Roger, Many thanks for your reply, a further check shows that Spring Gardens is absolutely correct and not Springfield Gardens as I had at first thought. Many thanks for your help. Regards, Derek. ----- Original Message ----- From: <HadwinR@aol.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Address in Kendal > Derek, > > Sorry - unable to help except to say that I have perused two large scale > maps of Kendal dated 1833 and 1853 all to no avail. > There is a Spring Gardens shown in my oldish post code book which appears to > be off Low Fell Side. > > Regards, > Roger > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Derek: Here is a satellite picture. Terry. Toronto http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=S > From: dereksadler@gofast.co.uk > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:51:45 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Address in Kendal > > Roger, > > Many thanks for your reply, a further check shows that Spring Gardens is > absolutely correct and not Springfield Gardens as I had at first thought. > Many thanks for your help. > > Regards, > > Derek. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HadwinR@aol.com> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Address in Kendal > > > > Derek, > > > > Sorry - unable to help except to say that I have perused two large scale > > maps of Kendal dated 1833 and 1853 all to no avail. > > There is a Spring Gardens shown in my oldish post code book which appears > to > > be off Low Fell Side. > > > > Regards, > > Roger > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Chat with the whole group, and bring everyone together. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650735

I wonder if SKS could tell me the whereabouts of Springfield Gardens in Kendal in 1901. Can't find anything on my maps. Regards, Derek (Northumberland)

Derek, Sorry - unable to help except to say that I have perused two large scale maps of Kendal dated 1833 and 1853 all to no avail. There is a Spring Gardens shown in my oldish post code book which appears to be off Low Fell Side. Regards, Roger

-----Original Message----- From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> To: "eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com" <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>; "Genealogy-Cumberland" <Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com> Sent: 20/02/09 21:38 Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] PENRITH HERALD January 24,1874 / LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. THE ROYAL WEDDING was signalized in Penrith yesterday by the display of flags, &c., from the old Church tower and various prominent places in the town, whilst a merry peal was rung at intervals during the day. FALL IN THE PRICE OF COAL. - The demand for house coal at Sheffield is extremely slack, and the agents of several collieries have reduced their prices to the extent of from 1s. 6d. to 2s. 6d. per ton. The opinion entertained by many agents is that by Spring, fuel will be comparatively cheap. KIDD v. TALLENTIRE AND OTHERS. - An act is now pending, and came on for hearing in London this week, (in which the above are the plaintiffs and defendants), having reference to the ownership of an estate near Renwick. MR. HOUGH, of Carlisle, is the attorney for plaintiff, and MESSRS. BLEAYMIRE and SHEPHERD for the defendants. The case has as yet not proceeded further than the examination and cross examination of two of plaintiff's witnesses, and will not be again resumed for some time. LEEDS LEATHER FAIR. - The attendance at this market on Wednesday was unusually large, but the business transacted was on a limited scale. There was a short supply of leather which found buyers at late quotations. Shaved and dressing hides were a shade easier to buy, whilst for heavy sole leather, there was no change. Heavy foreign butts and bends are from 1/2 d. to 1 d. per lb. cheaper; but English butts are quiet, though there have been some sales for forward delivery. Light common and shaved hides are in good demand, also heavy good common hides for harness. Shaved hides maintain their price, but common hides have receded a fraction. Kips are rather higher, but the demand for horse hides is quiet, and there is no change in prices. Calfskins of light averages are in good request. Horse butts, tanned for dressing, limed or in the hair, sell immediately on arrival. The demand for kip butts is much improved. Levant is better to sell. Other descriptions of currier leather, quiet. =========================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://axis.eu.atkinsglobal.com/workinghere/itservices/Pages/dataandemailmgt.aspx#mailcontrol) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/terms_and_conditions/index.aspx Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.

PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News. =============================================== SMALL NEWS ITEM. A BRISTOL CONTEMPORARY says a Taunton butcher the other day killed a heifer whose kidney weighed no less than 174 lbs. This beats the famous Scotch gooseberry. ___________________________________________________

PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News. ============================================ AN ANCIENT PLANE-TREE. - There is an old historical plane-tree standing in the Temple gardens. The Thames formerly flowed close to its roots, and it is now pointed out as marking the site of the old river wall, successive embankments having now shut out the river 50 or 60 yards further to the south. Apart from its interest as a landmark, both GOLDSMITH and JOHNSON are reputed to have spent many an hour in "sweet converse" beneath its shade; nor is this improbable, as it has evidently been a stately tree in its time. When the river wall was removed further south, the ground around it was raised to a height of 15 feet, and probably, this hastened its death by depriving its roots of their due amount of aeration. It has been dead since 1835, and shows little of its former greatness. The branches are rotten and broken, and in a few years' time, if not better protected than it is, it will be among the things of the past. A neat label, giving a short account of its history, would be appreciated by visitors to the Temple-gardens, many of whom are, in all probability, quite unaware of its existence or of its historical interest. - The Garden. =======================================

PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News. =============================================== SMALL NEWS ITEMS. IT IS STATED that the Turkish Government has ordered an ironclad corvette to be constructed in England at a cost of three millions of francs. _________________________________________________ A KANSAS PAPER, which finds it expedient to avoid personalities, says: "MRS. GUERNSEY, of Fort Scott, recently fired at some burglars, and next day one of the aldermen had his arm amputated." _________________________________________________ SCIENTIFIC. - Languid but Learned Swell: "No, fact is I never dance. Find physical exercise bad for brain. Going rather deep into natural history - aw -". Ignorant Little Creature: "What do you mean ? Are you keeping rabbits ?" - Judy. _________________________________________________ THE ' Scotsman's' Londonn correspondent hears that one of our most popular dramatists is about to bring out a play which will present JOHN KNOX in a singularly novel character - that of exhibiting an intense feeling of love for MARY STUART, and at the same time struggling with the insane passion. _________________________________________________ FOR THE NEXT BUDGET. - "A tax of two-pence a day on all foreigners in France" is said to be under consideration. Does not this suggest to MR. GLADSTONE a splendid opportunity ? Let him only impose a tax on all foreigners in England, being organ-grinders or street-musicians of any description, and he will so endear himself to the whole country that we shall hear no more of Conservative reaction. - Punch. __________________________________________________

PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News. =============================================== SMALL NEWS ITEMS. TRAGEDY AT FARNHAM. - On Saturday, a man named STEPHEN DEADNAN and his wife were found in their house at Bath-cottages, near the Farnham railway station, both being fearfully wounded. MRS. DEADNAN was lying in an upper room of the cottage. Four or five wounds had been inflicted on her head and the upper part of her body, and in another room the husband was discovered with his throat cut in a frightful manner. Both were alive at the time, but the man died in the course of the day. Although the injuries sustained by MRS. DEADNAN were of a most serious character, she was able to give some particulars of the occurrence. From her statement to the police, it appears that her husband quarrelled with her as they were dressing in the morning. He attacked her with a knife, and stabbed her several times, the weapon being broken in the struggle that took place between them. He then rushed downstairs and cut his own throat with another knife. According to the neighbours, the deceased man and his wife had lived very unhappily together for a long time past, and it was stated that the former had recently frequently assaulted and threatened the poor woman, who is the mother of several children. __________________________________________________

PENRITH HERALD and East Cumberland and Westmorland News. =============================================== SMALL NEWS ITEMS. THE WIFE OF PRIVATE CORELANE, 57th Regiment, stationed at Woolwich, has given birth to three children at the Female Hospital. She had previously had twins, all of whom are alive and well. _________________________________________________________ MINING FATALITIES. - On Monday while the miners were busy working in No. 10 pit, Rosehill, Coalbridge, near Glasgow, belonging to MR. ROBERT ADIE and Sons, a sudden and unexpected fall occurred of about three tons of coal and rubbish, burying three of the men. When dug out, the men were discovered to be dead, and their bodies were frightfully mangled. The names of the unfortunate men are ... PETER DUFFY, aged 40; ALEXANDER MAYS, aged 49, and ROBERT MAYS, a son of the foregoing, a young man of 18 years of age. Six or eight men were in a pit at the Crescent Colliery, Willenhall, South Staffordshire, on Saturday, propping the roof, when an immense quantity of mineral fell. Two men were got out comparatively unhurt; the others were crushed to death. _________________________________________________________ ELECTION AT NEWCASTLE. - The official declaration of the poll in this election was made on Thursday afternoon, as follows: MR. COWEN (Liberal), 7356; MR. HAMMOND (Conservative), 6353; majority for MR. COWEN, 1003. There was considerable excitement during the day amongst the crowds of people who assembled in front of the Town Hall and at the central committee rooms, from nine o'clock in the morning, the hour at which the casting up of the votes began, until the declaration was made. Up to the last moment the result was certain, though as the day progressed it was generally believed among MR. COWEN's supporters that there would be a majority in their favour of at least 500. The announcement of the numbers was received with loud cheering for the successful candidate. __________________________________________________________

Can anybody shed any light on a family named CRAWFORD who lived in Holme, Westmorland in the 1880s and 1890s. They were workers in a cocoa fibre factory and lived (according to a badly written census) at Sheernest ??? in Holme. Regards Barbara Sanderson

Barbara, Unable to shed any light on the Crawford name but "Sheernest" is shown on the OS map as being on the B6384 just on the west side of the M6 before the Lancaster Canal and where the B6384 passes over the motorway all slightly to the south of Holme village. Post code LA6 1QX. Regards, Roger

