. ___________________________________________________

CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND WRESTLING. The annual meeting of the Cumberland and Westmorland Wrestling Society was held yesterday, at Lillie Bridge, London. The twelve-stone London prize was won by J. WANNOP, of Carlisle, beating H. GRAHAM, Carlisle. The champion prize for men of all weights fell to GEORGE STEADMAN, of Drybeck, beating LOUDEN of Frizington. The country prize for 11-1/2-stone men was won by FREARS, of Frizington. Foot racing and pole jumping filled up the programme. The meeting was a great success, some 10,000 people being on the ground, and the weather, except for a light shower, beautifully fine.

BIRTH. November 20, at Park-house, Brough, Westmoreland, the wife of AUGUSTUS TURNER, Esq., of a daughter.

Hi Listers Just to let you know that I have updated all the parish pages on the Westmorland Genuki site with new maps. Well actually with /old/ maps (based on a C19th one scanned and kindly provided by Sarah Reveley). These are larger, and hopefully clearer than the old ones. I hope that they will help give newbies an idea of the geography of the county and where parishes are located. (And of course we still have the /Nearby Places/ feature on each parish page) If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, please check out Genuki at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/index.htm Over the next few weeks I will be checking the pages and links, making corrections and improving the format. If you see any mistakes, please let me know. Other developments to come... Best regards Dave Huddart Paris (3rd attempt to post to the list)

SUCCESS OF LOCAL WRESTLER. - MR. H. RAYTON, of Blackburn, carried off the first prize, value £15, for Cumberland wrestling at the Compstall sports on Saturday, being the third year in succession; and he was also successful at Stockport on Saturday week, throwing J. THOMPSON, of Ulverstone, on both occasion.

On Thursday 22 January 2009 10:49:48 Gerry Doyle wrote: > Hi > > It is known as the Constables Census. On the Genuki site under Westmorland > you can get details > Well, I found Richard BURN at Temple Sowerby in 1777 via the Window Tax, and three BURN family members (including Richard) at Temple Sowerby in 1787 which is where I thought they would be, so I'm happy! :-) Thanks to those that pointed me in the right direction. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Hi It is known as the Constables Census. On the Genuki site under Westmorland you can get details Regards Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lightfoot" <michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall > On Wednesday 21 January 2009 21:44:18 David Railton wrote: >> >> Part of a 1787 census of Westmorland survives and the inhabitants of >> Newbiggin are shown in it although property names are not given. > > Is this census information readily available? If so, where can I get > access > to it? > > If you have easy access is it possible for you to look for the name BURN > in > Newbiggin and Temple Sowerby? I am particularly interested in the family > of > Richard BURN and Mary FARRRER. He was a Barber Surgeon and they lived in > the > border area of Cumberland and Westmorland after they married at Addingham > (now vanished) in Cumberland. One of his daughters (Mary) was christened > at > Temple Sowerby in 1765. His son William, who married Hannah TALLENTIRE at > Kirkland just across Crowdundle Beck from Newbiggin later farmed at Black > Leases, between Newbiggin and Kirkby Thore and another son Richard lived > at > Woodside, Brougham between Temple Sowerby and Penrith. > > I have various unsourced events sent to me by another researcher, but > would > love to verify this information. > > -- > ==== > Michael Lightfoot > Canberra, Australia > michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au > ==== > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you David & John The marriage of John Gowling & Ann Hetherington contributed to me being here six generations later. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Steel Genealogy" <fh@johnsteel.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall > Warren > I have a John Gowling (Goulding) Born 23 Mar 1779 in Newbiggin, Died 30th > Jan 1857 in Bongate Appleby, son of Thomas Gowling (Goulding) 1752-1821 > Newbiggin, he married Ann Hetherington first then later married Margaret > Steel who is my line. That line of Steels come from the Crackenthorpe, > Bongate area. > Can't actually tie them to Newbiggin hall though. > John Steel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren & Judy Gowling [mailto:jgowling@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: 21 January 2009 11:13 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall > > Hi David > > You mentioned that the tenancy of Newbiggin Hall passed through various > families. Is there a record of any Gowling's as occupants, either as > tenants > or owners and the dates. > > Thanks > Warren (South Australia) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 21:44:18 David Railton wrote: > > Part of a 1787 census of Westmorland survives and the inhabitants of > Newbiggin are shown in it although property names are not given. Is this census information readily available? If so, where can I get access to it? If you have easy access is it possible for you to look for the name BURN in Newbiggin and Temple Sowerby? I am particularly interested in the family of Richard BURN and Mary FARRRER. He was a Barber Surgeon and they lived in the border area of Cumberland and Westmorland after they married at Addingham (now vanished) in Cumberland. One of his daughters (Mary) was christened at Temple Sowerby in 1765. His son William, who married Hannah TALLENTIRE at Kirkland just across Crowdundle Beck from Newbiggin later farmed at Black Leases, between Newbiggin and Kirkby Thore and another son Richard lived at Woodside, Brougham between Temple Sowerby and Penrith. I have various unsourced events sent to me by another researcher, but would love to verify this information. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Hi David You mentioned that the tenancy of Newbiggin Hall passed through various families. Is there a record of any Gowling's as occupants, either as tenants or owners and the dates. Thanks Warren (South Australia)

