With thanks to David Leverton (on the Rootsweb/Westmorland List) for transcribing these, I have uploaded his transcriptions of the Deaths A to Z from the Ambleside Herald newspaper 1880 to end of 1885. There are many other articles from the Ambleside Herald which have been transcribed by David, and which will be uploaded to the CUMBERLAND & WESTMORLAND NEWSPAPER TRANSCRIPTIONS site, as time permits. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald April 30, 1881 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, held in Mechanics Institute A general sitting of this court was held in the Mechanics Institute on Thursday last - 2 adjourned cases, 71 original, 3 adjourned commitment, 7 original commitment summonses. The undisputed cases were disposed of by the registrar, Geo. GATEY, Esq. Solicitors: Mr. W. Hopes HEELIS, Ambleside and Hawkshead; Mr. H. DOBSON, Bowness and Kendal; Mr. R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; Mr. Isaac LOWTHIAN, Keswick; Mr. OGLETHORPE, Lancaster. W. GREENHOW vs W. GREGG W. GREGG, farmer, Langdale sued by W. GREENHOW, innkeeper of Hornby near Lancaster for £6 being at the rate of £2 each for 3 sheep. Mr. OGLETHORPE for the plaintiff Mr. W. Hopes HEELIS for defendant Mr. GREENHOW maintained that he sold the sheep to Mr. GREGG; and the defence was that the sheep were not bought by the defendant as alleged and that plaintiff left them on GREGG's farm against his wish. W. GREENHOW formerly held a farm under Mr. JONES which he left on May day 1878 leaving many of the sheep to the incoming tenant (defendant) at the agreed price of £2 each. Of these three were never paid for and not returned. No bill had been sent for sheep. Mr. HEELIS thought a counter claim for "pasturing, washing, salving and shepherding" the sheep from 12th May 1878 to 13th January 1881 for £6 10s should be entered. Verdict for defence. John HARRISON vs Isaac WILLIAMS John HARRISON, farmer, Langdale claim for £2 12s 6d for carting work done for defendant in the way of removing rubbish etc. from the quarry. Claim admitted, but a counter claim of £1 2s 6d is disputed as this was for 3 days labour when only one done. Adjourned for more evidence. Mrs. Emily YOUNG vs George DALSTON, both reside at Grasmere. Mrs. YOUNG suing Mr. DALSTON, butcher for £3 15s. Defendant said that in June 1880 he bought five sheep from plaintiff at £1 5s, but received two sheep and three lambs, whereas they all ought to have been sheep. Plaintiff claimed no sheep were bought. The judge made an order for the amount claimed to be paid, and advised the defendant to claim what he thought the difference was at the next county court by summoning the plaintiff. Ambleside Lakes Herald July 2, 1881 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM A sitting of this court was held in the Mechanics Institute on Thursday last - 6 adjourned cases, 76 original, 4 adjourned commitment summonses, 2 original summonses and 1 scire facias cause. The undisputed cases were disposed of by the registrar, Geo. Gatey, Esq. HARRISON vs WILLIAMS Adjourned from last court. H.D. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness, for plaintiff W.H. HEELIS, Ambleside and Hawkshead for defendant. Claim for £2 12s 6d for carting work done. A setoff was filed by Williams to the amount 12s 6d for supply of stones and £3 10s for breach of contract for a total of £4 2s 6d. The case took considerable time in hearing and eventually the Judge gave a verdict to plaintiff for £2 and costs. William BELL vs Bennett JOHNS William BELL, joiner and builder of Coniston sued Bennett JOHNS, farmer of Dixon Ground and Hawes Bank for £5 5s 3d, balance of a joiner's bill for work done. W.H. HEELIS for plaintiff Dispute over terms of agreement. Adjourned to hear evidence of Mr. GREEN, agent for property. A.W. SHEPHERD vs E. REED A.W. SHEPHERD, a gentleman residing at Windermere sued E. REED of the same neighbourhood for £5 on account of a dog. SHEPHERD gave the dog to Mr. HULLY provided he (SHEPHERD) could use it when wanted for hunting. HULLY then transferred the dog to REED on the same understanding, but REED sold the dog, hence the current action. Verdict for defendant intimating that as the dog had been given, plaintiff had no real claim on it. Defendant inquired as to costs, but Judge thought as £1 had been realized by sale of dog he ought to be satisfied and refused to grant them. David Leverton

