Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald November 2, 1883 Friday before Judge Ingham John HILEY sued Thomas GRAVESON for £6 6s For clothes supplied to son of Thomas GRAVESON who unfortunately for plaintiff is now in New Zealand. Case dismissed; it is the son who should be sued. Isaac THOMPSON sued Geo. PATTINSON, both of Bowness, for 19s 4d, the price of some oars made for him. Defendant pleaded that he ordered the oars from THOMPSON on behalf of a person named PALMER, and that the plaintiff understood this to be the case. The judge found for the plaintiff at 8s a month, and that if defendant's statement were correct his remedy would now be against PALMER. John DOBSON sought to recover from J.S. RYLANDS £4 5s being his charge for a man and three horses conveying furniture to Askam. Mr. H. DOBSON for the plaintiff Defendant pleaded that the sum named was an overcharge and that £3 3s would have been the proper price. He had to get stabling for the horses at Askam and had also given the driver a matter of 4s 6d. Plaintiff's drayman stated that there had been no bargain as to price and the charge of his master was a reasonable one. As for the stabling which defendant said he had provided, he (witness) found it not fit for a pig and he had to take his horses to Ulverston. Verdict for plaintiff SHAW v HOLLAND William SHAW, auctioneer, Liverpool sued John HOLLAND, auctioneer, Bowness for the sum of £5 he held of his as stake-holder of a wager which had been between plaintiff and a Mr. LEVY, a picture dealer at Liverpool. Mr. DOBSON for the plaintiff Mr. HOLLAND had received two sums of five pounds from SHAW and LEVY respectively, being a wager respecting some picture or other. He was subsequently satisfied that SHAW had lost the bet, and accordingly handed the money over to LEVY, not however before receiving several communications from the plaintiff in which he first demanded the £10 and afterwards his own stake back again. However, Mr. HOLLAND had satisfactory evidence that he had lost, and acted as above mentioned. In giving judgement for the plaintiff, His Honour told the defendant that if the plaintiff had only given him notice for his money back one hour before paying the same over to Levy it was sufficient. The law allowed a man to claim his money back again at any time before it was paid over. BELL v GIBSON John BELL, miller, Ambleside sued Annie GIBSON, grocer Ambleside for £2 2s 10d for hay sold. Bowman GIBSON, appeared for his mother stated that the hay was not for her but for his brother. Plaintiff's son said that Mrs. GIBSON‘s cart and horse came for it in charge of the two brothers. The case was dismissed as plaintiff's remedy was now clear as the brother had acknowledged the debt. FELL v WALWYN Robert H. FELL and Son claimed from Arthur Shepheard WALWYN £1 12s 6d for damage done to a machine in charge of plaintiff's man whilst cutting defendant's grass. Mr. DOBSON for plaintiff Mr. THOMPSON for defendant Mr. FELL, junr. said he had made a bargain with defendant as to cutting his grass. He refused at first to cut it as it was not dressed, but eventually did so on Mr. WALWYN agreeing to pay any damage sustained by the machine. The machine subsequently sustained damage through collision with a small rock in the field. Defendant stated that no bargain had been made between them respecting damage to machine. Plaintiff had mown the field last year and there was no contract about damage. The field had been made properly ready for mowing. The Judge found for defendant, saying that if the offending rock had been a loose stone the plaintiff might then have shown that Mr. WALWYN had been negligent in not removing it; as to the alleged verbal agreement - could anyone in court tell him which was speaking the truth. He must find for defendant. BREWSTER v PARK Edwin BREWSTER claimed £1 13s 6d from Noble PARK, debt owing by his wife five years ago, before her marriage. Plaintiff said that Mrs. PARK had property (furniture) when she married which statement was denied. His honour said the plaintiff might seize the furniture if he chose, but it would be at his own risk to prove it belonged to the wife. Patent Pick Co. v CHAMLEY The Hardy Patent Pick Company sued R. CHAMLEY for £6 balance of account. The difference between the contending parties was over price, the defendant stating that he purchased the picks at 6s 6d per dozen and the plaintiffs proving by correspondence that with the exception of the first lot they were purchased at 8s. Order to pay 15s per month and costs. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald June 29, 1883 Thursday before his Honour Judge INGHAM William BALDRY v. Rector and Church wardens of Grasmere Claim for wages for work done. Plaintiff said that when the present rector came to Grasmere, he was officiating as clerk and sexton to the church. After the rector had been duly installed, for some reason or other he took a dislike to plaintiff and removed him from the clerkship and the other offices. This was in 1878. In the following year plaintiff was again appointed to the various offices he had previously held. The appointments were made at the Easter Vestry and held for the ensuing 12 months. Plaintiff dated his claim from 1879. The church wardens at that time were Messrs. Levi HODGSON, Fleming GREEN, and W. ASKEW. The churchwardens would have paid the account when it became due had the Rector allowed them to do so. Rector: I am not responsible for payment. Mr. Fleming GREEN offered to pay the money. Plaintiff: No he did not. His Honour: I can not help you. There is no doubt the money is due but you have sued the wrong person. You can not sue the current churchwardens for money due from those of prior office. C.J. BREWSTER v. John DIXON Claim for £7 4s 6d for goods supplied. Defendant admitted to owing £4 14s 9d some five years ago and stated as the reason for its not being paid that plaintiff had liquidated and he (defendant) was left in ignorance as to whom the money must be paid. He produced a book showing the amount owed. Judgement for defendant for £4 14s 9d to be paid at 3s per month. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

In researching my Medcalf ancestry I had reached the conclusion that the THOMAS MEDCALF who married SARAH DENT at Kendal on 13 August 1832 was the son of Thomas & Dorothy Medcalf - baptised at Kendal on 21 October 1810 However, I have recently had contact with some other Medcalf researchers and they have attributed Thomas as being the son of Caleb and Mary Medcalf - baptised at Kendal on 9 February 1812. I have checked the 1841 Census and I can only find one Thomas Medcalf that fits, so I would presume that the other one had died by then - but which one ? Does anyone have access to Kendal burial records between 1810/12 and 1841 or can help in solving this query ? Derek.