Guess that makes us related then Warren, though I am not quite sure what the relationship is. John -----Original Message----- From: Warren & Judy Gowling [mailto:jgowling@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 21 January 2009 14:31 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall Thank you David & John The marriage of John Gowling & Ann Hetherington contributed to me being here six generations later. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Steel Genealogy" <fh@johnsteel.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall > Warren > I have a John Gowling (Goulding) Born 23 Mar 1779 in Newbiggin, Died 30th > Jan 1857 in Bongate Appleby, son of Thomas Gowling (Goulding) 1752-1821 > Newbiggin, he married Ann Hetherington first then later married Margaret > Steel who is my line. That line of Steels come from the Crackenthorpe, > Bongate area. > Can't actually tie them to Newbiggin hall though. > John Steel > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren & Judy Gowling [mailto:jgowling@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: 21 January 2009 11:13 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall > > Hi David > > You mentioned that the tenancy of Newbiggin Hall passed through various > families. Is there a record of any Gowling's as occupants, either as > tenants > or owners and the dates. > > Thanks > Warren (South Australia) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Warren I have a John Gowling (Goulding) Born 23 Mar 1779 in Newbiggin, Died 30th Jan 1857 in Bongate Appleby, son of Thomas Gowling (Goulding) 1752-1821 Newbiggin, he married Ann Hetherington first then later married Margaret Steel who is my line. That line of Steels come from the Crackenthorpe, Bongate area. Can't actually tie them to Newbiggin hall though. John Steel -----Original Message----- From: Warren & Judy Gowling [mailto:jgowling@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 21 January 2009 11:13 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall Hi David You mentioned that the tenancy of Newbiggin Hall passed through various families. Is there a record of any Gowling's as occupants, either as tenants or owners and the dates. Thanks Warren (South Australia) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all who may not know of the 1787 census of Westmorland. No one knows why the census was taken and only parts of it survive. It shows, for occupants of each household: names, relationship to head of household and occupation of head. What is left of it was published by the Curwen Archives Trust in 1992. The records of the parishes that survive have been published on the web and can be found through this page: http://edenlinks.rootsweb.ancestry.com/1gp/RECORDS/TRANSINDEX.HTM David -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lightfoot Sent: 21 January 2009 11:30 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall On Wednesday 21 January 2009 21:44:18 David Railton wrote: > > Part of a 1787 census of Westmorland survives and the inhabitants of > Newbiggin are shown in it although property names are not given. Is this census information readily available? If so, where can I get access to it? If you have easy access is it possible for you to look for the name BURN in Newbiggin and Temple Sowerby? I am particularly interested in the family of Richard BURN and Mary FARRRER. He was a Barber Surgeon and they lived in the border area of Cumberland and Westmorland after they married at Addingham (now vanished) in Cumberland. One of his daughters (Mary) was christened at Temple Sowerby in 1765. His son William, who married Hannah TALLENTIRE at Kirkland just across Crowdundle Beck from Newbiggin later farmed at Black Leases, between Newbiggin and Kirkby Thore and another son Richard lived at Woodside, Brougham between Temple Sowerby and Penrith. I have various unsourced events sent to me by another researcher, but would love to verify this information. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ==== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Warren, I was referring to Williamsgill being tenanted by various branches of the Dobson family. In 1861, 1871 and 1881 Newbiggin Hall was occupied by William Crackenthorpe who, I think, owned the property. In 1891 Montague Crackenthorpe was living there. In 1901 there was only Ann Edmundson, caretaker, living at the hall. There was a Christopher Gowling, retired mason age 63, and family living in the village of Newbiggin in 1891. By 1901 Christopher Gowling's widow and her sister will still living in the village. Part of a 1787 census of Westmorland survives and the inhabitants of Newbiggin are shown in it although property names are not given. There were 2 Dobson families, those of John and William Dobson. I am guessing that John was at Newbiggin Hall. There are 3 Gowling families shown in the village; those of Thomas a mason (maybe he built Williamsgill), John also a mason and Richard another mason. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Warren & Judy Gowling Sent: 21 January 2009 09:13 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Newbiggin Hall Hi David You mentioned that the tenancy of Newbiggin Hall passed through various families. Is there a record of any Gowling's as occupants, either as tenants or owners and the dates. Thanks Warren (South Australia) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Wednesday 21 January 2009 07:02:04 David Railton wrote: > My DOBSON ancestors farmed at Williamsgill Farm, Newbiggin near Appleby. I > can locate them there until 1901. Sometime later the SOULSBY family took > over the farm. > > Does anyone know anything of the history of this farm or from when the > SOULSBY family lived there? Can anyone also tell me if the SOULSBY and > DOBSON families were linked by marriage? > Here is some info from the 1861 Census that I have just completed checking: Piece RG09/3957, ED 11, Newbiggin, Folio 53, Page 4 20, Williamsgill, George DOBSON, Head, Marr, Male, 52, Farmer of 570 Ac empl. 6 lab & 1 boy, WES, Cliburn , ,Mary DOBSON, Wife, Marr, Female, 45, , CUL, Greystoke , , John DOBSON, Father, Wid, Male, 45, Retired Farmer, WES, Newbiggin Six servants are then listed, but no children. Two assumptions may be made from the above. John Dobson previously lived at Cliburn (when George was born) and it may be assumed that they didn't farm Williamsgill until after 1809 or so. Secondly, George and Mary were either childless or they had no children born after 1848 or so, or less likely they were rich enough to have sent their children to a boarding school. The form I received the piece for checking is such that searching for the name SOULSBY is not possible so I didn't look for that name in the area. This piece is now being validated and will appear on FreeCen in due course. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther & St Breock, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ====

