By 1851 Census, Elizabeth is a Widow, age 65, born Morland, Westmorland, a Labourer. With her are: Ann, age 22, unmarried, born Warkcoop(?), Westmorland William, age 13, Grandson, Scholar, born Keswick, Cumberland Ann, age 9, Grandaughter, Scholar, born Bampton, Westmorland Eliz'th, age 3, Grandaughter, born Bampton, Westmorland Barb, Ontario, Canada.

AHA !! no wonder I couldn't find the right ones on the 1841 Census. They are indexed as BRUSKILLS (without the "N"). I just couldn't figure that out. Now ................ to try and move forward to the 1851 Census. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hi Barb thanks for the reply , but the family from the 1841 census, living in Bampton Town are as follows Richard BRUNSKILL, M, 60, Shoe m, Y John BRUNSKILL, M, 25, Shoe m, Y Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, F, 55, Y Ann BRUNSKILL, F, 30, Y Jane BRUNSKILL, F, 25, Y Joseph BRUNSKILL, M, 14, Shoe m Ap, Y Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, F, 13, Y William BRUNSKILL, M, 7, Y If anyone can find them on the 1851 or 1861 census I would appreciate it. Thanks Will Brunskill Sunny Germany ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Bampton Westmorland Brunskills > On the 1851 Census, there is a Richard BRUNSKILL, Farmer of 6 Acres, age > 69, > estimated Birth Year: abt. 1782; Where born: Brough, Westmorland. He is > with his wife, > Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 73, estimated Birth Year: abt. 1778, b. Aisgath, > Yorkshire, and also a relative, > Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 12, b. abt. 1839, Brough, Westmorland > > They are in Stainmore, Westmorland, East Ward, Appleby > > If you think this is the correct family, I could send the census page > image > to you. > > The only BRUNSKILL I can see on the 1851 census, is a Thomas, age 39, b. > abt. 1812, a Servant, b. Bampton, Westmorland, and living in Lamonby, > Cumberland; Registration District: Penrith; sub-registration district: > Greystoke. Thomas is a widower, Ag Lab > > Barb, Ontario, Canada > >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brunskills" <brunskills@t-online.de<<<<<<<< > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2125 - Release Date: 05/20/09 18:03:00

Hello Listers, Could anyone advise us if there is a Lancashire website which works like this Westmorland site, and if so, would someone email the address to us. Thank you for any help you may be able to offer. Kind regards Bronwen and David

Johnathan: The following U.R.L. could be of interest. Terry Alderson Toronto http://www.lancs.ac.uk/fass/projects/manorialrecords/manors/index.htm > From: jonathankirton@sympatico.ca > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:43:25 -0400 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Manor of Jonby or Johnby, co. Cumberland, circa 1380 > > Dear Group, > > I am seeking any information I can find on this manor, and the > following circumstances. > > The manor is shown in about 1380 to have been in the possession of a > John de Kirketon (or Kirton), the son of a Robert de Kirketon who had > married an Elena Burdon, sister and heir of her brother, Gregory > Burdon, who had previously been in possession of the manor. > > I suspect, and am attempting to confirm, that the above John(3) de > Kirketon was a great, great, great grandson of Gilbert de Kirketon, > who was interim High Sheriff of Westmorland from circa 1229, > following the death of the hereditary High Sheriff, Robert de Veteri > Ponte, Earl of Westmorland, in late 1227, and the fact that Robert's > son and heir, John de Veteri Ponte, had still not reached his > majority. Gilbert evidently continued as interim High Sheriff until > 1234, when John de Veteri Ponte reached his age of majority, and > assumed his father's hereditary position. From 1229 until 1234 it is > believed that Gilbert de Kirketon had a younger son, John(1) de > Kirketon, (as mentioned in the paragraph above) acting as his Under > Sheriff. > When, in 1241, John de Veteri Ponte died, his post as High Sheriff > was once again assumed by Gilbert de Kirketon, again with his son, > John(1) de Kirketon, as his Under Sheriff, which seems to have lasted > until 1246, when a new interim High Sheriff, Ralph de Nottingham took > over the post, but is believed to have continued to retain John(1) de > Kirketon in the post of Under Sheriff for an ongoing period of > several years. > > It was not until 1257 that another Robert de Veteri Ponte (with wife > Isabella, nee Fitz-Peter) assumed his family's hereditary post as > High Sheriff, at which time it seems that a son of the same John(1) > de Kirketon (above), a Gilbert(2) de Kirketon [grandson of the first > Gilbert, above] held the post of Under Sheriff (ref.: Nicholson & > Burns (1777) Vol.1, "History of Westmorland", p. 33:- > "........Gilbert de Kirketon then sheriff of Westmorland (that is, > under-sheriff to the then Robert de Veteri Ponte).....") > > I suspect that this Gilbert(2) de Kirketon was likely the grandfather > of Robert de Kirketon, mentioned in the first paragraph, and the > great-grandfather of the John(3) de Kirketon who had obtained the > Manor through his mother, Elena Burdon. > > I suspect that until this acquisition the family had lived in Appleby > fairly continuously from 1228 until about 1320. > > Does anyone know of any surviving records which might mention this > family? > > Sincerely, > > Jonathan Kirton, Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ One at a time or all at once? Get updates from your friends in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660827