Hello David, Thank you so very much for this work. You are a star. These details would never have come to our attention without your skills. Thank you again. Regards Bronwen and David ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Leverton" <ulpha@telus.net> To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 9:41 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ullock Notes > Hello Browen and David, > > I don't think any of my previous post included the name Ullock or > variants. However, I have a few references to that > name that I can share with you - no Sargent Ullock, though > > 1. From the will of Edward HIRD dated 27-Aug-1611 and proved > 7-Mar-1611/12. > Edward mentions "my brother in law _____ ULLOCK and my sister Jenett his > wife" and later on mentions "my cousin John > ULLOCK" > > 2. From hearth tax of Grasmere 1663 > John ULLOCK, Taylor, age 29, (other males same household have ages 3,2,and > 15) > Katherine ULLOCK widow age 67 > > 3. From the Ambleside Newspaper. > > May 1, 1880 Page 5 - Bowness Miscellaneous > > Bowness Public Improvements > New post office to be at the bottom of Crag Brow, now an old coach house > the property of Mr. ULLOCK. > > May 22, 1880 Page 5 - Bowness Local Board > An extraordinary meeting of the above was called for Friday the 14th inst > and took place in the Institute to consider > the plans submitted by Mr ULLOCK for certain alterations to the "Royal" > Coach House, indicating the removal of the same > and the erection of new premises. ... > > Same date Page 2 Hawkshead Gala and Sports > 200 Yards Hurdle race 15s .. 7s.. 3s. 1st W.J. ULLOCK, 2nd T. > BRAITHWAITE; 3rd W.J. WALKER > > > October 16, 1880 Page 4 > Tenders received on work required on erection of house & shop at Craig > Brow, Barrow-on-Windermere of T. ULLOCK, > Esq. > > July 30, 1881 > Accident - An accident occurred to a farmer named John ULLOCK, at Sunny > Bank, Torver on Wednesday 20th inst. Whilst > engaged in mowing grass in his field, his horse took fright, this being > the first time it had been tried in a mowing > machine. Mr. Ullock was in front of the machine and in his attempts to > hold the horse he was thrown to the ground, when > one of the teeth in front of the knife guard entered his leg below the > knee. He also sustained a severe cut in the > fleshy part of the arm. Dr. KENDALL of Coniston was shortly in > attendance, and we are happy to learn that Mr. Ullock is > progressing favourably. > > > > June 16, 1882 Page 4 - Windermere Petty Session > Mr. Gatey appeared on behalf of Mr. ULLOCK for an ejectment order to > Thomas Harrison > for a house in Bowness called "Dog Kennel". Mr. Harrison sub let the house > and Mr. > ULLOCK could not get possession. > Order granted. > > June 23, 1882 - Windermere Band of Hope > Meeting held on Tuesday in the Girls' Schoolroom, Bowness Rev. S.A.K. > SYLVESTER, presided > present: Rev. Canon STOCK, Mrs. SYLVESTER, Mrs. PITT, Miss ULLOCK, Miss > BUTCHER, Miss NEWMAN, the Misses HOLMES etc > Prizes of books presented by Miss ULLOCK were won by Martha ROBINSON, > Margaret NICHOL, Theodore ROBINSON, Ada > Emily GILL, W.A. SHIPLEY, William THOMPSON, Minnie GARNETT, Martha BENN. > Performances by: Elizabeth BISHAM, Hannah J. SHIPLEY, Hannah BADMINTON, > James GRIDEDALE, Hartley PALMER, > Isabella JORDAN > > September 28, 1883 Page 4 - Marriage. > On the 25th inst at St. Mary's Church, Ambleside, Mr. James ULLOCK of > Barton-upon-Irwell to Miss Mary Elizabeth KIDD of > Ambleside > > > > Hope ths helps, > > David Leverton > > > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:10:51 +0100, you wrote: > >> >>Hello David, >> >>We are relatively new to these site and have missed much of what you have >>forwarded so we write to thank you and to ask your help. >> >>So firstly - You do fantastic work - thank you so much. >> >>Have you ever come across the names ULLOCK / HULLOCK / HULOCK / YOULOCK or >>this one in particular SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK on any documents you have >>seen please. >> >>Best wishes >> >>Bronwen and David >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald February 23, 1883 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Judge Held yesterday when business consisted of the following cases: 6 adjourned, 77 new, 1 new trial, 1 Sci fa, 4 defended, 8 adjourned commitment, and 8 original summonses. Undisputed cases dispensed with by Geo. GATEY, Esq., registrar. The undermentioned came before a judge. BONNEY vs. FORSYTH New trial from last Court, on application of FORSYTH J.D. DOBSON, solicitor, Bowness for Mr. BONNEY Mr. BONNEY, a plumber urged conclusion of the matter as this was the sixth time plaintiff had attended. Defendant did not appear and the debt was ordered to be paid and full costs allowed. John HILEY, of Bowness, tailor sued Thomas GRAVESON of Birklands for £6 6s amount owing for wearing apparel for his son Plaintiff said defendant got a suit of clothes and a waterproof overcoat for his son who at the time was only 20 years of age but now was over 21. The son ordered them, but the father received them and promised to see that the money should be paid. Defendant pleaded that he never intended to pay for the clothes, but promised he would do his best to induce his son to pay for them. The judge observed as the father had not agreed in writing to pay for his son's clothes, he could not be compelled to do so. The son owed the money and his being under 21 years of age at the time the clothes were served did not exempt the young man from debt. The case was ordered to stand over, the father promised to write to his son (who was now in New Zealand) and do his best to persuade him to sent the money. Robert WREN, labourer of Consiton sued B. JOHNS, manager to the Coniston Mining company for £2 13s 9d for work done WREN said he had been engaged to work by the day at the rate of 3s 9d a day. He was engaged at this price for 17 days but as his employer refused to pay the full amount, he took the present action. Mr. JOHNS stated that plaintiff had been sent to make a little soil cutting for a new level. For the first day or two he was allowed 3s 9d per day, but afterwards a verbal contract was entered into by them (for the more speedy completion of the cutting), the scale of pay agreed upon being 1s per cubic yard, the previous two days work having to be thrown in and calculated after the same rate. There were 34 cubic yards and the pay agreed upon was much in excess of usual contracts, which was 8d. Plaintiff said he never entered into any contract other than at the scale of 3s 9d per day. Defendant had mentioned about the 1s per cubic yard to him but that it was not to be entered into until he could get a mate, and when he succeed in obtaining one the foreman (Mr. Hudson) would not allow his mate to work. The judge reminded the defendant that any contracts he entered into should be in writing if they were intended to be binding, a point of which all men of business should know. Ordered to pay full amount. George CRAGG sued Crosthwaite BELL (both of Ambleside) for £2 18s amount due for meat and defendant sued plaintiff for £1 5s 2d for driving cattle for him, five journeys from Wythburn to Ambleside. The amount owing to Mr. CRAGG was not denied; but the amount regarding the counter claim was disputed. Mr. BELL was employed by Messrs. FLEMING and ASPLIN, butchers, and had some cattle to bring over occasionally from Wythburn. Mr. FLEMING was asked if CRAGG's cattle could be brought over at the same time and he consented, stating that if anything was to be paid it had to be handed to him, not to Mr. BELL. Besides, five journeys had been charged while in reality there were only three. Mr. BELL contended that he was instructed to receive pay for driving the cattle. As witnesses were not forthcoming the judged ordered the case to stand over until the next court. Mr. DOBSON, on behalf of the Trustees of the estate of W.M. KING, surgeon, of Ambleside brought up a point of law for the Judge to decide. A bill had been sent by Messrs. KING and REDMAYNE to Mr. James GIBSON, grocer, Ambleside, previous to the liquidation of Mr. KING. Mr. GIBSON had a counter bill which he sent in to Mr. KING requesting him to receipt it and leave the balance. The judge decided that it was not lawful, if the debt owing to Mr. GIBSON was due from Mr. KING alone, to settle accounts in this manner and by so doing, it was unfair to Mr. REDMAYNE. He therefore non-suited Mr. GIBSON. Ambleside Lakes Herald May 4, 1883 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Esquire, Judge A periodical sitting of this Court was held yesterday when the annexed list of cases were dispensed: 91 original cases, 7 adjourned causses, 3 adjourned commitment summonses. All undisputed cases were disposed of by Geo. GATEY, registrar. Messrs. CASSON and CHAMLEY, Auctioneers, Ulverston sued William BALDRY, bookseller, Grasmere for 28s, the price bid at a sale for a reading desk taken from Grasmere Church. Defendant contended that legally he ought to pay only 21s because his only rival above the sum was the vendor himself - Rev. H.M. FLETCHER. Mr. BALDRY had a set-off for £4 10s against the Rector and Churchwardens of Grasmere, and he had instituted this claim in Court thus making a cross summons. However the claim against the Rector was not proceeded with on account of his being abroad. Replying to the Judge Mr. BALDRY said that he bid 28s and that he was sober at the time - he had never been drunk in his life. The Judge ordered the full amount to be paid, also the expenses of Mr. CHAMLEY who represented the firm. Mr. BALDRY's counter claim will be heard at the next Court. Windermere Pleasure Boating Company sued James WALKER junr for £17 4s the price of Boats purchased. Defendant did not appear and the Judge gave a verdict for plaintiffs - payment £3 per month. Mr. T. HARTLEY represented the Company. George CRAGG v. Crosthwaite BELL, both of Ambleside was heard again. Judge ordered the amount charged £1 5s 2d by defendant for driving cattle to be reduced to 15s. The sum (£2 18s) owing to Mr. CRAGG was not disputed and was ordered to be paid. Mr. W. ASPLIN appeared as a witness. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Hello Browen and David, I don't think any of my previous post included the name Ullock or variants. However, I have a few references to that name that I can share with you - no Sargent Ullock, though 1. From the will of Edward HIRD dated 27-Aug-1611 and proved 7-Mar-1611/12. Edward mentions "my brother in law _____ ULLOCK and my sister Jenett his wife" and later on mentions "my cousin John ULLOCK" 2. From hearth tax of Grasmere 1663 John ULLOCK, Taylor, age 29, (other males same household have ages 3,2,and 15) Katherine ULLOCK widow age 67 3. From the Ambleside Newspaper. May 1, 1880 Page 5 - Bowness Miscellaneous Bowness Public Improvements New post office to be at the bottom of Crag Brow, now an old coach house the property of Mr. ULLOCK. May 22, 1880 Page 5 - Bowness Local Board An extraordinary meeting of the above was called for Friday the 14th inst and took place in the Institute to consider the plans submitted by Mr ULLOCK for certain alterations to the "Royal" Coach House, indicating the removal of the same and the erection of new premises. ... Same date Page 2 Hawkshead Gala and Sports 200 Yards Hurdle race 15s .. 7s.. 3s. 1st W.J. ULLOCK, 2nd T. BRAITHWAITE; 3rd W.J. WALKER October 16, 1880 Page 4 Tenders received on work required on erection of house & shop at Craig Brow, Barrow-on-Windermere of T. ULLOCK, Esq. July 30, 1881 Accident - An accident occurred to a farmer named John ULLOCK, at Sunny Bank, Torver on Wednesday 20th inst. Whilst engaged in mowing grass in his field, his horse took fright, this being the first time it had been tried in a mowing machine. Mr. Ullock was in front of the machine and in his attempts to hold the horse he was thrown to the ground, when one of the teeth in front of the knife guard entered his leg below the knee. He also sustained a severe cut in the fleshy part of the arm. Dr. KENDALL of Coniston was shortly in attendance, and we are happy to learn that Mr. Ullock is progressing favourably. June 16, 1882 Page 4 - Windermere Petty Session Mr. Gatey appeared on behalf of Mr. ULLOCK for an ejectment order to Thomas Harrison for a house in Bowness called "Dog Kennel". Mr. Harrison sub let the house and Mr. ULLOCK could not get possession. Order granted. June 23, 1882 - Windermere Band of Hope Meeting held on Tuesday in the Girls' Schoolroom, Bowness Rev. S.A.K. SYLVESTER, presided present: Rev. Canon STOCK, Mrs. SYLVESTER, Mrs. PITT, Miss ULLOCK, Miss BUTCHER, Miss NEWMAN, the Misses HOLMES etc Prizes of books presented by Miss ULLOCK were won by Martha ROBINSON, Margaret NICHOL, Theodore ROBINSON, Ada Emily GILL, W.A. SHIPLEY, William THOMPSON, Minnie GARNETT, Martha BENN. Performances by: Elizabeth BISHAM, Hannah J. SHIPLEY, Hannah BADMINTON, James GRIDEDALE, Hartley PALMER, Isabella JORDAN September 28, 1883 Page 4 - Marriage. On the 25th inst at St. Mary's Church, Ambleside, Mr. James ULLOCK of Barton-upon-Irwell to Miss Mary Elizabeth KIDD of Ambleside Hope ths helps, David Leverton On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:10:51 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello David, > >We are relatively new to these site and have missed much of what you have >forwarded so we write to thank you and to ask your help. > >So firstly - You do fantastic work - thank you so much. > >Have you ever come across the names ULLOCK / HULLOCK / HULOCK / YOULOCK or >this one in particular SERJEANT_SARGENT ULLOCK on any documents you have >seen please. > >Best wishes > >Bronwen and David > >

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald October 27, 1882 Page 4 Yesterday before T.H. INGHAM, in the Mechanics Institute Geo. GATEY, registrar. Margaret THOMPSON vs Paul SPEIGHT, both of Grasmere Plaintiff sued for money owing for lodging including one week's pay in lieu of notice. Defendant claimed landlady refused to cook his meat hence he left without notice. George BORWICK, a witness, said he heard plaintiff say she would not have SPEIGHT as a lodger. Judge ordered money to be paid. Ambleside Lakes Herald December 22, 1882 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM Geo. GATEY, registrar W.A. TENNANT vs Richard STOREY Plaintiff sued for £8 for medical attendance and medicine supplied. Mrs. STOREY attended and stated that the doctor did not attend her husband 46 times and that the charges were excessive. Mrs. BIGLAND also said plaintiff had not made so many visits as stated. Judge thought otherwise, stating that the charges were light for professional attendance and medicine. Verdict for plaintiff, payments to be made at 5s a month. Isaac CROASDELL vs George BUTCHER Plaintiff claimed £2 3s for goods sold. Defence did not show, case remained unheard. C.G. BREWSTER vs William JACKSON Plaintiff sued for £1 1s 3d for goods sold. Mrs. Jackson appeared saying that she owed 6s 6d only for coals supplied. Plaintiff produced his book. Judgement for plaintiff, defendant to pay 4s monthly. C.G. BREWSTER vs J.M. PEDDAR Plaintiff sued for £1 12s 11d for goods supplied. PEDDAR claimed he only owed 15s. but failed to prove this. Order made for full payment at 4s a month. C.G. BREWSTER vs Robt. SEWELL Plaintiff sued for 13s 6d for goods supplied. Mrs. SEWELL attended and observed she only owed 8s. Order made for payment of full amount, payable in monthly installments of 3s. Robt. MOORE vs George DALSTON Plaintiff sued for £4 4s for goods sold. Defendant did not dispute the amount but wished to enter a counter claim next sitting. Verdict for plaintiff - hearing for counter claim granted upon payment of amount to court. I. MCCARTHY vs Miles SHAW Plaintiff sued for £1 18s for clothes supplied. Defendant disputed having ordered the goods, but admitted to wearing them. Defendant ordered to pay 6s a month. New hearing for E.D. BONNEY vs John FORSYTH as defendant could not attend previous court. New hearing for Dr. TENNANT vs Richard BIGLAND settled in favour of plaintiff one year ago. Defendant stated plaintiff sent a bill for 19s 6d and he later received a bill from Mr. THORNBER of Kendal for £1 13s. Ambleside Lakes Herald December 29, 1882 Page 4 Dr. TENNANT and all defendants summoned for doctor's bills as reported last week were residents of Staveley, not Ambleside. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Has anyone ?who has been researching court records in Westmorland come across the name John Scriven, crime committed between 1890 1901 Thank you Andrelee -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Jun 18, 2009 8:00 am Subject: ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 Today's Topics: 1. YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE (David Hughlock) 2. Re: YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE (Terry Alderson) 3. Re: YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE (Glenys Marriott) 4. Ambleside County Court May and July 1882 (David Leverton) 5. Re: Ambleside County Court May and July 1882 (Lorraine T) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:17 +0100 From: "David Hughlock" <David@hughlock.co.uk> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE To: <ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com>, <CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com>, "WESTMORLAND mailing LIST" <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com>, "LANCASHIRE Gen" <lancsgen@rootsweb.com>, <NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000a01c9ef32$b38d6080$4001a8c0@davidb357258df> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hello Listers, Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this please. Regards Bronwen and David ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:58:42 -0400 From: Terry Alderson <rabbitcatcher@live.ca> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <SNT107-W228BE98C3475A698B2C9E1A43C0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try this: Yorkshire has quite a number of lists. Terry Alderson. Toronto http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch > From: David@hughlock.co.uk > To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com; NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:17 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE > > Hello Listers, > > Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this please. > > Regards > > Bronwen and David > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:07:09 +0100 From: "Glenys Marriott" <glenys@bishopdale.