Try http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/orton_f.html "Hylton Castle, about 2½ miles S.E. of Orton," that is towards Kelleth and would make it some 20 miles or so SW of Kirkby Stephen. http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/cumbria/1901/orton.html informs us that “BALDWIN HOLME township comprises about 2,415 acres, of which the gross estimated rental is £2,934, the ratable value of the land £2,039, and of the buildings £598. The principal landowners are Nicholas Thompson, Esq., John Twentyman, Herbert Hayes, John Harrison, and J.B. Watson. The township contains a small village of its own name, and also Orton Rigg, Little Orton, and Woodhouses. Orton Park, formerly called Hylton Castle, is a beautiful mansion, erected in 1839 by Sir Wastel Brisco. It is now the residence of Mr. N. Thompson, who purchased the estate in 1880. Tempest Tower is the name of a farmhouse in Little Orton, erected by James and Ruth Sibson in 1875. The stone tower, with its battlemented parapet, is a conspicuous object for miles around. Bulmer's History & Directory Of Cumberland, 1901” Hope this gives the lead you are looking for. -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Family Heritage International Sent: 28 September 2009 13:43 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] HILTON CASTLE near Kirkby Stephen We are trying to find the exact location of Hilton Castle, near Kirkby Stephen which is shown in this photograph from the Bowes Collection at Bowes Museum. http://www.thebowesmuseum.org.uk/collections/objects/category/10/11908/ The Post office in Kirkby Stephen had never heard of it. We have reason to believe it might have been in Borrowdale, Westmoreland (not Borrowdale, Cumberland) Can anyone help? Eric AncestryUK, Family Heritage International, Box No.90, The "Original" Washington, England NE37 OYP ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We are trying to find the exact location of Hilton Castle, near Kirkby Stephen which is shown in this photograph from the Bowes Collection at Bowes Museum. http://www.thebowesmuseum.org.uk/collections/objects/category/10/11908/ The Post office in Kirkby Stephen had never heard of it. We have reason to believe it might have been in Borrowdale, Westmoreland (not Borrowdale, Cumberland) Can anyone help? Eric AncestryUK, Family Heritage International, Box No.90, The "Original" Washington, England NE37 OYP

Hello Lynne: These entries are taken from the "British Isles Vital Records Index" and show all the SPENCER offspring who had the parents names of William SPENCER and an Ann, in Kendal, Westmorland, England. You would have to look at the microfilms with these entries in order to 100% prove that they were all belonging to the same William and Ann Spencer. It is possible that both of the entries for a Richard (1836 and 1839) are correct; the first Richard could have died. The 1836 Richard could also have been a twin to the John entry shown above, as they were both Christened 25 Dec. 1836. The Source: FHL Film numbers are what you could use to order the microfilm in to your nearest Mormon Church record office. This British Isles Vital Records Index does not include Deaths/Burials. It does cover Marriages. Later or even tomorrow, I'll take a look at the Marriages for Spencers in Kendal, and also Births and then Marriages in Yorkshire. Hope it helps somewhat ! Barb, Ontario, Canada. SPENCER, John Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 25 Dec 1836 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1835 - 1844 ________________________________________________________________ SPENCER, Richard Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 25 Dec 1836 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1835 - 1844 ________________________________________________________________ SPENCER, Richard Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 24 Nov 1839 Christening Date: 29 Dec 1839 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1835 - 1844 ________________________________________________________________ SPENCER, Margaret Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 24 Mar 1842 Christening Date: 8 May 1842 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1835 - 1844 ________________________________________________________________ SPENCER, John Clackson Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Sep 1849 Christening Date: 14 Oct 1849 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Anne Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1847 - 1901 ________________________________________________________________ SPENCER, Martha Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 11 Apr 1853 Christening Date: 8 May 1853 Recorded in: Kendal, Westmorland, England Father: William SPENCER Mother: Ann Source: FHL Film 1471686 Dates: 1847 - 1901 _________________________________________________________________

Hello Lynne: Just wondering what kind of information you would like to find for your SPENCERs ? Do you have all the census records ? Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <lynne@spamex.com> To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] SPENCER - Kendal/Casterton<<<<