Hi Will, Ancestry.ca is showing a John Brunskill, 67, born 1816 (approx. birth year of John in 1841) and his wife Agnes, 69, departing Liverpool, England, arriving Baltimore, Maryland and Halifax, Nova Scotia by ship on his way to Wyoming, USA or living there. It's unclear. I cannot access the US Ancestry at my home computer but can at our Library. If you don't find the family in England in 1851 or 1861, most likely they emigrated. Does anyone have access to Ancestry.com to check if the Brunskills emigrated to the US or Wyoming. Deborah in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brunskills" <brunskills@t-online.de> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Bampton Westmorland Brunskills > Hi Barb thanks for the reply , but the family from the 1841 census, living > in Bampton Town are as follows > > Richard BRUNSKILL, M, 60, Shoe m, Y > John BRUNSKILL, M, 25, Shoe m, Y > Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, F, 55, Y > Ann BRUNSKILL, F, 30, Y > Jane BRUNSKILL, F, 25, Y > Joseph BRUNSKILL, M, 14, Shoe m Ap, Y > Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, F, 13, Y > William BRUNSKILL, M, 7, Y > > If anyone can find them on the 1851 or 1861 census I would appreciate it. > Thanks Will Brunskill Sunny Germany > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 4:24 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Bampton Westmorland Brunskills > > >> On the 1851 Census, there is a Richard BRUNSKILL, Farmer of 6 Acres, age >> 69, >> estimated Birth Year: abt. 1782; Where born: Brough, Westmorland. He is >> with his wife, >> Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 73, estimated Birth Year: abt. 1778, b. Aisgath, >> Yorkshire, and also a relative, >> Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 12, b. abt. 1839, Brough, Westmorland >> >> They are in Stainmore, Westmorland, East Ward, Appleby >> >> If you think this is the correct family, I could send the census page >> image >> to you. >> >> The only BRUNSKILL I can see on the 1851 census, is a Thomas, age 39, b. >> abt. 1812, a Servant, b. Bampton, Westmorland, and living in Lamonby, >> Cumberland; Registration District: Penrith; sub-registration district: >> Greystoke. Thomas is a widower, Ag Lab >> >> Barb, Ontario, Canada >> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brunskills" <brunskills@t-online.de<<<<<<<< >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2125 - Release Date: 05/20/09 > 18:03:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Bronwen and David: The list for Lancashire, on which I am a member is LANCSGEN-L to join the list, send an e-mail to LANCSGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com in the subject line of your e-mail, put the word subscribe in the body of your e-mail, put the word subscribe you can contact the list administrtor at LANCSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com if you wanted to ask questions before you join. Barb, Ontario, Canada