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <69BA7974730A4B23A9756431FA1C1B63@Glenys> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Bronwen and David Not all the lists are on Rootsweb - if you have any research interest in the Upper Dales of Yorkshire - the length of Wensleydale and Swaledale and all the tributaries, try the Upper Dales Family History Group list at fp.underw.f9.co.uk/udfhgroup/ We have a really friendly group - around 300 across the world, and most seem to be related to each other! With best wishes Glenys Guild of One Name Studies No 3797 www.cumpston.org.uk Searching for CUMPSTON, CUMPSON, CUMSON, COMPSTON, COMPSON everywhere "More is missed by not looking than by not knowing" [Thomas McCrae, 1870-1935] >> From: David@hughlock.co.uk >> To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com; >> eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com; >> NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:17 +0100 >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this >> please. >> >> Regards >> >> Bronwen and David ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:38:51 -0700 From: David Leverton <ulpha@telus.net> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ambleside County Court May and July 1882 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <qsvh35l0uj3nid7dfo3ebntoklk49ipm12@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald May 26, 1882 Page 4 Yesterday before T.H. INGHAM Mr. Geo. GATEY, registrar The Windermere Gas and Water Company sued Mr. BROCKLEBANK, builder, of Bowness for ?4 18s 6d being the cost of goods supplied and labour done. Case was brought up before the judge at the last sitting, but carried over as Mr. MORGAN, manager of the gas and water company was unable to attend through lameness. It transpired that a few years ago, defendant, who was at that time a member of the firm of Palmer, Martin and Brocklebank (since dissolved) builders of Bowness, erected one or two houses near Biskey Howe on his own responsibility -- "not wishing partners to have any profit out of him" -- the gas and water company being engaged to lay down piping and supply the same. Defendant maintained that he ordered piping and labour in the firm's name which he represented, but this the manager of the company denied, he asserting that everything was ordered in BROCKLEBANK's own name. An item in the bill for ?1 9s 4d, it being the cost of a quantity of piping supplied, defendant said was a wrong charge, as the piping was his own in the first instance. Mr. E.D. BONNEY, plumber, Bowness appeared as a witness to prove this statement, but, however could only assure the judge that he laid the piping down - he knew nothing whatever of where it came from. Mr. MORGAN observed that the bill had been sent to BROCKLEBANK every quarter for about three years - he had had it ten times - but never before had he objected to the items, his first denial to pay the account being after proceedings were taken against him. Mr. SLACK, clerk to the company proved serving defendant with material, and well remembered the occasion as defendant asked him to "put it as cheap as he could" Judge ordered immediate payment of the bill and costs. Ambleside Lakes Herald July 28, 1882 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Esq. Solicitors present: W.T. SHARP, Lancaster; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; F.W. WATSON, Kendal; H. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness. Geo. GATEY, registrar. Joseph HODGSON, horse breaker vs John ROBINSON, Gentleman Mr. SHARP for defendant Mr. DOBSON for plaintiff Plaintiff claimed ?13 15s 8d including ?3 17s 6d interest. A cross account, also with interest filed with the result that only ?3 15s 8d of the debt was acknowledged. The accounts had been pending since 1876. There was much dispute over a horse which plaintiff trained for defendant. Defendant alleged that it was agreed that the horse should be trained in return for the labour it might do, whilst plaintiff affirmed that it was bargained that he should charge whatever he wished; and the money would be paid - struck out. ?4 allowed for the breaking in of the horse - each to pay own costs. George GARNETT vs Thomas MARTINDALE, before a jury Mr. THOMPSON for plaintiff who claimed ?12 18s 3d for wintering 41 hogs from last October to April of this year on his farm at Skelwith Bridge. Mr. WATSON for defendant who, as a set-off pleaded that ?15 damages be allowed for non-fulfilment of contract and loss sustained in the death of several sheep through ill management. Mr. THOMPSON opened the case, and stated that the defendant had paid ?5 into court. The facts were that in October a bargain was made between the parties to the effect that 50 sheep, at 5s 9d per head [would be] pastured on the inside land belonging to plaintiff's farm. This inside land was extensive, but closely adjoining there was also fell pasture. The sheep to be agisted were hogs. After being admitted on the farm, they were regularly changed from one part of the land to another; and Mr. GARNETT placed 24 sheep of his own under precisely the same treatment, they all roaming together. Defendant had seen the land, and at Christmas went to see his sheep, and found no fault, he seemingly being quite satisfied with their aspect. On the 31st of March they were taken by defendant's son to a neighbouring farmer's to dip, after which they were again put on the farm. At this time 41 sheep only were alive, eight having died through the winter from illness arising from eating young shoots and other unavoidable causes. Four out of the plaintiff's 24 sheep had also died during the same period of time and it was not unusual for a few sheep to die off whilst wintering. For the plaintiff Edward BOOTH, James COUSINS and John RICHARDSON examined, all bearing out that the sheep were very ill-conditioned when they first saw them on Mr. GARNETT's farm. For defence, Mr. BACKHOUSE and defendant's son and nephew alleged that the sheep had for all appearances been ill-fed. The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff for full amount. George CANNON vs Thomas ABBA, both parties reside at Staveley. Mr. WATSON for the plaintiff. Mr. THOMPSON for defendant. A trotting match had been arranged, the prize being a silver tea pot. Race took place at Whitsuntide, Mr. HAYTON was the referee. ABBA's horse came first but was disqualified by the referee for galloping and CANNON's horse therefore awarded the prize. ABBA had possession of the tea pot and would not give it up. Judge ordered tea pot to be handed over, the referee's judgement being the law in this matter. E.D. BONNEY, Bowness vs J. FORSYTH, Bowness Sued for ?3 19s 5d for fixing three water closets. Defendant claimed valves did not work correctly but was willing to pay as soon as they were put in proper order. Plaintiff said they were all in proper condition. Verdict for plaintiff David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:10:59 -0700 From: Lorraine T <ttime@islandnet.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Ambleside County Court May and July 1882 To: David Leverton <ulpha@telus.net> Cc: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <C65E7FC3.15FA4%ttime@islandnet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Hi David, I'm sure everyone on this list owes a huge vote of thanks to you for these remarkable transcriptions of Ambleside Court cases. I look forward to them so much. Even had my ancestors not been mentioned, the catalogue of disputes and their resolutions is fascinating and conveys immediacy and a wonderful sense of the time period. However, today my great Grandfather E.D. BONNEY, a plumber of Bowness, was mentioned - twice! I and my family are so grateful to you. With sincere thanks, Lorraine Victoria, BC Canada > Ambleside County Court > > Ambleside Lakes Herald May 26, 1882 Page 4 > > Yesterday before T.H. INGHAM > Mr. Geo. GATEY, registrar > > The Windermere Gas and Water Company sued Mr. BROCKLEBANK, builder, of Bowness > for ?4 18s 6d being the cost of goods > supplied and labour done. > > Case was brought up before the judge at the last sitting, but carried over as > Mr. MORGAN, manager of the gas and water > company was unable to attend through lameness. > > It transpired that a few years ago, defendant, who was at that time a member > of the firm of Palmer, Martin and > Brocklebank (since dissolved) builders of Bowness, erected one or two houses > near Biskey Howe on his own responsibility > -- "not wishing partners to have any profit out of him" -- the gas and water > company being engaged to lay down piping > and supply the same. > > Defendant maintained that he ordered piping and labour in the firm's name > which he represented, but this the manager of > the company denied, he asserting that everything was ordered in BROCKLEBANK's > own name. > > An item in the bill for ?1 9s 4d, it being the cost of a quantity of piping > supplied, defendant said was a wrong charge, > as the piping was his own in the first instance. > > Mr. E.D. BONNEY, plumber, Bowness appeared as a witness to prove this > statement, but, however could only assure the > judge that he laid the piping down - he knew nothing whatever of where it came > from. > > Mr. MORGAN observed that the bill had been sent to BROCKLEBANK every quarter > for about three years - he had had it ten > times - but never before had he objected to the items, his first denial to pay > the account being after proceedings were > taken against him. Mr. SLACK, clerk to the company proved serving defendant > with material, and well remembered the > occasion as defendant asked him to "put it as cheap as he could" > > Judge ordered immediate payment of the bill and costs. > > > > Ambleside Lakes Herald July 28, 1882 Page 4 > > Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Esq. > Solicitors present: W.T. SHARP, Lancaster; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; F.W. WATSON, > Kendal; H. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness. > Geo. GATEY, registrar. > > Joseph HODGSON, horse breaker vs John ROBINSON, Gentleman > Mr. SHARP for defendant > Mr. DOBSON for plaintiff > > Plaintiff claimed ?13 15s 8d including ?3 17s 6d interest. A cross account, > also with interest filed with the result > that only ?3 15s 8d of the debt was acknowledged. > The accounts had been pending since 1876. > There was much dispute over a horse which plaintiff trained for defendant. > > Defendant alleged that it was agreed that the horse should be trained in > return for the labour it might do, whilst > plaintiff affirmed that it was bargained that he should charge whatever he > wished; and the money would be paid - struck > out. > ?4 allowed for the breaking in of the horse - each to pay own costs. > > > > George GARNETT vs Thomas MARTINDALE, before a jury > Mr. THOMPSON for plaintiff who claimed ?12 18s 3d for wintering 41 hogs from > last October to April of this year on his > farm at Skelwith Bridge. > > Mr. WATSON for defendant who, as a set-off pleaded that ?15 damages be allowed > for non-fulfilment of contract and loss > sustained in the death of several sheep through ill management. > > Mr. THOMPSON opened the case, and stated that the defendant had paid ?5 into > court. The facts were that in October a > bargain was made between the parties to the effect that 50 sheep, at 5s 9d per > head [would be] pastured on the inside > land belonging to plaintiff's farm. This inside land was extensive, but > closely adjoining there was also fell pasture. > The sheep to be agisted were hogs. > > After being admitted on the farm, they were regularly changed from one part of > the land to another; and Mr. GARNETT > placed 24 sheep of his own under precisely the same treatment, they all > roaming together. Defendant had seen the land, > and at Christmas went to see his sheep, and found no fault, he seemingly being > quite satisfied with their aspect. On > the 31st of March they were taken by defendant's son to a neighbouring > farmer's to dip, after which they were again put > on the farm. At this time 41 sheep only were alive, eight having died through > the winter from illness arising from > eating young shoots and other unavoidable causes. Four out of the plaintiff's > 24 sheep had also died during the same > period of time and it was not unusual for a few sheep to die off whilst > wintering. > > For the plaintiff Edward BOOTH, James COUSINS and John RICHARDSON examined, > all bearing out that the sheep were very > ill-conditioned when they first saw them on Mr. GARNETT's farm. > > For defence, Mr. BACKHOUSE and defendant's son and nephew alleged that the > sheep had for all appearances been ill-fed. > > The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff for full amount. > > > > George CANNON vs Thomas ABBA, both parties reside at Staveley. > Mr. WATSON for the plaintiff. > Mr. THOMPSON for defendant. > > A trotting match had been arranged, the prize being a silver tea pot. Race > took place at Whitsuntide, Mr. HAYTON was > the referee. ABBA's horse came first but was disqualified by the referee for > galloping and CANNON's horse therefore > awarded the prize. ABBA had possession of the tea pot and would not give it > up. > > Judge ordered tea pot to be handed over, the referee's judgement being the > law in this matter. > > > > E.D. BONNEY, Bowness vs J. FORSYTH, Bowness > Sued for ?3 19s 5d for fixing three water closets. > > Defendant claimed valves did not work correctly but was willing to pay as soon > as they were put in proper order. > > Plaintiff said they were all in proper condition. > > Verdict for plaintiff > > > David Leverton > Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker > ulpha@telus.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Dear Bronwen and David Not all the lists are on Rootsweb - if you have any research interest in the Upper Dales of Yorkshire - the length of Wensleydale and Swaledale and all the tributaries, try the Upper Dales Family History Group list at fp.underw.f9.co.uk/udfhgroup/ We have a really friendly group - around 300 across the world, and most seem to be related to each other! With best wishes Glenys Guild of One Name Studies No 3797 www.cumpston.org.uk Searching for CUMPSTON, CUMPSON, CUMSON, COMPSTON, COMPSON everywhere "More is missed by not looking than by not knowing" [Thomas McCrae, 1870-1935] >> From: David@hughlock.co.uk >> To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com; >> eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com; >> NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:17 +0100 >> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE >> >> Hello Listers, >> >> Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this >> please. >> >> Regards >> >> Bronwen and David

Hi David, I'm sure everyone on this list owes a huge vote of thanks to you for these remarkable transcriptions of Ambleside Court cases. I look forward to them so much. Even had my ancestors not been mentioned, the catalogue of disputes and their resolutions is fascinating and conveys immediacy and a wonderful sense of the time period. However, today my great Grandfather E.D. BONNEY, a plumber of Bowness, was mentioned - twice! I and my family are so grateful to you. With sincere thanks, Lorraine Victoria, BC Canada > Ambleside County Court > > Ambleside Lakes Herald May 26, 1882 Page 4 > > Yesterday before T.H. INGHAM > Mr. Geo. GATEY, registrar > > The Windermere Gas and Water Company sued Mr. BROCKLEBANK, builder, of Bowness > for £4 18s 6d being the cost of goods > supplied and labour done. > > Case was brought up before the judge at the last sitting, but carried over as > Mr. MORGAN, manager of the gas and water > company was unable to attend through lameness. > > It transpired that a few years ago, defendant, who was at that time a member > of the firm of Palmer, Martin and > Brocklebank (since dissolved) builders of Bowness, erected one or two houses > near Biskey Howe on his own responsibility > -- "not wishing partners to have any profit out of him" -- the gas and water > company being engaged to lay down piping > and supply the same. > > Defendant maintained that he ordered piping and labour in the firm's name > which he represented, but this the manager of > the company denied, he asserting that everything was ordered in BROCKLEBANK's > own name. > > An item in the bill for £1 9s 4d, it being the cost of a quantity of piping > supplied, defendant said was a wrong charge, > as the piping was his own in the first instance. > > Mr. E.D. BONNEY, plumber, Bowness appeared as a witness to prove this > statement, but, however could only assure the > judge that he laid the piping down - he knew nothing whatever of where it came > from. > > Mr. MORGAN observed that the bill had been sent to BROCKLEBANK every quarter > for about three years - he had had it ten > times - but never before had he objected to the items, his first denial to pay > the account being after proceedings were > taken against him. Mr. SLACK, clerk to the company proved serving defendant > with material, and well remembered the > occasion as defendant asked him to "put it as cheap as he could" > > Judge ordered immediate payment of the bill and costs. > > > > Ambleside Lakes Herald July 28, 1882 Page 4 > > Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Esq. > Solicitors present: W.T. SHARP, Lancaster; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; F.W. WATSON, > Kendal; H. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness. > Geo. GATEY, registrar. > > Joseph HODGSON, horse breaker vs John ROBINSON, Gentleman > Mr. SHARP for defendant > Mr. DOBSON for plaintiff > > Plaintiff claimed £13 15s 8d including £3 17s 6d interest. A cross account, > also with interest filed with the result > that only £3 15s 8d of the debt was acknowledged. > The accounts had been pending since 1876. > There was much dispute over a horse which plaintiff trained for defendant. > > Defendant alleged that it was agreed that the horse should be trained in > return for the labour it might do, whilst > plaintiff affirmed that it was bargained that he should charge whatever he > wished; and the money would be paid - struck > out. > £4 allowed for the breaking in of the horse - each to pay own costs. > > > > George GARNETT vs Thomas MARTINDALE, before a jury > Mr. THOMPSON for plaintiff who claimed £12 18s 3d for wintering 41 hogs from > last October to April of this year on his > farm at Skelwith Bridge. > > Mr. WATSON for defendant who, as a set-off pleaded that £15 damages be allowed > for non-fulfilment of contract and loss > sustained in the death of several sheep through ill management. > > Mr. THOMPSON opened the case, and stated that the defendant had paid £5 into > court. The facts were that in October a > bargain was made between the parties to the effect that 50 sheep, at 5s 9d per > head [would be] pastured on the inside > land belonging to plaintiff's farm. This inside land was extensive, but > closely adjoining there was also fell pasture. > The sheep to be agisted were hogs. > > After being admitted on the farm, they were regularly changed from one part of > the land to another; and Mr. GARNETT > placed 24 sheep of his own under precisely the same treatment, they all > roaming together. Defendant had seen the land, > and at Christmas went to see his sheep, and found no fault, he seemingly being > quite satisfied with their aspect. On > the 31st of March they were taken by defendant's son to a neighbouring > farmer's to dip, after which they were again put > on the farm. At this time 41 sheep only were alive, eight having died through > the winter from illness arising from > eating young shoots and other unavoidable causes. Four out of the plaintiff's > 24 sheep had also died during the same > period of time and it was not unusual for a few sheep to die off whilst > wintering. > > For the plaintiff Edward BOOTH, James COUSINS and John RICHARDSON examined, > all bearing out that the sheep were very > ill-conditioned when they first saw them on Mr. GARNETT's farm. > > For defence, Mr. BACKHOUSE and defendant's son and nephew alleged that the > sheep had for all appearances been ill-fed. > > The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff for full amount. > > > > George CANNON vs Thomas ABBA, both parties reside at Staveley. > Mr. WATSON for the plaintiff. > Mr. THOMPSON for defendant. > > A trotting match had been arranged, the prize being a silver tea pot. Race > took place at Whitsuntide, Mr. HAYTON was > the referee. ABBA's horse came first but was disqualified by the referee for > galloping and CANNON's horse therefore > awarded the prize. ABBA had possession of the tea pot and would not give it > up. > > Judge ordered tea pot to be handed over, the referee's judgement being the > law in this matter. > > > > E.D. BONNEY, Bowness vs J. FORSYTH, Bowness > Sued for £3 19s 5d for fixing three water closets. > > Defendant claimed valves did not work correctly but was willing to pay as soon > as they were put in proper order. > > Plaintiff said they were all in proper condition. > > Verdict for plaintiff > > > David Leverton > Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker > ulpha@telus.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers, Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this please. Regards Bronwen and David