although I am not related to any of the individuals listed in these two court record extracts (save possibly John Atkinson), I find such records choice. here is something to give one an idea of the culture and times of our forefathers, something names and dates cannot hope to do. I have also enjoyed the use of the Proceeds of the Old Bailey, and actually found a very distant relative the victim of theft in two incidents in these records, one of which we would consider very petty theft, yet in both cases the criminal was transported. are there other extracts/transcripts of legal papers available online? I am particularly interested in Westmoreland, Yorkshire, Essex and Suffolk, but to some extent, London, Middlesex and Surrey as well. regards, Cornelia BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Sat 1:00 AM , eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com sent: Today's Topics: 1. Ambleside County Court December 1880 and February 1881 (David Leverton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:51:05 -0700 From: David Leverton Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ambleside County Court December 1880 and February 1881 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [2] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Links: ------ [1] mailto:ulpha@telus.net [2] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:jlfi255vjc0sabs6a33paip72vqbms9ae2@4ax.com

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald December 25, 1880 Thursday before T. INGHAM, in Mechanics Institute A sitting of this court was held in the Mechanics Institute on Thursday last - 2 adjourned cases, 63 original, 2 adjourned commitment, 15 original commitment. The majority of the above were disposed of by the registrar (G. GATEY, Esq.). John Birkett FORREST, Troutbeck, yeoman; George BROWN, Townend, Troutbeck, yeoman; John ATKINSON, Bowness, draper. Mr. J.T. BOWNASS, Windermere for the petitioners, the executors and the trustees under the will of William SUART, deceased Mr. J. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness, on behalf of himself and Mr. HAYTON. Concerning an affidavit filed 9th November 1880 by Thomas Benson SUART, Bowness, basketmaker to draw a fund of £105 18s 2d from the court in connection with the will of William SUART who died 14-Mar-1869 leaving a will dated 22nd February 1869 in which he bequeathed the residue of his estate to four brothers and one sister, which was divided in 1872 with the exception of the share to Robert SUART, gone to Australia and not heard of for fourteen years. Mr. BOWNASS urged that so far as the law was concerned a man was considered dead if not heard of for seven years and his estate would go to next of kin. The judge said a proof was wanted to show he was dead. Mr. DOBSON said he had no objection to funds being withdrawn. Judge allowed petition. Wm. FOFAR sued John HARTLEY for wages in assisting in the Windermere fete in a case adjourned from last court. Judgement in favour of FOFAR for 7s 6d. Ambleside Lakes Herald February 26, 1881 Tuesday before T.H. INGHAM in Mechanics Institute A sitting of this court was held in the Mechanics Institute on Thursday last - 3 adjourned cases, 46 original, 4 adjourned commitment, 2 original commitment. The undisputed cases were disposed of by the registrar, Geo. GATEY, Esq. Solicitors present: Messrs. R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; J.B. WILSON, Kendal; G. LOWTHIAN, Keswick; W.H. HEELIS, Hawkshead and Ambleside; J. DOBSON, Kendal. Registrar: Geo. Gatey Richard HUDSON v John FOTHERGILL Jury: Joseph BELL, John COATES, William DIXON, Thomas DIXON, and R.P. HUNTER. Defendant: John FOTHERGILL, lodging house keeper, Grasmere. Plaintiff and defendant are half brothers. Plaintiff: Mr. Richard HUDSON, landlord of Rothay Hotel, Grasmere - claim consisted of 4 disputed charges on a bill amounting to £219 12s 9d. The money sought was £30 for rent May Day 1878 to May Day 1879 in connection with the Red Lion Hotel, Hawkshead; £30 which was borrowed from Mr. HUDSON; £3 3s for the loan of 2 horses, 2 carts and a man for three days (2nd, 3rd & 4th May 1878); and £10 for three months hire of a pair of horses, a waggonette, a cart and harness (May - August 1878). Plaintiff had deducted £18 3s 5d from the amount to bring it within the jurisdiction of the court. Plaintiff had purchased the Red Lion Hotel in March 1878 for £1700. FOTHERGILL had paid £50 rent in August 1878. Mrs. Jane FOTHERGILL (defendant's wife) and Edmund WALKER examined to prove money had been paid to Mr. HUDSON. Verdict for defendant with the exception of £6 17s to be paid to the plaintiff. STEPHENSON vs COLE Claim of £50 for cattle supplied - adjourned GREENHOW vs GREEN Claim of £6 for 3 sheep - adjourned to allow counter suit to be filed. HIGGINS vs HORNBY Claim of £3 5s for rent Verdict for plaintiff Trustee of E.J. BREWSTER vs HORNBY Claim of £9 16s 9d for goods supplied Verdict for plaintiff David Leverton