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. THE ROYAL WEDDING was signalized in Penrith yesterday by the display of flags, &c., from the old Church tower and various prominent places in the town, whilst a merry peal was rung at intervals during the day. FALL IN THE PRICE OF COAL. - The demand for house coal at Sheffield is extremely slack, and the agents of several collieries have reduced their prices to the extent of from 1s. 6d. to 2s. 6d. per ton. The opinion entertained by many agents is that by Spring, fuel will be comparatively cheap. KIDD v. TALLENTIRE AND OTHERS. - An act is now pending, and came on for hearing in London this week, (in which the above are the plaintiffs and defendants), having reference to the ownership of an estate near Renwick. MR. HOUGH, of Carlisle, is the attorney for plaintiff, and MESSRS. BLEAYMIRE and SHEPHERD for the defendants. The case has as yet not proceeded further than the examination and cross examination of two of plaintiff's witnesses, and will not be again resumed for some time. LEEDS LEATHER FAIR. - The attendance at this market on Wednesday was unusually large, but the business transacted was on a limited scale. There was a short supply of leather which found buyers at late quotations. Shaved and dressing hides were a shade easier to buy, whilst for heavy sole leather, there was no change. Heavy foreign butts and bends are from 1/2 d. to 1 d. per lb. cheaper; but English butts are quiet, though there have been some sales for forward delivery. Light common and shaved hides are in good demand, also heavy good common hides for harness. Shaved hides maintain their price, but common hides have receded a fraction. Kips are rather higher, but the demand for horse hides is quiet, and there is no change in prices. Calfskins of light averages are in good request. Horse butts, tanned for dressing, limed or in the hair, sell immediately on arrival. The demand for kip butts is much improved. Levant is better to sell. Other descriptions of currier leather, quiet. ===========================================

THE BRIDGE OVER THE EAMONT. On Wednesday week, a portion of the committee appointed at the Westmorland Quarter Sessions to examine into the reputed dangerous state of the bridge crossing the river at Eamont Bridge, met to view the structure, accompanied by MR. BINTLEY, the county bridge surveyor. The gentlemen present were the REV. CANON SIMPSON, D.D. CAPTAIN MARKHAM, F. PARKER, Esq. and W. H. PARKIN, JUN., Esq., members of the Penrith Local Board of Health. MR. WM. LYNN MR. G. GOODBARN MR. T. REDFERN and MR. J. PATTINSON. A minute examination was made, and valuable hints and suggestions were given by MR. BINTLEY for the elucidation of the matter and the amendment of the evil, of which frequent complaint has been made, by widening the structure. Whilst the gentlemen were prosecuting their investigation, a most conclusive illustration was given of the awkward and dangerous character of the bridge. A gig coming from the direction of Penrith, in which a lady and a gentleman were seated, was about to meet a brewer's dray proceeding in the opposite direction near the apex of the structure, and the latter had to draw aside into one of the recesses to allow the other conveyance to pass. Although nothing of a definite nature was decided upon, an unanimous feeling seemed to prevail that steps must be taken, either by widening or some other means, to protect travellers from the great danger to which they are at present exposed.

MILITARY TRAINING GROUND FOR THE NORTH. A correspondent says - "Since 1872, the War Minister and his subordinates have been unceasing in their efforts to secure, for the purposes of a military tactical station, some 1,500 or 2,000 acres of the numerous large tracts of moorland in Yorkshire and on the eastern borders of Westmorland, at something like a reasonable price, but without avail. Of the three and a half millions voted by parliament for carrying out the provisions of the Localisation Act, £300,00 was allowed by the Committee for the purchase of lands to form this tactical station; but in estimating the probable value of moorland, the Committee appear to have entirely overlooked one very important item, which is the annual rent derived from sportsmen. Many of these barren moors, to all appearance valueless, will realize during the season from £10 to £14 per acre for their fluctuating supply of grouse to the gun, and as the demand for sport each year far exceeds the supply, the prospective value of the moors becomes proportionately high. Unless, therefore, Government is prepared to give a fancy price, it is to be feared that the North will still remain without its Aldershot, and must fain be content with a limited training ground for its militia and volunteers. ________________________________________________

GOVERNMENT RATING BILL. MR. ISAAC FLETCHER, M.P., in addressing his consitituents at Cockermouth on Wednesday last, mentioned a fact which should be widely known. He stated - and there is nobody more likely to be well-informed upon the subject - that if the Government Rating Bill of last session had been passed, it would have added from 25 to 30 per cent. to the rateable value of the county of Cumberland by bringing under assessment the extensive metalliferous mines in West Cumberland which at present escape local taxation. The local burthens of the county would have been reduced by a corresponding amount and a great boon would have been conferred upon the county. We heartily join with MR. FLETCHER in commending this fact to the attention of the voters in this county, and reminding them that to the opponents of MR. GLADSTONE's Government, they owe the indefinite postponement of this just measure of relief. When they pay their local taxes let them score up one-fourth of the amount to the debit of the Tories. ===========================================