Try this: Yorkshire has quite a number of lists. Terry Alderson. Toronto http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch > From: David@hughlock.co.uk > To: ENG-DURHAM@rootsweb.com; CUMBERLAND@rootsweb.com; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com; NORTHUMBRIA@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:02:17 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] YORKSHIRE SITE PLEASE > > Hello Listers, > > Could someone send us the address to any YORKSHIRE site similar to this please. > > Regards > > Bronwen and David > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ We are your photos. Share us now with Windows Live Photos. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9666047

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald May 26, 1882 Page 4 Yesterday before T.H. INGHAM Mr. Geo. GATEY, registrar The Windermere Gas and Water Company sued Mr. BROCKLEBANK, builder, of Bowness for £4 18s 6d being the cost of goods supplied and labour done. Case was brought up before the judge at the last sitting, but carried over as Mr. MORGAN, manager of the gas and water company was unable to attend through lameness. It transpired that a few years ago, defendant, who was at that time a member of the firm of Palmer, Martin and Brocklebank (since dissolved) builders of Bowness, erected one or two houses near Biskey Howe on his own responsibility -- "not wishing partners to have any profit out of him" -- the gas and water company being engaged to lay down piping and supply the same. Defendant maintained that he ordered piping and labour in the firm's name which he represented, but this the manager of the company denied, he asserting that everything was ordered in BROCKLEBANK's own name. An item in the bill for £1 9s 4d, it being the cost of a quantity of piping supplied, defendant said was a wrong charge, as the piping was his own in the first instance. Mr. E.D. BONNEY, plumber, Bowness appeared as a witness to prove this statement, but, however could only assure the judge that he laid the piping down - he knew nothing whatever of where it came from. Mr. MORGAN observed that the bill had been sent to BROCKLEBANK every quarter for about three years - he had had it ten times - but never before had he objected to the items, his first denial to pay the account being after proceedings were taken against him. Mr. SLACK, clerk to the company proved serving defendant with material, and well remembered the occasion as defendant asked him to "put it as cheap as he could" Judge ordered immediate payment of the bill and costs. Ambleside Lakes Herald July 28, 1882 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM, Esq. Solicitors present: W.T. SHARP, Lancaster; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; F.W. WATSON, Kendal; H. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness. Geo. GATEY, registrar. Joseph HODGSON, horse breaker vs John ROBINSON, Gentleman Mr. SHARP for defendant Mr. DOBSON for plaintiff Plaintiff claimed £13 15s 8d including £3 17s 6d interest. A cross account, also with interest filed with the result that only £3 15s 8d of the debt was acknowledged. The accounts had been pending since 1876. There was much dispute over a horse which plaintiff trained for defendant. Defendant alleged that it was agreed that the horse should be trained in return for the labour it might do, whilst plaintiff affirmed that it was bargained that he should charge whatever he wished; and the money would be paid - struck out. £4 allowed for the breaking in of the horse - each to pay own costs. George GARNETT vs Thomas MARTINDALE, before a jury Mr. THOMPSON for plaintiff who claimed £12 18s 3d for wintering 41 hogs from last October to April of this year on his farm at Skelwith Bridge. Mr. WATSON for defendant who, as a set-off pleaded that £15 damages be allowed for non-fulfilment of contract and loss sustained in the death of several sheep through ill management. Mr. THOMPSON opened the case, and stated that the defendant had paid £5 into court. The facts were that in October a bargain was made between the parties to the effect that 50 sheep, at 5s 9d per head [would be] pastured on the inside land belonging to plaintiff's farm. This inside land was extensive, but closely adjoining there was also fell pasture. The sheep to be agisted were hogs. After being admitted on the farm, they were regularly changed from one part of the land to another; and Mr. GARNETT placed 24 sheep of his own under precisely the same treatment, they all roaming together. Defendant had seen the land, and at Christmas went to see his sheep, and found no fault, he seemingly being quite satisfied with their aspect. On the 31st of March they were taken by defendant's son to a neighbouring farmer's to dip, after which they were again put on the farm. At this time 41 sheep only were alive, eight having died through the winter from illness arising from eating young shoots and other unavoidable causes. Four out of the plaintiff's 24 sheep had also died during the same period of time and it was not unusual for a few sheep to die off whilst wintering. For the plaintiff Edward BOOTH, James COUSINS and John RICHARDSON examined, all bearing out that the sheep were very ill-conditioned when they first saw them on Mr. GARNETT's farm. For defence, Mr. BACKHOUSE and defendant's son and nephew alleged that the sheep had for all appearances been ill-fed. The jury returned a verdict for plaintiff for full amount. George CANNON vs Thomas ABBA, both parties reside at Staveley. Mr. WATSON for the plaintiff. Mr. THOMPSON for defendant. A trotting match had been arranged, the prize being a silver tea pot. Race took place at Whitsuntide, Mr. HAYTON was the referee. ABBA's horse came first but was disqualified by the referee for galloping and CANNON's horse therefore awarded the prize. ABBA had possession of the tea pot and would not give it up. Judge ordered tea pot to be handed over, the referee's judgement being the law in this matter. E.D. BONNEY, Bowness vs J. FORSYTH, Bowness Sued for £3 19s 5d for fixing three water closets. Defendant claimed valves did not work correctly but was willing to pay as soon as they were put in proper order. Plaintiff said they were all in proper condition. Verdict for plaintiff David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald March 24, 1882 Page 4 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM Registrar George GATEY John TAYLOR, furniture broker of Kendal sued T. GIBSON, formerly auctioneer of Ambleside for £13 0s 10d in respect of a business transaction. The case was entered two sittings ago, it coming before a jury, which gave a verdict with costs to defendant. Defendant applied for a new trial on account of the result being against the weight of the evidence; which was granted, and at the last court, the hearing was adjourned until to-day at the request of GIBSON. Mr. DOBSON, solicitor, Kendal and Windermere for plaintiff said that there was now very little between the parties - only a matter of about 8s. Commission had been allowed, and a quantity of gods had been returned. He produced a letter from GIBSON dated January 1881, which showed his bill to be £2 18s 6d, but now it was stated to amount to £4 or £5. Mr. GIBSON said that storage and other considerations had since then to be added, as he had to take care of the goods. Mr. DOBSON observed that the goods were sent to defendant to sell, his commission to be five per cent which was to include everything. GIBSON was claiming from TAYLOR 6d per week for storage of a drawing room suite, a Davenport, and other articles, which made his bill exactly £3. He himself had paid Mr. HUCKERBY 6d a week for storage. The articles had been moved about to eleven sales, which entailed considerable expense, therefore he thought his charge was merely nothing. The reserve price on one article was so great that he had to sell it below figure, but made the fixed price up out of is own pocket. Mr. DOBSON asked that £3 14s be allowed; but the Judge ordered £3 to be paid , the court fees only being granted as costs. The judge thought the transaction a foolish one. James HIGGINS, cab proprietor, of Ambleside sued Thomas AINSWORTH of Commercial