DUFTON AND KNOCK PARISH CHURCH COOKERY BOOK. DEIGHTON, H. (introductory poem). Dufton, 1948. Original wrappers, a little soiled. Pp. 98, with frontispiece of St.Cuthbert's Church and a full-page dialect poem about Dufton. per http://www.ilab.org/db/detail.php?booknr=327624489 -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jeffrey Sent: 03 June 2009 16:16 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hi David, I don't know anything about the author. I only know that the poem was in my mother's 'Dufton Cookery Book' from around the 1940's or 50's so it could very well be the same person. I have an idea that the cookery book was a WI one and I should love to get hold of a copy if anyone knows where there is one. Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Foster Sent: 03 June 2009 15:58 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Thank you for reproducing the poem & its translation. Would you know if the author H. Deighton is the same Harold Deighton who was born in Dufton Hall & wrote to "Beacon" of the Penrith Observer in 1953 with a very brief history of the Hall? David Foster ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, Check out the site below ... http://www.ilab.org/db/detail.php?booknr=327624489 Pat Otterberg, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > Hi David, > I don't know anything about the author. I only know that the poem was in > my > mother's 'Dufton Cookery Book' from around the 1940's or 50's so it could > very well be the same person. I have an idea that the cookery book was a > WI > one and I should love to get hold of a copy if anyone knows where there is > one. > > Judy

Hi David, I don't know anything about the author. I only know that the poem was in my mother's 'Dufton Cookery Book' from around the 1940's or 50's so it could very well be the same person. I have an idea that the cookery book was a WI one and I should love to get hold of a copy if anyone knows where there is one. Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Foster Sent: 03 June 2009 15:58 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Thank you for reproducing the poem & its translation. Would you know if the author H. Deighton is the same Harold Deighton who was born in Dufton Hall & wrote to "Beacon" of the Penrith Observer in 1953 with a very brief history of the Hall? David Foster

Thank you for reproducing the poem & its translation. Would you know if the author H. Deighton is the same Harold Deighton who was born in Dufton Hall & wrote to "Beacon" of the Penrith Observer in 1953 with a very brief history of the Hall? David Foster -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Judy Jeffrey Sent: 03 June 2009 13:30 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Dear All, Michael has now sent me the poem and I have typed it out for the list. It has less in about the helm wind than I remembered but it is a real dialect gem. I have also included an interpretation. If any of you locals think some of the words are not quite interpreted right then let me know. It sent my spell check into overdrive! Thanks to Michael for sending it and I hope you all enjoy it! Judy. Where's Dufton? Thoo's nivver hard o' Dufton? Wy - where's ta leeved afoor? It ligs reet under Dufton Pike Thoo'll see't fra t'auld barn door. It's a gay queer spot is Dufton, An' t' fwoak inside an o'. The'r treble independent like An' hard as that stean wo! It thoo iver gaas ta Dufton, Thoo'd better mind thisel, Thoo'd nivver see thi hat again If t'winds blowan straight of t'fell. Th'r' nin se' daft at Dufton, If yan's gitten owt ta sell, Oooivver - thoo mun larn like me - Ah's nut inclined to tell. It's t' bonniest spot in t' country, Fer o' it stands se' heigh, Aye, an' visitors i' hundreds Gads theer way up fra t' sea. Yon Pike seems varra laal fra here But just thee try ta' clim; Afoor