Hi Barb Many thanks for that info, its very useful The names of the children are the same as on the census, so that looks good. I plan on getting the film from my local LDS once I feel more certain about this family and their connection to my Spencers. Appreciate these look ups and look forward to more information if you can find it. Lynne Barb Baker wrote: > * Replies will be sent through Spamex to eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > * For additional info click -> http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=37205980 > > Hello Lynne: > > These entries are taken from the "British Isles Vital Records Index" and show all the SPENCER offspring who had the parents names of William SPENCER and an Ann, in Kendal, Westmorland, England. You would have to look at the microfilms with these entries in order to 100% prove that they were all belonging to the same William and Ann Spencer. > > It is possible that both of the entries for a Richard (1836 and 1839) are correct; the first Richard could have died. The 1836 Richard could also have been a twin to the John entry shown above, as they were both Christened 25 Dec. 1836. > > The Source: FHL Film numbers are what you could use to order the microfilm in to your nearest Mormon Church record office. > > This British Isles Vital Records Index does not include Deaths/Burials. It does cover Marriages. Later or even tomorrow, I'll take a look at the Marriages for Spencers in Kendal, and also Births and then Marriages in Yorkshire. > > Hope it helps somewhat ! > > Barb, Ontario, Canada. > > > >

Hi Barb I'd like to know who William's (1811) father was, if possible, also his grandfather. I have checked the usual sources, IGI, ancestry etc. and not found any information. Got the census info from 1841 to 1911. It is on the 1911 census that I found that a Margaret Spencer was living with my direct Spencer ancestors in Stockport Cheshire. After researching I realised that Margaret was married to Richard Spencer born 1838 Kendal, whose father was William 1811. My line of Spencers originated from Huddersfield Yorkshire, and I am wondering if this family originated from there also. There are many similarities between the two families, names of children, occupations. If they did originate from Huddersfield, it is quite possible that they are a cousin. I live in California and would appreciate any help anyone can give. Lynne Barb Baker wrote: * Replies will be sent through Spamex to [1]eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com * For additional info click -> [2]http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=37205980 Hello Lynne: Just wondering what kind of information you would like to find for your SPENCERs ? Do you have all the census records ? Barb, Ontario, Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: [3]<lynne@spamex.com> To: [4]<ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] SPENCER - Kendal/Casterton<<<< ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]ENG-WESTMORLAND-reques t@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject an d the body of the message References 1. mailto:eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com 2. http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=37205980 3. mailto:lynne@spamex.com 4. mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com

Hello I am researching a Richard SPENCER born 1839 Kendal. His father was William SPENCER born about 1811 at Casterton (according to census). William was married to Ann, possible marriage is Ann Jackson 1836 at Heversham. Richard SPENCER married Margaret M - no date. They had several children born in Kendal and then moved to Heaton Norris, Lancashire/Cheshire, where a son Herbert was born in 1887. Richard was Joiner by trade, as was his father. I would be very interested in any information anyone has on this family or if anyone can point me in the right direction to obtain more information. Many thanks Lynne

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. FORSTER's LIFE OF DICKENS. The third volume of MR. FORSTER's "Life of Charles Dickens" has been issued. MR. FORSTER, after describing the circumstances under which he commenced his public readings, characterised as "The Plunge", thus records his separation from his wife: "Exactly a fortnight after the reading for the Children's Hospital, on Thursday, the 29th April, came the first public reading for his own benefit; and before the next month was over this launch into a new life had been followed by a change in his old home. Thereforward he and his wife lived apart. The eldest son went with his mother, DICKENS at once giving effect to her expressed wish in this respect; and the other children remained with himself, their intercourse with MRS. DICKENS being left entirely to themselves. It was thus far an arrangement of a strictly private nature, and no decent person could have had excuse for regarding it in any other light, if public attention had not been unexpectedly invited to it by a printed statement in "Household Words". DICKENS was stung by this, by some miserable gossip at which in ordinary circumstances no man would more determinedly have been silent; but he had now publicly to show himself, at stated times, as a public entertainer, and this, even with his name even so aspersed, he found to be impossible. All he would concede to my strenuous resistance against such a publication, was an offer to suppress it, if upon reference to the opinion of a certain distinguished man (still living) that opinion should prove to be in agreement with mine. Unhappily it fell in with his own, and the publication went on. It was followed by another statement, a letter subscribed with his name, which got into print without his sanction, nothing publicly being know of it (I was not among those who had read it privately), until it appeared in the New York Tribune. It had been addressed and given to MR. ARTHUR SMITH as an authority for correction of false rumours and scandals, and MR. SMITH had given a copy of it, with like intention, to the Tribune correspondent in London. Its writer referred to it always afterwards as his " violated letter ". The course taken by the author of this book at the time of these occurrences will not be departed from here. Such illustration of grave defects in DICKENS's character as the passage in his life affords I have not shrunk from placing side by side with such excuses in regard to it as he had unquestionable right to claim, should be put forward also. How far what remained of his story took tone or colour from it, and especially from the altered career on which at the same time he entered, will thus be sufficiently explained; and with anything else the public have nothing to do. **********************************************************************************************