Dear Group, I am seeking any information I can find on this manor, and the following circumstances. The manor is shown in about 1380 to have been in the possession of a John de Kirketon (or Kirton), the son of a Robert de Kirketon who had married an Elena Burdon, sister and heir of her brother, Gregory Burdon, who had previously been in possession of the manor. I suspect, and am attempting to confirm, that the above John(3) de Kirketon was a great, great, great grandson of Gilbert de Kirketon, who was interim High Sheriff of Westmorland from circa 1229, following the death of the hereditary High Sheriff, Robert de Veteri Ponte, Earl of Westmorland, in late 1227, and the fact that Robert's son and heir, John de Veteri Ponte, had still not reached his majority. Gilbert evidently continued as interim High Sheriff until 1234, when John de Veteri Ponte reached his age of majority, and assumed his father's hereditary position. From 1229 until 1234 it is believed that Gilbert de Kirketon had a younger son, John(1) de Kirketon, (as mentioned in the paragraph above) acting as his Under Sheriff. When, in 1241, John de Veteri Ponte died, his post as High Sheriff was once again assumed by Gilbert de Kirketon, again with his son, John(1) de Kirketon, as his Under Sheriff, which seems to have lasted until 1246, when a new interim High Sheriff, Ralph de Nottingham took over the post, but is believed to have continued to retain John(1) de Kirketon in the post of Under Sheriff for an ongoing period of several years. It was not until 1257 that another Robert de Veteri Ponte (with wife Isabella, nee Fitz-Peter) assumed his family's hereditary post as High Sheriff, at which time it seems that a son of the same John(1) de Kirketon (above), a Gilbert(2) de Kirketon [grandson of the first Gilbert, above] held the post of Under Sheriff (ref.: Nicholson & Burns (1777) Vol.1, "History of Westmorland", p. 33:- "........Gilbert de Kirketon then sheriff of Westmorland (that is, under-sheriff to the then Robert de Veteri Ponte).....") I suspect that this Gilbert(2) de Kirketon was likely the grandfather of Robert de Kirketon, mentioned in the first paragraph, and the great-grandfather of the John(3) de Kirketon who had obtained the Manor through his mother, Elena Burdon. I suspect that until this acquisition the family had lived in Appleby fairly continuously from 1228 until about 1320. Does anyone know of any surviving records which might mention this family? Sincerely, Jonathan Kirton, Canada