lang yan's oot o' puff An t' sweet runs off thi' chin. By Gum! But when yan gits ta' t' top - (If it's owt sek like a day) - Thoo'l see fer ower thirty miles, Aye, an vanner ivvery way. Oh, aye, the'r varra decent fwoak An terrible kind as weel, Ooor missus co' fra Dufton toon An' that ses quite a deal. In Dufton Kirk ya Wissundah, At hoof past yan bet' clock, We tweah war wed amang oour frens Frae Dufton an' fra Knock. Thou mun git a lass frae Dufton An' deeah as weel as me, She'll mak o' sooarts o'stuff ta eat, Like "Berry Keeak" for tea. Apple Dumplins an' Reubarb tarts Yearb puddin', Pez Puddin' an' sek, Wi' Treacle Taffy an' Brandy Snaps, An' hyam-meayde wines to lep. Ah nind (?mind) ya' clashy winters' neet, Twas stoor an' dife an' o------ But gan an git thi ten-o-clocks - Ah dunt tell aw ah kno. H. Deighton. Where's Dufton? (Interpretation) You've never heard of Dufton? Why - where have you lived before? It lies right under Dufton Pike You'll see it from the old barn door. It's a right funny spot is Dufton, And the people inside as well, They are terrible independent like And as hard as that stone wall. If you ever go to Dufton, You had better mind yourself You would never see your hat again If the wind is blowing straight off the fell (mountain). They are non so daft at Dufton If one's got anything to sell, However - you must learn like me - I'm not inclined to tell. It's the prettiest spot in the country, Even though it stands so high, Yes, and visitors in hundreds Wander their way up from the sea That Pike (Hill/small Mountain) seems very small from here But just you try to climb: Before long you are out of breath And the sweat runs off your chin. By Gum! But when you get to the top- (If it is anything like such a day) - You will see for over thirty miles, Yes and nearly every way. Oh! yes, they are very decent folk, And terrible kind as well, My wife comes from Dufton town, And that says quite a lot. In Dufton Church one Wednesday, At half past one by the clock, We two were wed among our friends >From Dufton and from Knock. You must get a girl from Dufton And do as well as me, She'll make all sorts of stuff to eat, Like Berry Cake for tea. Apple Dumplings and Rhubarb tarts Herb Pudding; Pease Pudding and such, With Treacle Toffee and Brandy Snaps And homemade wines to drink. I am reminded of a severe winter's night, It was terrible weather and drifts and all .............................. But go and get your ten-o-clocks - I don't tell all I know. Interpretation of H. Deighton's poem by Judy Jeffrey. 4th June 2009 -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gregson Sent: 30 May 2009 21:16 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hello Judy, Have just seen your email. I have the whole poem. I do not have it here at home but it is in my History Room up the road in Warcop, Cumbria. where I live. Where do you live and I could photo copy for you tomorrow. . or I could type it out here. Cheers, Michael ----- Original Message ----- 30/09 05:53:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Oh! Oh! I have seen 2 spelling mistakes in the Dufton poem despite reading through it before I sent it!! First one is in verse 3 I have put 'It thoo ivver gaas to Dufton'. First word should read 'If'. Second mistake is in the last verse. Twas stoor an' dife an' o........ 'dife' should read 'drife' Judy

Dear All, Michael has now sent me the poem and I have typed it out for the list. It has less in about the helm wind than I remembered but it is a real dialect gem. I have also included an interpretation. If any of you locals think some of the words are not quite interpreted right then let me know. It sent my spell check into overdrive! Thanks to Michael for sending it and I hope you all enjoy it! Judy. Where's Dufton? Thoo's nivver hard o' Dufton? Wy - where's ta leeved afoor? It ligs reet under Dufton Pike Thoo'll see't fra t'auld barn door. It's a gay queer spot is Dufton, An' t' fwoak inside an o'. The'r treble independent like An' hard as that stean wo! It thoo iver gaas ta Dufton, Thoo'd better mind thisel, Thoo'd nivver see thi hat again If t'winds blowan straight of t'fell. Th'r' nin se' daft at Dufton, If yan's gitten owt ta sell, Oooivver - thoo mun larn like me - Ah's nut inclined to tell. It's t' bonniest spot in t' country, Fer o' it stands se' heigh, Aye, an' visitors i' hundreds Gads theer way up fra t' sea. Yon Pike seems