Hello List! It's good to be back after a few years off!! Diving into my grandmother's lineage a little further. I'd love to hear from others researching in the area and finding living relatives. Here's the family: Robert Cookson Head, b. 7 Dec 1848(Ambleside), m. Jun qtr 1877, d. 16 Nov 1938 (Barrow) Harriett Upstone (first wife), b. ~1849 Leafield, d. Jun qtr 1887(Westmorland) Children: both born Ambleside Charles Edward U.? Cookson, b Dec qtr 1879, married Annie Stables?? Harriet Louisa Cookson, b Dec qtr 1881 Second wife Sarah Mary Crook, b. 7 May 1858(Lancaster), m. 24 Jan 1894(Ambleside), d. 14 Oct 1935(Barrow). Children: May Cookson, b. Jun qtr 1895 Emma Cookson, b. 29 Dec 1899(Ambleside), m. 24 Sep 1923(Barrow), d. 15 Dec 1983(USA) Priorities: May Cookson - grand aunt - believed married once but didn't last long. Lived most of her life in Yorkshire; was a buyer for a large store in Sheffield? Charles and his wife Ann or Annie - owned or ran a pub in Hawcoat, Charles died in the 1940s. I have nothing on Annie. Harriet Louisa Cookson - possible marriage to Thomas Brunton Dec qtr 1911(posting to this surname list also). Any and all help/discussion/direction would be greatly appreciated! I'll be ordering certificates tomorrow. Cheers! Mike Kendall Albuquerque, NM USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009

Hello Judy, Have just seen your email. I have the whole poem. I do not have it here at home but it is in my History Room up the road in Warcop, Cumbria. where I live. Where do you live and I could photo copy for you tomorrow. . or I could type it out here. Cheers, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > This is really good. I lived so you could see when the Helm Wind was about > to blow because of the cloud formation over the Pennines. We got the tail > end of it and could hear it blowing. See this web site for an explanation. > http://www.dufton.org.uk/the_helm_bar.htm > > > There is a poem about Dufton that mentions it which I have been trying to > trace. It was in my mother's Dufton WI Cookery book from around 1950 or > before. I can't think where that cookery book went too - it was well used. > > The poem started something like this:-- > > Thou's nivver heard o' Dufton > Where'st a lived afore > It ligs right under Dufton Pike, > Thou'll see it fra t' old barn door. > > It went on to say about the helm wind and has quite a few verses. > > If any one can locate this and can send me a copy I would be really > grateful. > > Judy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker > Sent: 29 May 2009 23:46 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > Hello Audrey: > > Well, I had NEVER heard of Helm Winds in my life. But now I know. > hahahahaha. > > Barb. > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > From: <GenTrees1974@aol.com<<<<<< > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/29/09 > 06:28:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

search for "Full Text Round The Lake Country" (don't use the quote marks) it's from Toronto, Canada. I gave you what I could see as the adress, but then the eys don't work like they used too. it's over 150 pages. let me know if you can't find it, I'll keep on it till you get it. John, Maine, South of you some where. Barb Baker wrote: > Thanks for this, John. I couldn't seem to connect with the link you sent > though (?) > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> > From: "John Davidson" <jdavidson@gwi.net<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks for this, John. I couldn't seem to connect with the link you sent though (?) Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Davidson" <jdavidson@gwi.net<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Thank you so much Michael. I would just love to read that poem and hope you will post it here (please, please, please!) since Judy so kindly tantalized us with the snippet she could remember . . . Helen -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker Sent: May 30, 2009 4:57 PM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Ooooo Hope you type it up and post it here; I'd love to read it ! Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gregson" <michael-gregson@telinco.co.uk<<<<<<<<<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ooooo Hope you type it up and post it here; I'd love to read it ! Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gregson" <michael-gregson@telinco.co.uk<<<<<<<<<<<<

This is really good. I lived so you could see when the Helm Wind was about to blow because of the cloud formation over the Pennines. We got the tail end of it and could hear it blowing. See this web site for an explanation. http://www.dufton.org.uk/the_helm_bar.htm There is a poem about Dufton that mentions it which I have been trying to trace. It was in my mother's Dufton WI Cookery book from around 1950 or before. I can't think where that cookery book went too - it was well used. The poem started something like this:-- Thou's nivver heard o' Dufton Where'st a lived afore It ligs right under Dufton Pike, Thou'll see it fra t' old barn door. It went on to say about the helm wind and has quite a few verses. If any one can locate this and can send me a copy I would be really grateful. Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker Sent: 29 May 2009 23:46 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hello Audrey: Well, I had NEVER heard of Helm Winds in my life. But now I know. hahahahaha. Barb. >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <GenTrees1974@aol.com<<<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/29/09 06:28:00