Hi, I belong also to a group, the dalesfhs, which currently has a discussion going on the Brunskill family, as follows, which I thought you might find of interest. I will leave it to you to get in touch with them. Jonathan Kirton, Canada Begin forwarded message: From: david Thomas <uwsheep@yahoo.com> Date: May 21, 2009 11:05:58 PM EDT (CA) To: dalesfhs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [dalesfhs] Lead minig Reply-To: dalesfhs@yahoogroups.com The Alpine Mine in Dubuque, Iowa, USA was at one time known as the Brunskill, Southwell and Trueb Mine (http:// www.encyclopediadubuque.org/index.php?title=MINING). The following from "The History of Dubuque County Iowa" (http:// books.google.com/books?id=aoQUAAAAYAAJ) J. Brunskill arrived in Dubuque in 1836 (page 368). Joseph Brunskill purchased the "Catfish Mills" on April 25, 1839 at Rockdale (page 473). On June 10, 1865, The Old Settlers Association was formed in Dubuque, and James Brunskill was an original member (page 410). James Brunskill served with the Union Army in the Civil War (page 419) and enlisted on Aug. 16, 1862 in Company C ot the 21st Iowa Infantry (page 428). [probably the son of Joseph Brunskill, see below.) 1860 Federal census for JULIAN TWP., DUBUQUE CO., IOWA First-last (bold print)-age-occupation (if any) and place of birth Joseph Brunskill 50 smelter England Elizabeth 48 England Margaret 15 Iowa Joseph 13 Iowa James 11 Iowa David 7 Iowa http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clark42/wc05/ wc05_162.html Joseph “Jossy” Brunskill Elizabeth “Betsy” W. Woodward m. 31 May 1871 James Woodward Brunskill Maria Frost b. 31 May 1849, Dubuque Co., Iowa d. 14 Mar 1891, age: 41 occ. Worked in Family Smelter, Farmer d. 14 Mar 1891 Children Nettie Elizabeth Brunskill Lulu Rebecca Brunskill [Died as Child] Wilbert Woodward Brunskill Edwin Joseph Brunskill Grace Maria Brunskill James William Brunskill ____________________________________ David L. Thomas 7641 Sawmill Rd. Madison, WI 53717 uwsheep@yahoo.com Eat Lamb, Wear Wool, Enjoy Sheep Milk Cheese ________________________________ From: Richard McGarry <rick_mcg@tiscali.co.uk> To: dalesfhs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:37:50 AM Subject: Re: [dalesfhs] Lead minig David Morris may be able to answer this question. In his book "The Dalesmen of the Mississippi" he tells the story of several families of lead miners, who migrated, in the mid 19th century, from Swaledale to the Great Lakes area of the U.S. For example, on page 49, he describes how the Erie Canal was opened in 1825, linking the Great Lakes with the Hudson River and New York, thus greatly facilitating the journey. William CALVERT, from Gunnerside in Swaledale, took this route in 1839, arriving at the "village" of Chicago in June, and then walked 200 miles to "New Diggings" in Wisconsin. David Morris continues :-- "... [In 1842], young William COATES, aged 9, travelled on a similar route with his parents from Swaledale, but they were shipwrecked on Lake Erie and lost all their belongings. Eventually they reached Dubuque, Iowa, where the family settled and found work in lead mining. In 1836 dalesman Joseph Brunskill and his wife are known to have followed a similar route to Cleveland, south of Lake Erie and thence to Akron, Ohio. The Brunskills later settled in Rockdale, on Catfish Creek, Ohio, south of Dubuque." And again on page 72, David Morris writes :-- "Joseph Brunskill came to America in 1833 with his wife, formerly Elizabeth WOODWARD. After working as a wood chopper and labourer in Cleveland, Ohio, for three years, he and his family moved to Dubuque. He worked as a miner for a while and then rook a partner and, in 1845, built a smelter at Rockdale, near Dubuque. This developed into an extensive business, and when he retired in 1871, he was acknowledged as a man whose ability and excellent judgment had done mush to promote the prosperity of the Dubuque area." It does seem possible that this Joseph Brunskill may have been responsible for the lead ingot found at the bottom of Lake Michigan. The Dubuque Local History Library and/or the Iowa or Wisconsin State History Libraries might have some information on his company and of ships lost on Lake Michigan. The Appendix to this book contains an excellent bibliography on this topic. Richard McGarry ============ ========= ========= ====== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Ryder" <patricia5ryder@ btinternet. com> To: <dalesfhs@yahoogroup s.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: [dalesfhs] Lead minig > The following query has been sent to the Dales museum at Hawes and I > wonder if any of our members on the e-mail group can help. > > " Die marks of lead > companies, stamped into lead by hot > irons, can still be seen on the doors of > blacksmiths' shops, (eg Gunnerside). > > Would any of them say J Brunskill 800 ??? > > I am looking for information on an old Lead Bar (?). I hope you can help. > I believe it to be made of lead but am not sure. It was found on the > bottom of Lake Michigan in the United States of America, roughly 30 years > ago. It is about 1 foot long with the words J BRUNSK ILL 800. I have > linked this name to Thomas Armstrong's novel Adam Brunskill and was hoping > you could help. Do you have any information on how mines would mark the > bars they made? I am hoping to find out how old the bar is, where it came > from, and what ship it may have been in when it sunk. Anything you can > tell me, or point me in a direction to look for more information would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thank you for your time > > Annette " > > I will forward all replies > > Regards > Pat Ryder > Wensley > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (5)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! 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Hello to all I am researching the children of Richard Brunskill and Elizabeth Winter , married approx 1806 and am curious if anyone has the 1851/ 1861 census ofr Bampton listing this family. Many thanks Will Brunskill Germany

On the 1851 Census, there is a Richard BRUNSKILL, Farmer of 6 Acres, age 69, estimated Birth Year: abt. 1782; Where born: Brough, Westmorland. He is with his wife, Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 73, estimated Birth Year: abt. 1778, b. Aisgath, Yorkshire, and also a relative, Elizabeth BRUNSKILL, age 12, b. abt. 1839, Brough, Westmorland They are in Stainmore, Westmorland, East Ward, Appleby If you think this is the correct family, I could send the census page image to you. The only BRUNSKILL I can see on the 1851 census, is a Thomas, age 39, b. abt. 1812, a Servant, b. Bampton, Westmorland, and living in Lamonby, Cumberland; Registration District: Penrith; sub-registration district: Greystoke. Thomas is a widower, Ag Lab Barb, Ontario, Canada >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brunskills" <brunskills@t-online.de<<<<<<<<

I am searching descendants of Robert Bousfield b 1677 married Mary Blacklin 9 July 1696 Any help would be appreciated