varra laal fra here But just thee try ta' clim; Afoor lang yan's oot o' puff An t' sweet runs off thi' chin. By Gum! But when yan gits ta' t' top - (If it's owt sek like a day) - Thoo'l see fer ower thirty miles, Aye, an vanner ivvery way. Oh, aye, the'r varra decent fwoak An terrible kind as weel, Ooor missus co' fra Dufton toon An' that ses quite a deal. In Dufton Kirk ya Wissundah, At hoof past yan bet' clock, We tweah war wed amang oour frens Frae Dufton an' fra Knock. Thou mun git a lass frae Dufton An' deeah as weel as me, She'll mak o' sooarts o'stuff ta eat, Like "Berry Keeak" for tea. Apple Dumplins an' Reubarb tarts Yearb puddin', Pez Puddin' an' sek, Wi' Treacle Taffy an' Brandy Snaps, An' hyam-meayde wines to lep. Ah nind (?mind) ya' clashy winters' neet, Twas stoor an' dife an' o------ But gan an git thi ten-o-clocks - Ah dunt tell aw ah kno. H. Deighton. Where's Dufton? (Interpretation) You've never heard of Dufton? Why - where have you lived before? It lies right under Dufton Pike You'll see it from the old barn door. It's a right funny spot is Dufton, And the people inside as well, They are terrible independent like And as hard as that stone wall. If you ever go to Dufton, You had better mind yourself You would never see your hat again If the wind is blowing straight off the fell (mountain). They are non so daft at Dufton If one's got anything to sell, However - you must learn like me - I'm not inclined to tell. It's the prettiest spot in the country, Even though it stands so high, Yes, and visitors in hundreds Wander their way up from the sea That Pike (Hill/small Mountain) seems very small from here But just you try to climb: Before long you are out of breath And the sweat runs off your chin. By Gum! But when you get to the top- (If it is anything like such a day) - You will see for over thirty miles, Yes and nearly every way. Oh! yes, they are very decent folk, And terrible kind as well, My wife comes from Dufton town, And that says quite a lot. In Dufton Church one Wednesday, At half past one by the clock, We two were wed among our friends >From Dufton and from Knock. You must get a girl from Dufton And do as well as me, She'll make all sorts of stuff to eat, Like Berry Cake for tea. Apple Dumplings and Rhubarb tarts Herb Pudding; Pease Pudding and such, With Treacle Toffee and Brandy Snaps And homemade wines to drink. I am reminded of a severe winter's night, It was terrible weather and drifts and all .............................. But go and get your ten-o-clocks - I don't tell all I know. Interpretation of H. Deighton's poem by Judy Jeffrey. 4th June 2009 -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gregson Sent: 30 May 2009 21:16 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hello Judy, Have just seen your email. I have the whole poem. I do not have it here at home but it is in my History Room up the road in Warcop, Cumbria. where I live. Where do you live and I could photo copy for you tomorrow. . or I could type it out here. Cheers, Michael ----- Original Message ----- 30/09 05:53:00

What a fabulous poem! Thanks so much to Michael for providing the text and for Judy's kind assistance in sending us the words - and, for her translation. I'm going to try to read it to my family; however I'm not certain that I could still pull off the pronunciation to do it proper justice. I must send the text to an uncle who now lives in Australia and get him to read it to me in one of his calls to keep in touch! I'm sure he will be delighted to do so as once upon a time (in what seems like the dim and distant past) he would "lapse" into the local speech just to get me and my two brothers going (i.e. wind us up!). I think we were sure he was speaking another language - a truly impressive state of affairs for my two Canadian-born brothers who would have been about 6 and 7 at the time of our prolonged stay in the land of my birth. Thanks for the memories! Helen -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Jeffrey Sent: June 3, 2009 8:30 AM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Dear All, Michael has now sent me the poem and I have typed it out for the list. It has less in about the helm wind than I remembered but it is a real dialect gem. I have also included an interpretation. If any of you locals think some of the words are not quite interpreted right then let me know. It sent my spell check into overdrive!