Hotel, Bowness for 12s 6d for driving him to Patterdale on 12-Feb-1881. This case had been previously heard and verdict given to plaintiff. At the last court Ainsworth asked for a new trial because he had not been able to attend when the case was originally heard, which was granted. AINSWORTH's defence was that there had been a breach of contract. HIGGINS stated he had agreed to take defendant and Mr. Thomas GIBSON to Patterdale and back from Ambleside. He reached Patterdale at about one o'clock, and bargained to leave at three. The snow was so thick that he found it very difficult to jog along at all. He afterwards saw AINSWORTH, who told him he could not possibly be ready for departure until half past four o'clock (as he would have to finish the sale at which he was auctioneer); Ainsworth also told him to go to the Hotel and get something to eat. Plaintiff answered that he must be ready to depart by four o'clock, otherwise it would be difficult to reach Ambleside at all that night. The charge for the drive there and back was fixed at 12s 6d and he never before punished a pair of horses so much as he did on this occasion, the road being almost impassible. He waited until half past four o'clock, then went to the place of sale. After waiting there until AINSWORTH had disposed of a fishing rod, he asked him if he was ready to leave. On being referred to "Tom" (Mr. GIBSON) who was occupied in writing, he was requested to wait a bit longer, as he could not exactly say how long the sale would last. The plaintiff then went away and drove to Ambleside minus his customers. The Judge: It is provokingly unreasonable of you to leave people in such a manner - such unreasonable nonsense. Why did you leave them at half past four? Plaintiff observed that the agreement was to leave at three o'clock, and had he known the state of the roads he "would not have went for £5". He only got a "trifling" for going. The Judge: You are a very unreasonable man, I never before heard of such a thing. Have you ever previously left people in this way? Plaintiff: No, sir. The Judge: I can not do anything for you. Plaintiff: If you had to engage me to take you anywhere, and I had to turn up an hour and a half behind time you would not have me. The Judge: No, I should think not. I shall do nothing for you; you are not reasonable. The Judge remarked that it would have been more reasonable of plaintiff if he had waited, and charged extra for the delay; but the fact of him going away showed that he was a very unreasonable man. A verdict would be given for defendant, without costs. Defendant asked if he might sue plaintiff for his expenses, but the Judge advised him to let the matter drop. George BREWSTER of Ambleside sued George DICKINSON and his wife £8 9s 6d for drapery goods supplied to the female defendant prior to marriage. Mr. DOBSON for defence and explained that the debt was contracted before marriage - the wife had no separate property. Judge: If that is so the debt cannot be recovered. The Windermere Gas Company sued Mr. BROCKLEBANK of Palmer, Martin and Brocklebank, builders, Bowness for £4 18s 6d for water and gas fittings to his house. Mr. BROCKLEBANK maintained that the water bill of £3 14s 5d and the gas bill of £1 4s 1d were excessively overcharged. Case adjourned to next sitting. James BELL, landlord of Kings Arms Hotel, Kendal sued Staveley Cooperative Bobbin Manufacturing Society for £50 for negligence resulting in his horse having to be shot. Mr. R.F. THOMPSON in the same instance sued for £10 10s. Settled out of court. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald January 28, 1882 Tuesday before T.H. INGHAM Solicitors: W.H. HEELIS, Ambleside and Hawkshead; H. DOBSON, Kendal and Bowness. Mr. G. GATEY - registrar At last court James HIGGINS of Ambleside sued Thomas AINSWORTH of Commercial Hotel, Bowness for 12s, money unpaid for hire of a trap. Defendant did not appear and verdict given for plaintiff. Mr. AINSWORTH now applies for a new trial as he was absent while searching for a subpoenaed witness. Application granted. J. TAYLOR vs T. GIBSON New hearing of a previous case which was settled by a jury in favour of defendant. Plaintiff wished a further hearing, which was granted, as his solicitor is unable to attend. Defendant now appeared and asked for an adjournment as his solicitor, Mr. WATSON, was unable to attend at present. Application granted. Dr. HARRISON formerly of Ambleside sued Robert CLARK, Grasmere for £5 5s; William JACKSON for £1 and Edward WALKER for £9 for fees. Defendants appeared in defence, one stating that the doctor had made him a present of what he owed, and another mentioning that the fees were exorbitant A young man was present to represent plaintiff, and asked for all the cases to be adjourned, which the judge agreed to, but not without denouncing this mode of procedure. Robert MCARTHUR sued Henry LANCASTER for £4 5s 6d for clothes supplied. Defendant said he was in debt, but not so large an amount as he was sued for. Order made for 5s a month. Robert MCARTHUR sued Joe FORFAR of Bowness for 10s for goods supplied. Wife of defendant appeared and agreed that debt was owing, but it had stood since 1867. On the Judge asking the how she could pay, she said "I don't want to pay at all if I can get off; it's out of date." The Judge: It seems a very honest way. Order made for payment at 3s a month. Robert MCARTHUR sued Mary MARTINDALE for £3 15s the majority of the debt being for a suit of clothes for her son. Defendant appeared and said her son was a soldier and currently in Malta and he should be responsible for the debt as he was 23 years old when they were obtained. Judge agreed with defendant - MCARTHUR to collect from son. Nathan GARNETT, farmer of Hawkshead sued John HAWKRIGG, also a farmer residing at Hawkshead for £2 for damage done by defendant's cattle to plaintiff's pasture. Mr. HEELIS appeared for the defence, and mentioned that the present action seemed to have arisen through spite, as HAWKRIGG had recovered damages from GARNETT at the last County Court for his dog worrying sheep. Stephen CALVERT was called as a witness and deposed: About the latter end of September last three of defendant's cows got into Mr. GARNETT's field and were turned out by me through a broken fence - the place where they came in at. In addition to this I have had to put them out several times. Sheep also have often got in through the fence, which belongs to Mr. HAWKRIGG. Mr. HEELIS explained that only one cow had trespassed once, and it was immediately turned out. After this, the fence was made sound which effectually prevented any further trespass. The Judge sad that he could not encourage such cases of revenge, and dismissed the matter. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald December 17, 1881 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM at the Mechanics Institute, Ambleside. Solicitors in attendance: J.T. BOWNASS, Windermere; F.W. WATSON, Kendal; H. DOBSON, Bowness and Kendal; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; W. TILLY, Lancaster; W.H. HEELIS, Ambleside and Hawkshead. Jury sworn in: John DOVE, Braithwaite HAWKRIGG, Charles HORRAX, Arthur JACKSON, G.N. LEIGHTON, junr. J. HAWKRIGG vs N. GARNETT Both parties are farmers residing at Hawkshead. GARNETT being sued for £1, the price of a lamb worried by a dog. Mr. HEELIS appeared for plaintiff and stated that on the 23rd September defendant's dog killed a sheep, the property of his client. Mr. Ed ALLONBY, was examined as a witness and proved the offence. Verdict for plaintiff for 15s, the judge advising Mr. GARNETT not to keep a dog that he could not hold under control William COPELY, Innkeeper, suing Miss Harriet TOWNSON, Hill Top, Ambleside for £26 19s 5d for her alleged negligence in driving his cow over a garden wall, a height of 10 feet, from which it sustained injuries resulting in death. Mr. TILLY appeared for the plaintiff. Mr. THOMPSON for defendant. The case was heard before the jury above mentioned. Mr. TILLY said that the cow was killed by Miss TOWNSON under peculiar circumstances. On Thursday the 20th October, the cow in question had been sent to Rydal Farm, and was brought back again the same day by a young man named Benson HARRISON. He intended to drive the cow into the shippon near to the Golden Rule; but, however, the cow passed on, and proceeded by Hill Top House towards the pasture. It was turned by HARRISON, and went into the garden of Hill Top. A very savage dog interfered and prevented a boy going in to turn the beast out. However, Miss TOWNSON took the cow in charge and drove it over the edge of the garden precipitating it a distance of 10ft. on to the road below. Benson HARRISON, a young man in the employ of the plaintiff, stated that he was too ill to keep up to the cow, he being about 130 yards away from it when it entered Hill Top doorway. The beast was not irritated, it walking quietly. He saw Miss TOWNSON drive it over the wall. She was only about two yards behind it at the time it fell over. Fleming BACKHOUSE, a youth, was called, and said that he was present when the cow fell over the wall. There was a dog which before Miss TOWNSON called it in would not permit him to enter the garden. By her orders he went to open the door at the further end of the garden to let the cow out, which would thus prevent the possibility of its damaging the flower beds. At first he heard Miss TOWNSON say to the dog, "Don, Don, set it off" the dog then running after the cow and barking. He opened the door to let the animal out, but returned the same way as it went, thus setting it back again. Mr. TILLY argued that it was carelessness