Hello Barb, Our eyes were drawn to your reunion of SARGEANT's. Are any of these your family, if so we 'THINK' we are cousins. FAMILY No 1 SARAH SERGEANT Christening: 02 MAR 1673, Bridekirk, Cumberland Father: JOHANIS SERGEANT WILLIAM ULLOCK Spouse: SARAH SERJEANT Marriage: 27 NOV 1729, Lorton, Cumberland SEARGENT ULLOCK (male) Christening: 19 MAY 1734, Lorton, Cumberland Father: WM ULLOCK WM ULLOCK Christening: 07 SEP 1736, Lorton, Cumberland Father: WM ULLOCK CATHRINE ULLOCK Christening: 06 MAY 1739, Lorton, Cumberland Father: WM ULLOCK SARAH ULLOCK Christening 24 Aug 1741 Lorton Cumberland Father WILLM ULLOCK No 2 family 1st marriage SARJENT_SARGENT ULLOCK Spouse: ELIZ SHEPHERD Marriage: 25 OCT 1755, Holy Trinity, Whitehaven DANL. ULLOCK Christening: 26 FEB 1757, Holy Trinity, Whitehaven, Cumberland Father: SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK Mother: ELIZ. WM. ULLOCK Christening: 01 OCT 1762, Holy Trinity, Whitehaven, Cumberland Father: SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK SARA. ULLOCK Christening: 01 FEB 1765, Holy Trinity, Whitehaven, Cumberland Father: SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK SARA SERJEANT Christe 1 February 1765 Holy Trinity Whitehaven Cumberland Father SERJEANT SARGENT ULLOCK JEREMIAH ULLOCK Christening: 10 MAY 1767, Maryport, Cumberland Father: SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK ELIZABETH ULLOCK Christening: 26 FEB 1778, Maryport, Cumberland Father: SARJANT_SARGENT ULLOCK JOHN ULLOCK Christening: 26 FEB 1778, Maryport, Cumberland Father: SARJANT_SARGENT ULLOCK 2nd marriage SERGEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK Spouse: ANN MC KENRICK Marriage: 25 MAY 1794, Bromfield, Cumberland THOMAS ULLOCK Christening: Abt 03 AUG 1796, Maryport, Cumberland Father: SERGEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK Mother: ANNE ANNE ULLOCK Christening: 02 AUG 1801, Maryport, Cumberland Father: SARGEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK Mother: ANNE SARAH ULLOCK Christening: 02 AUG 1801, Maryport, Cumberland Death: 24 OCT 1802 Father: SARGEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK Mother: ANNE No 3 MARY ULLOCK Christening: 27 DEC 1794, Allonby, Cumberland Father: SARGEN ULLOCK Mother: ANN JOHNSON Sarah Sargent Birth: 1691, Broughton, Cumberland Father: Henry Sargent SARAH SERJEANT birth 12 May 1770 christ 27 may 1770 Saint Peter Liverpool Lancashire father THOS SERJEANT - EXTRACTED RECORD Kind regards Bronwen and David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb Baker" <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:08 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] everythingoldisnewagainnow Link > Dear List Owner and List Members: > > Please delete the link I sent two days ago. Something didn't work > correctly when I tried to set up the site. > > I need to put things on the backburner for now, as I am preparing for a > big SARGEANT Reunion on May 31, and I am sadly behind in the preparations > ! > > I'll try again when the reunion is over. > > In the meantime, please delete the link as it is causing problems for > others. > > Thanks and Apologies. > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Bronwen and David ! Wouldn't that be lovely if we were officially cousins; but I don't think so. My SARGEANT/WARDs seem to have originated (from my story anyhow) in Colne, Essex; Clerkenwell; then Greenwich and Erith, Kent; then Canada. My facts do not go back as far as your dates; my earliest one is 1810. Sargeant is my Father's Family. My Mother's MCINTYRE/HUTCHINSON/GREGG/HEATON Family are the ones with Cumberland/Wesmorland; Liverpool; Mawdesley; Wigan; then Canada connections. I hosted the MCINTYRE Reunion here last September. I've only just realized that the descendents in Canada for both of these lines are the only ones ! In both cases, there was just one son born or one son left surviving, to carry on the SARGEANT line and the MCINTYRE line. All the more important to plan these reunions ! Thanks for your message and information (which I will tuck away just in case). "Cousin" Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Hello, does anyone have an interest in, or any knowledge of, any WHITEHEAD families at Burneside, possible Burneside Hall? I'm looking for them on behalf of a relative and the information is, at best, sketchy. There may have been members of the family in that area during WW1 or WW2. Best wishes Marjorie