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald July 24, 1880 Page 4 Thursday before Judge INGHAM Remand from last court: Wm. LEWIS vs John EDMONSON Mrs. WALKER, who cleaned the institute, gave evidence that plaintiff had attended there. Mr. DOBSON for defendant said they would consent to a judgement without costs which was agreed to. TYSON vs William Taylor SHAW Claim against William Taylor SHAW for a suit of clothes bought in 1876 from plaintiff. Claims he never bought the clothes. Plaintiff admitted he was unable to identify the man. Case dismissed. PENNINGTON vs MARR To recover £1 7s 8d due on some bags of flour supplied to defendant. Defendant had kept the flour for some months, then found it to be bad, so he refused to pay and plaintiff would not take the flour back. Judgement: Defendant should not have kept the flour for so long. He must pay the amount at 4s a month. YOUNG vs. DRINKWATER The plaintiff who lives at Preston suing defendant for 11s 1d for some bedding Defendant denied receiving the goods. Case adjourned to enable plaintiff to bring person who delivered the goods. Ambleside Lakes Herald October 16, 1880 Tuesday before T.H. INGHAM A sitting of this court was held in the Mechanics Institute on Tuesday last when 85 cases were entered - 64 new ones, 3 adjourned, 10 adjourned judgement summonses and 8 original ones. The undefended ones were disposed of by the registrar, Geo. GATEY, Esq. There were two defended cases. John FOFAR a bill poster of Bowness vs John HARTLEY, a confectioner of Windermere FORFAR sought to recover 15s wages due him for assisting Mr. HARTLEY in fixing tents etc. in preparation for the boat race and fete at Harrowslack which was held a few months ago. Mr. HARTLEY said he only engaged plaintiff on one day, which was the day of the fete. Plaintiff intimated to the judge that he was an old sailor, and he could produce a witness to prove he worked more than one day for the defendant. Joseph BINNS appeared on behalf of plaintiff and asserted that he was assisting Mr. FOFAR on the days in question and both were employed by Mr. HARTLEY. He was paid. He heard defendant say to FOFAR on the Saturday night, that he would be wanted on the Monday, and he was to bring his bell. Mr. HARTLEY did not dispute engaging him for the Monday, but denied employing him for any other day. For that day Forfar had charged him 5s, also 2s for the bell and 3s for the loan of a boat. He also said that plaintiff was in liquor and had helped himself to port wine and lemonade to the value of 4s 2d. On the fete day his head waiter asked him if he had given plaintiff permission to claim any entrance fees from people landing by boat on the field, as a gentleman had told him he saw him take 6s in this manner. He would ask the judge to adjourn the case so that he might procure witnesses to prove his statement. Donald FERGUSON vs Robinson CASSON W.H. HEELIS of Ambleside and Hawkshead for plaintiff who sought to recover £3 2s paid to defendant for a watch. It appeared that CASSON had promised to supply FERGUSON with a watch warranted for three years; but on receiving it, the watch would not go, so, he accepted the watch back again and promised to supply him with a silver chronometer lever. He had tried to put several of an inferior make on the plaintiff which he of course, refused to accept. Defendant maintained that when he supplied him with the watch, he said it was just the one he wanted. He (FERGUSON) was going to pay him by instalments. The judge stated that if defendant did not supply plaintiff with a watch according to the description he promised, within three days, he would make an order for the full amount. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald March 27, 1880 Page 2 Wednesday 23rd inst. before Judge INGHAM There were 109 cases comprised of 1 adjourned, 98 original (including 3 defended cases), 5 adjourned commitment, and 5 original commitment Edward SPEIGHT vs James WEST Action by Edward SPEIGHT of Windermere for damages of £10.18 upon James WEST of Liverpool. Mr. J.T. BOWNASS, solicitor for the plaintiff Mr. R.F. THOMPSON for defendant Plaintiff had purchased two houses in Windermere from defendant in 1875, understanding that they were properly drained. Plaintiff since found that they had been connected without consent and had to go to the expense of having them properly drained. Judgement for the defendant. Robert RAWSTHORNE vs Jonathan ADDISON Robert RAWSTHORNE, farmer, Over Stavely claimed £10 for damages to his pasture land by sheep belonging to Jonathan ADDISON of Kentmere. Mr. W.H. HEELIS, solicitor for the plaintiff Mr. R.F. THOMPSON for defendant Plaintiff said the fence between defendant and plaintiff belonged to Mr. ADDISON and had seven gaps in it which plaintiff told defendant about some time in January. It was rough weather at the time but defendant said he would put rails up. Plaintiff's allotment is 51 acres rented at £35 per year. Robert LINTH, farmer, witness and resident near the farm - had seen defendant's sheep on plaintiff's land three times and noticed on March 4 that rails had been put up. Defendant