on Miss TOWSNON's part to try to send it out of the door at the further end of the garden; as it would have to turn and go down two steps. Miss TOWNSON on being examined said: I live with my two sisters at Hill Top, Ambleside. On the day in question the gates leading to the lawn were open as the ashes were being taken away. Between four and five o'clock the same afternoon, I heard the dog barking, and I went out and called it in. It is a setter, and a quiet dog. The boy BACKHOUSE was at the gates, and I asked him whose cow it was, and he answered that it was Mr. COPLEY's. The door I wished it to go out at was quite large enough, as proof of which Mr. Michael TAYLOR had a horse that went through it some time ago. When the cow fell over the wall, I told the lad it would be killed; also that if he had gone round instead of turning back, the affair would not have happened. I never tried to force the cow over the wall. I neither had a stick or dog to force it over. Cross examined by Mr. TILLY: The dog is a quiet one. It might have been rather savage when a pup, but now it is older it has more sense and never touches anything. It will run away from a cow. The beast got in through the gates, which are very rarely left open. I was not near the cow at the time it fell over the wall. The jury having considered the case returned a verdict in favour of defendant. David Leverton Leverton, Stevens, Clibborn, Dodgson, Hird, Stalker ulpha@telus.net

Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald December 17, 1881 Thursday before T.H. INGHAM at the Mechanics Institute, Ambleside. Solicitors in attendance: J.T. BOWNASS, Windermere; F.W. WATSON, Kendal; H. DOBSON, Bowness and Kendal; R.F. THOMPSON, Kendal; W. TILLY, Lancaster; W.H. HEELIS, Ambleside and Hawkshead. Dr. TENNANT vs Thomas MOOR F.W. WATSON for the plaintiff. Plaintiff a doctor practising at Kendal. Defendant a collector residing at Staveley. The claim was for £2 2s 6d money alleged to have been received on behalf of plaintiff. Withdrawn, leave being granted for re-entry. J. TAYLOR vs T. GIBSON Mr. DOBSON applied for permission for the case of J. TAYLOR v. T. GIBSON to be re-heard. At the last court plaintiff sought to recover £5 10s, for goods sold, also £7 10s for unsold goods. The application was made because of the verdict being against the weight of evidence. Granted. Jury sworn in: John DOVE, Braithwaite HAWKRIGG, Charles HORRAX, Arthur JACKSON, G.N. LEIGHTON, junr. Charles BLADES , timber merchant vs Mrs. BARROW, grocer, Ambleside Mr. TILLY for plaintiff Mr. WATSON for defendant. Mr. TILLY, in opening the case, remarked that this was an action brought by Charles BLADES, a timber merchant, against Mrs. BARROW, grocer Ambleside to recover £35 which was paid to her by a man named HARRISON. HARRISON was in business as a joiner at Ambleside, and in April last, found himself in difficulties and filed his petition for liquidation. When a man filed, it was only fair and reasonable to the other creditors that all should be treated alike and not immediately before filing to pay his money to one or two particular persons by preferment. Any payment of this kind was called "fraudulent preference". In the present instance Wm. HARRISON on 21st April signed a petition for liquidation, and five days previously the sum sought for recovery was paid to Mrs. BARROW. On the 15th of April, he seemed to have disposed of his stock in trade and business for a matter of £90 or £95, and on the 16th, the very day after, he paid her £35. About the same time £45 was paid to HARRISON's wife's aunt, Mrs. MILWARD, who however returned the money. On the 21st April, it was shown that HARRISON owed his creditors £191 9s 6d, and he had only left about £30 to cover his liabilities. Mr. W. HARRISON, who had been subpoenaed, said that when he left Ambleside he kept the Druid's Hotel, Penrith, but had now left and resided in Scotland Road, Penrith. He filed his petition on the 22nd April of the present year, and signed it the day previously. He could not exactly say how long the business had been sold before filing. The business realised £90 odd. He paid money to Mrs. BARROW and Mrs. MILWARD - £35 to the former and £50 to the latter. At the time he paid Mr. FLEMING £7. There were in all 22 creditors. The Judge asked witness why he paid these creditors. Witness: They had been my supporters in business. I could go at times and borrow money. Questioned by Mr. TILLY: Mrs. BARROW is an old friend of mine and Mrs. MILWARD is my wife's aunt. The latter returned the money but I don't know who to. Cross examined by Mr. WATSON: Mrs. BARROW is a poor woman, and I formerly lodged with her. I borrowed £10 from her in 1877, and afterwards £25. I was a little indebted to her for board and lodgings. The money she lent me was withdrawn out of a Co-operative Society. I promised to pay her good interest - 5 per cent. Some months previous to giving her the large payment, I gave her £4, which reduced the balance to £35. I borrowed the £35 from her when I went into business. Mrs. Barrow only asked me once to pay the money back, when I payed her an instalment of £4. She did not come to press me for payment about Candlemas. Eight or ten days before I filed my petition I saw her, and simply said that I should be able to pay her some money before long. I ventured this statement without her asking me for money; but afterwards she said that she was meaning to ask me for payment as she had two travellers to meet. This was the only time I was asked for money by Mrs. BARROW. I did not tell her nor could she have the least suspicion that I was going wrong. I could not say that when I gave her the £4 I promised the balance shortly afterwards, but I might have done. At the time I paid Mrs. BARROW several creditors were pressing me for payment. There were no writs out. I borrowed about £1 from Mrs. BARROW at the time I got married. Mr. FLEMING, who is an architect, was not pressing me at the time for payment. Mrs. BARROW was called for examination and stated that she had pressed HARRISON for payment. The Judge said that the jury should look into the circumstances. HARRISON, just previous to filing, sold his business for £90, with which he paid two creditors, one £35 and the other £50, leaving the other creditors to be content with 3s in the £. It did not matter, as regarded the merits of the case, whether Mrs. BARROW knew anything of the liquidation or not. Mr. WATSON used the term "diligent creditor", but they had had no evidence of pressure for payment in the ordinary and accepted sense of the term. Besides a debtor should divide his money fairly. The jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff, the money to be returned. David Leverton

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Ambleside County Court Ambleside Lakes Herald October 1, 1881 Page 4 Before T.H. Ingham A sitting of this court was held on Thursday last - 5 adjourned summonses, 118 original cases, 13 judgement summonses, 3 adjourned judgement summonses. The undisputed cases were disposed of by the registrar, Geo. GATEY, Esq. Plaintiff, Mr. Joseph SAUL claimed £200 damages from Mr. J. PATTINSON, builder, Bowness. Settled out of court. Mr. SAUL had received a very serous injury some months ago whilst in Pattinson's employ and the claim was entered under the Employers Liability Act. Charles BLADES vs Elizabeth BARROW BLADES, a trustee in the bankruptcy of Mr. HARRISON, joiner, formerly of Ambleside. BLADES seeks to recover £35 from defendant as it was a preferential payment. The money along with another sum amounting to £45 had been paid just previous to the filing of the petition, the £45 had been repaid and he now sought to recover the £35. Mr. HARRISON had been subpoenaed to attend court but was not there, as a result the case could not be proceeded with. Mr. WATSON, solicitor, Kendal appeared for Mrs. BARROW and said she was a widow and it was unlikely that she should be asked to bear the cost of an adjournment. Adjourned to next court. Jas. BURROWS vs John BELL Plaintiff sued for 14s for wages. William BELL appeared on behalf of his father, John BELL. Plaintiff owed defendant for twenty stones of hay and defendant had agreed to let him work part of the wages to go as payment. Judge ordered defendant to pay the 14s and sue for payment of the hay. John TAYLOR vs Thos. GIBSON Mr. H. DOBSON for plaintiff. Mr. Watson for defendant. The case was held before a jury of five consisting of: Mr. CLOUDSDALE, Mr. G. CRAGG, Mr. J. GIBSON, Mr. D. GOULD and Mr. H.W. HERD. Plaintiff a cabinet maker, residing at Kendal. Defendant late an auctioneer living at Ambleside. In 1879 goods had been forwarded to defendant for selling at auction. They were sold for £21 12s 6d at 5% commission (£1 1s 8d). In May 1880 defendant had paid £15 for the goods sold. A setoff was filed for £5 10s, Mr. GIBSON claiming he was entitled to the amount of goods sold in excess of the reserve price plus his commission plus allowance for expenses and storage at 6d per week. Mr. TAYLOR, Mr. GIBSON and Mr. M. HUDDLESTONE (auctioneer, Bowness) were examined and it was stated that the bargain was made to the effect that a reserved price was to be fixed on all articles for sale and that Mr. Gibson was to receive the price above the reserve price. Verdict for defendant. New trial asked for and granted. Ambleside Lakes Herald November 19, 1881 Page 4 Owing to the serious illness of Mrs. INGHAM, we understand that the defended cases scheduled for 25th inst., will be heard December 15th. The registrar will take the undefended cases as usual. David Leverton

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