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. FEARFUL MURDER AT PLYMOUTH. A fearful murder was perpetrated in Plymouth on Wednesday afternoon. Three years ago, a suit for nullity of marriage was prosecuted by a MRS. SWEET, formerly MISS WATTS, of the Globe Hotel. The suit was unsuccessful, and after MR. SWEET had been abroad for a few months, he returned, and the two settled down together, residing at 46, Clifton-place. They have since September last been living together, apparently on excellent terms. However, when they were at home and in their bedroom a quarrel arose, originating in his wishing for some pomade for his toilet. MR. SWEET proposed to send the servant out for some,and MRS. SWEET objected. The servant (EMILY DONOVAN) was sent, and on her return found her mistress lying on the floor, fearfully wounded. It appears that the unfortunate young man had run his wife completely through the head with sword,, the weapon entering one temple and coming out at the other. The struggle between them appears to have been a severe one. MRS. SWEET having received several cuts and gashes across the wrist and arm in vain attempts to defend herself. The body of her dress was also torn open. The altercation took place about a quarter-past three o'clock, and at five-and-twenty minutes to four MRS. SWEET expired. On the servant entering the house, MR. SWEET left it, ran to the cab-stand at the head of Torrington-place, and ordered the cabman to drive to the Guildhall. Arrived there, he went into the magistrate's room, and began to throw about the books, and, the cabman being unable to obtain his fare, seized SWEET's hat, and went round to the adjoining police office and gave information. Inspector MURCH found SWEET gesticulating wildly. He took his keys and money out of his pocket and threw them out of the window, and raved incoherently. He was led down to the police-office, and was laid on his back, where he for a considerable time groaned and muttered about BATES and the election. The police could not detect any smell of drink in his breath, but as he asked repeatedly for water and seemed so strange, the divisional surgeon, MR. STEVENS, was sent for, and soon arrived. SWEET spoke something about having taken nitrate of soda three times a day to ward off attacks; but little importance could be attached to such intimations, as he was manifestly either intoxicated or was affected by real or feigned madness. The fearful occurrence caused the greatest excitement, and crowds gathered round the house in which deceased lay. ___________________________________________________________________ On Thursday morning SYLVANUS SWEET, who killed his wife on the previous day, was brought before the magistrates at Plymouth charged with murder. The female servant of the prisoner stated that all day up to the time of the catastrophe, her master and mistress were on the best terms; that towards evening, when they were about to go upstairs to dress for an evening party, she overhead the prisoner saying to his wife that he should like to have a little pomade, to which she replied, though not in an angry tone, that he "shouldn't have any"; that they then both went upstairs shortly, after which the prisoner sent her out for a pot of pomade, telling her to place it on the parlour-table, and that he would come down and fetch it. She went out as directed, and the murder was committed during her ten minutes absence. The deceased lingered in a moaning state for about 20 minutes. The prisoner made no defence, and was remanded. ============================================================

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. THE MAIDEN'S CHOICE. Oh! give me the life of a farmer's wife, In the fields and woods so bright, 'Mong the singing birds and the lowing herds, And the clover blossoms white; The note of the morning's heavenward lark Is the music sweet for me, And the dewy flowers in the early hours The gems I love to see. Oh! give me the breeze from the waving trees. The murmur of summer leaves, And the swallow's song as she skips along, Or twitters beneath the eaves; The ploughman's shout, as he's turning out His team at set of sun, Or his merry good-night by the firefly's light, When his daily work is done. And give me the root and the luscious fruit, My own hands rear for food, And the bread so light and honey white, And the milk so pure and good; For sweet the bread of labour is, When the heart is strong and true, And a blessing will come to the hearth and home, If our best we bravely do. **********************************************************************************************

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. CATTLE DISEASES - Two fresh outbreaks of pleuro-pneumonia in Cumberland; and 2 animals have been slaughtered. Scab is upon six farms in Cumberland, where 120 sheep are affected. In Westmorland scab is upon two farms, where 20 sheep are affected. MEETING OF CREDITORS. - On Thursday a meeting of the creditors of MR. JOHN IRVING, of Carlisle, was held in the office of his solicitor, MR. BENDLE. The statement submitted by the debtor showed that his liabilities are £42,000 odd. The assets are estimated at £2,700 odd, along with £10,000 shares in PETER DIXON AND SONS (LIMITED), reduced to £9,2?0 by payments to the debtor on account. The meeting resolved to realize the assets and let the question of the disposal of the shares stand over.