Thanks Michael, John Dobson (bc1721) died at Newbiggin in 1777 at which time he was tenant of Newbiggin Hall. Twenty years later the farm house at Williamsgill, Newbiggin was built (1797 is on the date stone above the door) so that I imagine that his son, John (b1755), was then the tenant. The tenancy then appears to have passed through various family members; sons, brothers, cousins. All the children of John (bc1721) were baptised at Newbiggin. All the children of John (b1755) were born at Holme but baptised at Newbiggin. I have the history of the DOBSON link to Williamsgill Farm from the 1841 to 1901 census and from church records. I am now trying to find information post 1901. In 1901 Anthony DOBSON, born 1839, was the tenant. He died in 1914. Sometime after 1901 the SOULSBY family took over the tenancy. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lightfoot Sent: 20 January 2009 20:49 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DOBON + SOULSBY - Williamsgill, Newbiggin On Wednesday 21 January 2009 07:02:04 David Railton wrote: > My DOBSON ancestors farmed at Williamsgill Farm, Newbiggin near Appleby. I > can locate them there until 1901. Sometime later the SOULSBY family took > over the farm. > > Does anyone know anything of the history of this farm or from when the > SOULSBY family lived there? Can anyone also tell me if the SOULSBY and > DOBSON families were linked by marriage? > Here is some info from the 1861 Census that I have just completed checking: Piece RG09/3957, ED 11, Newbiggin, Folio 53, Page 4 20, Williamsgill, George DOBSON, Head, Marr, Male, 52, Farmer of 570 Ac empl. 6 lab & 1 boy, WES, Cliburn , ,Mary DOBSON, Wife, Marr, Female, 45, , CUL, Greystoke , , John DOBSON, Father, Wid, Male, 45, Retired Farmer, WES, Newbiggin Six servants are then listed, but no children. Two assumptions may be made from the above. John Dobson previously lived at Cliburn (when George was born) and it may be assumed that they didn't farm Williamsgill until after 1809 or so. Secondly, George and Mary were either childless or they had no children born after 1848 or so, or less likely they were rich enough to have sent their children to a boarding school. The form I received the piece for checking is such that searching for the name SOULSBY is not possible so I didn't look for that name in the area. This piece is now being validated and will appear on FreeCen in due course. -- ==== Michael Lightfoot Canberra, Australia OPC Merther & St Breock, Cornwall see http://www.cornwall-opc.org michael.lightfoot@pcug.org.au ==== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My DOBSON ancestors farmed at Williamsgill Farm, Newbiggin near Appleby. I can locate them there until 1901. Sometime later the SOULSBY family took over the farm. Does anyone know anything of the history of this farm or from when the SOULSBY family lived there? Can anyone also tell me if the SOULSBY and DOBSON families were linked by marriage? David