PETTY SESSIONS PENRITH, Saturday, Jan. 17 (Before J. JAMESON, W. HARRISON, and J. THOMPSON, Esqrs.) CHARGE OF SHEEP STEALING. JAMES DIXON, labourer, formerly of Penrith, but now residing at Newsham, in the parish of Greystoke, was brought up in custody charged with stealing a sheep, the property of MR. A. MCDOUGALL, on or about the 25th December last. MR. S. K. JAMES appeared on the prisoner's behalf. From the evidence it appeared that one of 46 sheep belonging to the prosecutor, was missed about Christmas from a field at High Chapter, in the parish of Castlesowerby. Prisoner was formerly a hind for MR. MCDOUGALL, and assisted to dip the sheep. Abotu a year ago, he left prosecutor's employ, and now lives a mile from where the sheep was lost. On the 8th of this month JAMES TAYLOR, a farm bailiff, found a guano bag containing a sheep skin among the hay in a byre at Woodgill, two miles distant from prisoner's house. There was a blue mark upon the skin above the tail, as in the case of the prosecutor's sheep, and where the letter D ought to have been, the wool was torn away. ANN PATTISON, the wife of the carrier, identified the guano bag as one she had given to the prisoner's wife. She knew it to be the same from the darns and stains upon it. After other evidence, MR. JAMES applied for an adjournment, in order to produce evidence on behalf of the prisoner. The application was granted, and on Tuesday the further hearing of the case was gone into. MR. JAMES drew attention to what he regarded as discrepancies and inconsistnecy in the evidence tendered, and called witnesses in behalf of the prisoner. The Bench retired, and on their return, the Chairman said, "We don't find that there is sufficient evidence upon which we can send the prisoner for trial at present, but our decision is by no means final about the matter." MR. JAMES said he had been requested to mention one circumstance which had recently occurred. He did not feel justified in nameing it before as he had no evidence to prove it; but he had been told by the prisoner that a stray sheep of MR. MCDOUGALL's had been found in a field. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. PIANOFORTE RECITAL AT KESWICK - MR. FREEMAN, the organist of Crosthwaite, gave on Tuesday evening, at the Keswick Hotel, a piano forte recital, aided by his pupil, MISS SMITH, of the Luham, Penrith, and MR. WALES, on the flute. To give greater effect to the entertainment, a grand iron pianoforte of Broadwoods' was used for the occasion. MR. FREEMAN played, in a masterly style, two of Beethoven's most elaborate compositions, and was especially happy in his drawing out the "linked sweetness" of Mendelssohns's "Songs without words," relieving the more classical music by some sparkling dance gems. MISS SMITH proved herself no tyro on the instrument; combining delicacy of touch with brilliancy of execution, she performing Heller's "La Truite", and Pauer's "La Cascade", with the accuracy and finish of a professional. Notwithstanding the extremely unfavourable weather, the room was well filled by a fashionable and select audience, who manifested in a most unequivocal manner of their appreciation of the high class entertainment prepared for their recreation. __________________________________________________

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. KIRKOSWALD. - A correspondent writes: - "The fever has left us at last, and we hope altogether. Sixty persons have suffered from it during the last four months, but the last patient is recovering. We hope business will again go on as usual, and that our friends will no longer be afraid to visit us." ______________________________ SPRING CIRCUIT OF THE JUDGES. - MR. AMPHLETT, Q.C., having been appointed a Baron of the Exchequer, the Spring Circuits have been altered, viz. ---- Northern, MR. JUSTICE DENMAN and MR. BARON AMPHLETT; Western, MR. JUSTICE KEATING and MR. JUSTICE QUAIN; South Wales, MR. JUCTICE HONEYMAN. ______________________________ GOVERNMENT RATING BILL. - MR. ISAAC FLETCHER, M.P., in addressing his constituents at Cockermouth on Wednesday last, mentioned a fact which should be widely known. He stated - and there is nobody likely to be well-informed upon the subject - that if the Government Rating Bill of last session had been passed, it would have added from 25 to 30 per cent. to the rateable value of the county of Cumberland by bringing under assessment the extensive metalliferous mines in West Cumberland which at present escape local taxation. The local burthens of the county would have been reduced by a corresponding amount and a great boon would have been conferred upon the county. We heartily join with MR. FLETCHER in commending this fact to the attention of the voters in this county, and reminding them that to the opponents of MR. GLADSTONE's Government they owe the indefinite postponement of this just measure of relief. When they pay their local taxes, let them score up one-fourth of the amount to the debit of the Tories. ===========================================