Dear List Owner and List Members: Please delete the link I sent two days ago. Something didn't work correctly when I tried to set up the site. I need to put things on the backburner for now, as I am preparing for a big SARGEANT Reunion on May 31, and I am sadly behind in the preparations ! I'll try again when the reunion is over. In the meantime, please delete the link as it is causing problems for others. Thanks and Apologies. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Over the last many months, I have been collecting various entries pertaining to Cumberland and Westmorland (hoping that the Cumberland & Westmorland Archive site would become active again). Some, sent to me, are Burial entries; some are Wills; some are photos; some are documents. Today I have made a beginning at entering your contributions to a Google website. Please be patient with this "newbie"; hopefully everything will end up where it should, and very shortly. My thanks to Pauline Stanley; Susan Bergeron; Bridget Casson; William Bundred; Marion Abbott; Jonnette Lancaster; David Leverton; steve (@windebrowe); Terri Huber; Pauline Stanley; and anyone who I have not mentioned by name. IF I have missed you, please refresh my memory and my files and forgive me for doing so. http://docs.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wo# Barb, Ontario, Canada.

NOT a Cumberland or Westmorland news item, but I thought it might be interesting to some listers. B. ________________________________________________________ THE PLAGUE IN PRESTON. - The registers of the Preston Parish Church contain an entry to the following effect, in November, 1630: "Beginning of the visitation of Almighty God, the Plague." In November, 1631, there is the entry of "Plague ceased." It appears to have commenced on the 14th of November, 1630, and to have raged for twelve months, during which period the mortality was excessive. The number of burials in the month of November was 6; in December, 14; in January, 1631, 29; in February, 17; in March, 54; in April, 61; in May, 37; in June, 88; in July, 323; in August, 199; in September, 73; in October, 14, in November, the number was 12; in Dec., 6; - a total in 1631 of 951. The following are the daily burials at the church in the month of July, when the ravages were the greatest: - July 2nd, 7; 3rd, 7; 4th, 8; 5th, 13; 6th, 14; 7th, 11; 8th, 11; 9th, 6; 10th, 4; 11th 2; 12th, 5; 13th, 3; 14th, 14; 15th 14; 16th, 12; 17th, 8; 18th, 13; 19th, 13; 20th, 12; 21st, 11; 22, 9; 23rd, 15; 24th, 20; 25th, 13; 26th, 11; 27th, 13; 28th 10; 29th, 12; 30th, 12; 31st, 12; - Total, 323. During the whole of 1632, the number was only 39; in 1633, 54; 1630, (including two months when the plague was raging) 74; 1629, 66; 1628, 87. The Parish Church was then the only burial ground for the town. The population of the town, at that time, would not, we should think be much above 3,000; so that nearly a third of the population appear to have been swept away by this scourge.

And one more for luck: 1871: Richard Greenall (Vicar of Hawkeshead) abt 1830 Wilderspool, Cheshire, England Head Hawkshead, Lancashire Emily Greenall abt 1834 Ireland Wife Hawkshead, Lancashire Emily Edith Greenall abt 1860 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Hawkshead, Lancashire Arthur R Greenall abt 1864 Latchford, Cheshire, England Son Hawkshead, Lancashire Amy Helen Greenall abt 1866 Latchford, Cheshire, England Daughter Hawkshead, Lancashire > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Could anyone shed light on this couple:- >> >> FreeBMD - Marriage Sept Q 1876 at Cockermouth ref 10b 757 between Gilbert >> GREENALL and Eugenia Marie MATTIE. The district Cockermouth spans the >> boundaries of the counties of Cumbria and Cumberland >> >> The Times, Friday, Jul 28, 1876; pg. 1; Issue 28693; col A, Marriages >> On Tuesday, the 25th inst, (25 July 1876) at Crosthwaite Church, >> Cumberland, by the Rev. Thomas Greenall, Rector of Grappenhall, and the >> Rev. Richard Greenall, Vicar of Stockton Heath, Cheshire, brothers of the >> bridegroom, assisted by the Rev. Canon Gibbs, Vicar of Crosthwaite, >> GILBERT GREENALL, Esq., of Old Rectory, Grappenhall, Cheshire, to >> EUGENIE, >> MARIE, daughter of Col MATILE, Royal Malta Fencible Artillery. >> >> We cannot find their births, her parents or the 1881 census listing. >> >> Help please! >> >> Kind regards >> >> Bronwen and David