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. SCENES AT A REPUBLICAN STATE BALL. Under the Republic the French Court seems to have lost but little, if any, of that splendour and brilliancy for which it became so distinguished during the reign of the late Emperor. PRESIDENT MAC MAHON gave a ball at the Elysee which is said never to have been surpassed by any previous fete held in that palace. Describing the scene, a correspondent of the Times telegraphs: The Elysee was lit up a giorno, and a dense but quiet crowd had gathered along the four facades of the palace. In passing in front of the carriages as they drew up to take their place in the queue one could see the gaily-coloured ball dresses and anxious looks of the ladies, who, in some of the carriages, had been waiting for two hours, and who still remained in the midst of the Place de la Concorde. On approaching the palace the coup d'oeil became more striking. Many of the ladies, having lost all patience, had left their carriages in the midst of the Champs Elysees or the neighbouring streets, and were seen bare headed, with flowers and gems in their hair, thin satin slippers, and slight scarfs over their bare shoulders, nervously lifting the skirts of their white dresses, and running along the wet street in order to reach on foot the doors of the Elysee, anxious alike to escape from the bitter cold and the prying glances of the crowd. >From time to time there was a cry heard when one of these ladies saw a carriage draw up and close the entrance against those arriving on foot. In the interior of the court the scene was unique. In spite of the slowness with which the carriages seemed to advance, great numbers entered by the Avenue de Elysee, and followed each other continuously. Above the flight of steps and under the peristyle, a strict examination was made to ascertain the identity of the persons provided with cards. This scrutiny was so strict, and it was so difficult afterwards to reach the dressing room, that not more than ten persons per minute could enter, while in the same space of time, sixty were arriving. As the guests left their carriages, they rushed up the steps, where they waited their turn. The staircase then presented a most extraordinary scene. The enormous, closely-packed crowd had a motley and strange appearance in the glare of the thousands of lamps which lighted up the court. >From below the staircase, one could see crests and helmets, flowers and precious stones, swaying and glittering in the light. From time to time, an officer's spur would get entangled in a lady's dress, and make her scream as it tore out a shred. Late at night it was certain that if the orders were not withdrawn and the strict regulations were continued, it would not be till two or three o'clock in the morning that some of the guests would be able to get admission. But as the appearance of the court, thus unexpectedly converted into a sort of drawing-room, in which ball dresses, decorations,uniforms, and black dresses were mingled, afforded a curious spectacle, those even who did not find admission had some compensation for their efforts and long waiting. A great crowd is one of the conditions of a successful ceremony, and in this respect, in brilliancy, and in animation it may be said that no fete has surpassed that in which the guests of the President of the French Republic involuntarily took part. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. BOARDING & DAY SCHOOL FOR YOUNG LADIES, White House, Appleby, Westmorland. (Late High Cross Seminary) MRS. and the MISSES WRIGHT having REMOVED to the above most commodious premises, will be prepared to receive a much larger number of Young Ladies as resident Pupils after the Christmas Holidays, which will terminate Monday, Jan. 19th, 1874. A thorough English Education, combined with home comforts, and six accomplishments. Terms and references on applications to the principals. ___________________________________________________________________ EDUCATION. MR. BRIGGS, C.M., 1st Div. 1st Class, for 17 years Teacher of the Yanwath School, intends, after Christmas vacation, to OPEN A BOARDING AND DAY SCHOOL AT SOCKBRIDGE HOUSE, NEAR PENRITH. Sockbridge House is large and commodious, is situate in a healthy locality, stands detached, and is well adapted for the above purpose. The course will include thorough English, Bookkeeping, Languages, Higher Mathematics, Land Surveying (practical with Planning). Pupils prepare for the Civil Service and Middle Class Examinations. The Diet will be liberal. Boarders taken weekly or yearly. For references (which will be supplied by clergymen, gentlemen, parents of pupils, and former pupils, many of whom are holding important offices), terms, &c., apply to MR. JAMES BRIGGS. Yanwath, Penrith Dec. 4th, 1873. ___________________________________________________________________ HOLT HOUSE SCHOOL, CHESHUNT, N. (Fifteen Miles North of London - Cambridge Line.) Conducted by PROFESSOR TODHUNTER, M.A., GOLD MEDALLIST OF LONDON UNIVERSITY Fellow of University College. THE Course of Study is especially arranged to meet the requirements of the Oxford and Cambridge Local Examinations, Matriculation at the London University, and of Commercial pursuits. PROFESSOR TODHUNTER has had a great many years' experience in teaching, and devotes great attention to the moral discipline and religious training of his pupils. A report as to progress and conduct sent periodically to parents. Terms inclusive. No charge for Books, &c. For further particulars, apply as above. ____________________________________________________________________