Barb Baker wrote: Loved the music. tried to find the poem Judy Mentioned, Didn't find it, But found a web sight of interest http//www.archive.org/stream/roundlakecounty00rawnuoft/roundlakecounty00 that has history, stories, poems of the lakes area. Thanks for all you do, Best regards, John Davidson > Hope you enjoy watching and listening to this, as much as I did ! > > http://www.musicalcomedy.co.uk/video/190/Helm-Blues > > Barb Baker > Ontario, Canada. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Judy: I've looked at a Google search, but have come up 'empty'. BUT, I've sent an inquiry through to a chap on the Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegroups.com List to see if he knows of any poem which you have described. My feeling is that he will find something for you ! Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Hello Helen: You are very welcome. I'm glad that Terry Alderson sent it to me, quite a while ago. Thanks Terry !! Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank and Helen Mott" <fandhmott@personainternet.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com<<<<<

I could have sworn I heard my uncle's voice there - except his "brogue/dialect" would have been much thicker! Quite something isn't it? Thanks so much for sending the link Barb, I really enjoyed it. Helen -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker Sent: May 29, 2009 8:44 AM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hope you enjoy watching and listening to this, as much as I did ! http://www.musicalcomedy.co.uk/video/190/Helm-Blues Barb Baker Ontario, Canada. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Audrey: Well, I had NEVER heard of Helm Winds in my life. But now I know. hahahahaha. Barb. >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <GenTrees1974@aol.com<<<<<<

Thanks Barb, Have passed the address on to friends who I know will appreciate it. My grandmother used to talk about the helm winds - I wish I had paid more attention. Regards AudreyM. nee Miskelly In Cumbria http://www.musicalcomedy.co.uk/video/190/Helm-Blues

You are welcome. But the thanks really should go to Terry Alderson; he sent it to me a while back, and I just remembered to send it to the List. Glad you enjoyed it, Art. I certainly did ! Barb, Ontario, Canada. <<<<<<----- Original Message ----- From: "Art Faint" <ajfaint@earthlink.net>>>>>>>

Barb, that was really ourstanding. Many thanks. Art in New Hampshire, USA Barb Baker wrote: >Hope you enjoy watching and listening to this, as much as I did ! > >http://www.musicalcomedy.co.uk/video/190/Helm-Blues > >Barb Baker >Ontario, Canada. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hope you enjoy watching and listening to this, as much as I did ! http://www.musicalcomedy.co.uk/video/190/Helm-Blues Barb Baker Ontario, Canada.

Hello Listers, SORRY THE NAMES ON THE PREVIOUS E-MAIL WERE SPELT INCORRECTLY Can anyone advise us please. We have a Rob / Robert Hullock / ULLOCK born on 12 August 1805 in Grange. This is listed in a family Bible but we cannot find the birth or the earlier link. We have other family members born in and around Flookbrugh, Cartmel, Grange over Sands and Fishwick. Questions 1 - Which record office is most likely to have details of this birth please? OUR BRICK WALL - We need the parents names! 2 - Which County is the birth in at the time is it Lancashire or Westmorland. Many Thanks Bronwen and David

Hello Leisters, Can anyone advise us please. We have a Rob / Robert Hillock / Bullock / Unlocked born on 12 August 1805 in Grange. This is listed in a family Bible but we cannot find the birth or the earlier link. We have other family members born in and around Flookbrugh, Cartmel, Grange over Sands and Fishwick. Questions 1 - Which record office is most likely to have details of this birth please? OUR BRICK WALL - We need the parents names! 2 - Which County is the birth in at the time is it Lancashire or Westmorland. Many Thanks Bronwen and David

Hello Listers, We are totally stuck on this link to our family. Can anyone help us with further details please. Sarah ULLOCK we believe born 16 Dec 1764 at Coniston Whitehaven Lancashire. We believe she had five illegitimate children as follows:- 1 - Mary ULLOCK b 16 Nov 1787 born Cartmel Grange Lancashire - no further issue found. 2 - James ULLOCK b 26 Feb 1793 born Cartmel Grange Lancashire we believe he married a Deborah Lonsdale on 1 Sept 1782 at Burnley Lancashire - no further issue found 3 - Atkinson ULLOCK / YOULOCK born 19 March 1797 Cartmel Grange Lancashire married Isabella MILLER on 27 Nov 1818 at St John Preston Lancashire they had 6 children. 4 - Matthew ULLOCK b 21 Oct 1801 born Cartmel Grange Lancashire and died 22 Oct 1802 mother from CARK 5 - Robert ULLOCK / HUGHLOCK b 12 Aug 1805 Flookbrugh Chapelry Cartmel Grange Lancashire married Elizabeth Turner 7 March 1827 at St Leonards Middleton Oldham Lancashire they had 8 children and started the spelling to our name - HUGHLOCK. many thanks Bronwen and David

Hello Will in Germany: Did you notice on the 1841 Census for the BRUSKILL (without the "N") family, that Elizabeth's mother is with them ? Jane WINTER, age 90, Independent, born in county. Barb, Ontario, Canada.