said he had been notified of the fence being down on January 1. He had railed the fence, removed his sheep and tried to be neighbourly. Edward BIRKETT witness for the defence. He had assisted defendant in putting up rails but could not say when rails were put up. Judgement: Pay costs and go home friends. Ambleside Lakes Herald May 15, 1880 Page 5 Thursday before Judge INGHAM The cases before the court were - 2 adjourned, 28 original, 2 adjourned commitment and 8 original commitment summonses. PALMER, MARTIN and BROCKLEBANK vs Geo. THOMPSON Concerning a debt of £17 1s 10d. The sum of £13 had been paid on account and it was the wish of the parties to obtain an architect to value the building which was the cause of the debt. Mr. DOBSON for defendant. Plaintiff has proposed Mr. BENTLEY of Kendal, but defendant objected, contending that BENTLEY was an interested party. Finally decided that Mr. WALKER of Kendal should act as arbitrator. Wm. LEWIS vs John EDMONSON Wm. LEWIS sued John EDMONSON of Bowness for 6s due for writing lessons given. Mr. DOBSON for defence. Plaintiff had opened a writing class in the Literary Institute, for young men which the defendant had joined, but plaintiff closed the class before completing the contract. Agreement was that plaintiff was to give six lessons to Mr. EDMONSON's two sons and if they did not pay he would. Defendant said he was to pay 5s 6d for six lessons but claimed he only got 4 lessons. Two of Mr. HARRISON's sons had taken the lessons at a beerhouse where plaintiff lodged as they were unable to attend at the institute. Defendant had been asked to go to Crook for lessons, but he said he was a teetotaller and would not go to a beerhouse. John HARRISON, a pupil of plaintiff called as a witness said course was not finished according to the contract. Case Adjourned. David Leverton

Dear Judy, In answer to you first email. I had the poem in an exercise book, which was priced 6d, and written by a H Deighton It was not in a cookery book and was the only one in the book. Sorry to be so vague. Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > Hello Michael, > If you could type it up for me I would be most grateful and I think the > others would maybe enjoy it too. > Can you tell me where you got it from please? Was it in the front of the > "Dufton Cookery Book"? If so can you tell me what year the book was > printed > too? > > I live in Essex but was brought up in Colby. > > Thanks > Judy > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gregson > Sent: 30 May 2009 21:16 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > Hello Judy, Have just seen your email. I have the whole poem. I do > not > have it here at home but it is in my History Room up the road in Warcop, > Cumbria. where I live. Where do you live and I could photo copy for you > tomorrow. . or I could type it out here. Cheers, Michael > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk> > To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:33 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > >> This is really good. I lived so you could see when the Helm Wind was >> about >> to blow because of the cloud formation over the Pennines. We got the tail >> end of it and could hear it blowing. See this web site for an >> explanation. >> http://www.dufton.org.uk/the_helm_bar.htm >> >> >> There is a poem about Dufton that mentions it which I have been trying to >> trace. It was in my mother's Dufton WI Cookery book from around 1950 or >> before. I can't think where that cookery book went too - it was well >> used. >> >> The poem started something like this:-- >> >> Thou's nivver heard o' Dufton >> Where'st a lived afore >> It ligs right under Dufton Pike, >> Thou'll see it fra t' old barn door. >> >> It went on to say about the helm wind and has quite a few verses. >> >> If any one can locate this and can send me a copy I would be really >> grateful. >> >> Judy >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker >> Sent: 29 May 2009 23:46 >> To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds >> >> Hello Audrey: >> >> Well, I had NEVER heard of Helm Winds in my life. But now I know. >> hahahahaha. >> >> Barb. >> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >> From: <GenTrees1974@aol.com<<<<<< >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: >> 05/29/09 >> 06:28:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/30/09 > 05:53:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thank you Terry, That's the one. regards, jd Terry Alderson wrote: > John: Here is the U.R.L. in question, if it will help. Terry Alderson .Toronto > > > > http://www.archive.org/stream/roundlakecountry00rawnuoft/roundlakecountry00rawnuoft_djvu.txt > > >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:15:26 -0400 >> From: jdavidson@gwi.net >> To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds >> >> search for "Full Text Round The Lake Country" >> (don't use the quote marks) it's from Toronto, Canada. >> I gave you what I could see as the adress, but then the eys don't work >> like they used too. >> >> it's over 150 pages. >> let me know if you can't find it, I'll keep on it till you get it. >> >> John, Maine, South of you some where. >> >> >> >> Barb Baker wrote: >> >>> Thanks for this, John. I couldn't seem to connect with the link you sent >>> though (?) >>> >>> Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> From: "John Davidson" <jdavidson@gwi.net<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