This might be of some help. Eddie 1871 census Grappenhall: Village Rectory: Thomas Greenall (Rector) abt 1824 Budworth, Cheshire, England Head Grappenhall, Cheshire Laura Sophia Greenall abt 1842 Keithorp, Yorkshire, England Wife Grappenhall, Cheshire Thomas Herbert Greenall abt 1864 Grappenhall, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Cyril Edwd Greenall abt 1867 Grappenhall, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Laura Helen Greenall abt 1870 Grappenhall, Cheshire, England Daughter Grappenhall, Cheshire Old Rectory Cottage: Helen Greenall abt 1798 MacClesfield, Cheshire, England Head Grappenhall, Cheshire Gilbert Greenall Junr. abt 1832 Wilderspool, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Plus servants In earlier censuses Gilbert is not described as junior. He was a wine merchant and was unmarried and still living with his mum at the age of 39 in 1971. Why he should be called junior when his father's name was Thomas I don't know. 1861 census Grappenhall: Rectory: Thomas Greenall (Rector) abt 1824 Appleton, Cheshire, England Head Grappenhall, Cheshire Isabella Greenall abt 1831 Appleton, Cheshire, England Sister Grappenhall, Cheshire Grappenhall Hall: Helen Greenall abt 1799 MacClesfield, Cheshire, England Head Grappenhall, Cheshire Gilbert Greenall (wine merchant) abt 1833 Appleton, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire James Greenall abt 1835 Appleton, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire John Greenall abt 1837 Appleton, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Eliza Greenall abt 1839 Appleton, Cheshire, England Daughter Grappenhall, Cheshire Frederick Greenall abt 1842 Appleton, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Plus lots of servants. 1851 census: Grappenhall Hall: Helen Greenall abt 1800 Prestbury, Cheshire, England Head Grappenhall, Cheshire Thomas Greenall (Rector of Grappenhall) abt 1824 Great Budworth, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Isabella Greenall abt 1829 Great Budworth, Cheshire, England Daughter Grappenhall, Cheshire Gilbert Greenall (listed as brewer) abt 1833 Great Budworth, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire John Greenall abt 1837 Great Budworth, Cheshire, England Son Grappenhall, Cheshire Eliza Greenall abt 1839 Great Budworth, Cheshire, England Daughter Grappenhall, Cheshire 1841 census: Wilderpool, Pt of Appleton township, Budworth: Thomas Greenall (brewer) abt 1796 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Ellen Greenall abt 1801 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Edmond Greenall abt 1821 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Ellen Greenall abt 1826 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Gilbert Greenall abt 1832 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire James Greenall abt 1834 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire John Greenall abt 1836 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Eliza Greenall abt 1839 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire Fredrick Greenall abt 1841 Cheshire, England Great Budworth, Cheshire 1861 census: Richard Greenall (Curate of Grappenhall) abt 1830 Gt Budworth, Cheshire, England Head Latchford, Cheshire Emily Greenall abt 1833 Ireland Wife Latchford, Cheshire Emily E Greenall abt 1860 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Latchford, Cheshire > > >> Hello Listers, >> >> Could anyone shed light on this couple:- >> >> FreeBMD - Marriage Sept Q 1876 at Cockermouth ref 10b 757 between Gilbert >> GREENALL and Eugenia Marie MATTIE. The district Cockermouth spans the >> boundaries of the counties of Cumbria and Cumberland >> >> The Times, Friday, Jul 28, 1876; pg. 1; Issue 28693; col A, Marriages >> On Tuesday, the 25th inst, (25 July 1876) at Crosthwaite Church, >> Cumberland, by the Rev. Thomas Greenall, Rector of Grappenhall, and the >> Rev. Richard Greenall, Vicar of Stockton Heath, Cheshire, brothers of the >> bridegroom, assisted by the Rev. Canon Gibbs, Vicar of Crosthwaite, >> GILBERT GREENALL, Esq., of Old Rectory, Grappenhall, Cheshire, to >> EUGENIE, >> MARIE, daughter of Col MATILE, Royal Malta Fencible Artillery. >> >> We cannot find their births, her parents or the 1881 census listing. >> >> Help please! >> >> Kind regards >> >> Bronwen and David