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Hello Michael, If you could type it up for me I would be most grateful and I think the others would maybe enjoy it too. Can you tell me where you got it from please? Was it in the front of the "Dufton Cookery Book"? If so can you tell me what year the book was printed too? I live in Essex but was brought up in Colby. Thanks Judy -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gregson Sent: 30 May 2009 21:16 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds Hello Judy, Have just seen your email. I have the whole poem. I do not have it here at home but it is in my History Room up the road in Warcop, Cumbria. where I live. Where do you live and I could photo copy for you tomorrow. . or I could type it out here. Cheers, Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Jeffrey" <judy@fireflies.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > This is really good. I lived so you could see when the Helm Wind was about > to blow because of the cloud formation over the Pennines. We got the tail > end of it and could hear it blowing. See this web site for an explanation. > http://www.dufton.org.uk/the_helm_bar.htm > > > There is a poem about Dufton that mentions it which I have been trying to > trace. It was in my mother's Dufton WI Cookery book from around 1950 or > before. I can't think where that cookery book went too - it was well used. > > The poem started something like this:-- > > Thou's nivver heard o' Dufton > Where'st a lived afore > It ligs right under Dufton Pike, > Thou'll see it fra t' old barn door. > > It went on to say about the helm wind and has quite a few verses. > > If any one can locate this and can send me a copy I would be really > grateful. > > Judy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb Baker > Sent: 29 May 2009 23:46 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > Hello Audrey: > > Well, I had NEVER heard of Helm Winds in my life. But now I know. > hahahahaha. > > Barb. > >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- > From: <GenTrees1974@aol.com<<<<<< > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/29/09 > 06:28:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.30/2115 - Release Date: 05/30/09 05:53:00

I just spent a pleasant hour browsing through the site that John mentioned and for which Terry gave us the link. I came across a poem about the Helm Wind. It is interesting but does not sound to be the same one Judy spoke of in her post (and is not in the local "dialect"). However, that link has a lot of other interesting information and stories that give a good idea of what life must have been like "way back then"! Helen -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Terry Alderson Sent: May 30, 2009 11:47 PM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds John: Here is the U.R.L. in question, if it will help. Terry Alderson .Toronto http://www.archive.org/stream/roundlakecountry00rawnuoft/roundlakecountry00r awnuoft_djvu.txt > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:15:26 -0400 > From: jdavidson@gwi.net > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > search for "Full Text Round The Lake Country" > (don't use the quote marks) it's from Toronto, Canada. > I gave you what I could see as the adress, but then the eys don't work > like they used too. > > it's over 150 pages. > let me know if you can't find it, I'll keep on it till you get it. > > John, Maine, South of you some where. > > > > Barb Baker wrote: > > Thanks for this, John. I couldn't seem to connect with the link you sent > > though (?) > > > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>> > > From: "John Davidson" <jdavidson@gwi.net<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John: Here is the U.R.L. in question, if it will help. Terry Alderson .Toronto http://www.archive.org/stream/roundlakecountry00rawnuoft/roundlakecountry00rawnuoft_djvu.txt > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:15:26 -0400 > From: jdavidson@gwi.net > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] "Where Have They Gone" - Helm Winds > > search for "Full Text Round The Lake Country" > (don't use the quote marks) it's from Toronto, Canada. > I gave you what I could see as the adress, but then the eys don't work > like they used too. > > it's over 150 pages. > let me know if you can't find it, I'll keep on it till you get it. > > John, Maine, South of you some where. > > > > Barb Baker wrote: > > Thanks for this, John. I couldn't seem to connect with the link you sent > > though (?) > > > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>> > > From: "John Davidson" <jdavidson@gwi.net<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582