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. AS IT IS. - "Sir, - A short time since, you did me the honour to notice my report on the adulteration of Caper, a black tea, much used in the northern counties. I have made a further analysis of other teas; the results I beg permission to make known through "The Times" . Of 18 samples, all were found to be adulterated. They were all artifically coloured or faced with Prussian blue, turmeric, and a mineral powder. The substances used in facing tea serve no useful purpose, but help to render practicable other more serious adulterations. I am, your obedient servant, ARTHUR HILL HASSALL, M.D. " 2, Adelphi-terrace, Strand, London, January 7th. To the Editor of "The Times". AS IT OUGHT TO BE. - "I visited the Docks, where tea imported by MESSRS. HORNIMAN, is in Bond. I took samples, which I analysed, and found genuine, and free from color. Now the public have the choice of tea perfectly pure (secured in packets), they will not be slow in deciding between it [and] that which is colored." (Signed) "ARTHUR HILL HASSALL, M.D." ============================================================

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. ANN MUSCROFT, wife of a cutler, living in Lambert-street, Sheffield, is in custody on a serious charge. Some boys were playing near her house, when she rushed out, seized one of them named JOHN REARDON, and beat him on the head until he was rendered unconscious. The boy's life has remained in jeopardy since. ___________________________________________________________________ PROTESTANT MEETINGS IN LONDON. - On Tuesday afternoon the long announced public meeting to express sympathy with the EMPEROR OF GERMANY in his quarrel with the POPE was held at St. James's Hall. The chair was taken by SIR JOHN MURRAY, of Philiphaugh, who was supported by the DEAN OF CANTERBURY, SIR ROBERT PEEL, MR. C. N. NEWDEGATE, MR. A. KINNAIRD, SIR T. CHAMBERS, LORD A. CHURCHILL, &c. The chairman delivered a message from EARL RUSSELL, who was to have presided, expressing regret at his absence in consequence of the state of his health, and his entire sympathy with the object of the meeting; his lordship adding that the letter of the EMPEROR OF GERMANY of September last had sounded a note of timely warning to the British nation. A resolution, speaking with admiration of the EMPEROR's letter, was carried with acclamation; and the chairman was requested to communicate to his MAJESTY that resolution, and another of a similar character. An evening meeting of the same kind took place at Exeter Hall. ___________________________________________________________________ IN SATURDAY's SITTING of the French National Assembly at Versailles, M. LOCKROY was twice called to order - once for calling the conservatives the "spoliatory classes." ____________________________________________________________________ CANDIDATES MOBBED. The Conservative electors in Worcester took their revenge for the disturbance created in their meeting on the previous night. MESSRS. SHERRIFF and HILL, the Radical candidates, were announced to speak in the Guildhall. At the appointed time the hall was crammed to suffocation with an excited crowd, some of whom were evidently bent on mischief. Men scaled the walls, swarmed the windows, and filled the platform. The candidates failed to get a hearing, as every time a speaker stood up the groaning and hooting became deafening. Men exhibited placards bearing the Conservative candidates' names, and these were the signals of fierce struggles to follow. After waiting for a long time, during which the noise increased, and finding it impossible to get a hearing, the Liberal candidates left the Guildhall, and spoke from the windows of their committee room. The streets were filled by excited crowds, who pounced upon MR. AIREY, the working man's candidate (who had previously retired from the contest), and mobbed him to such an extent that he was glad to take refuge in a passing cab; but finding that the vehicle afforded him no adequate protection from the violence of the crowds that surrounded it, he managed with difficulty to find sanctuary in the railway station, the doors of which were then shut. ___________________________________________________________________ THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT will require, it is estimated, 240,000 tons of rice to provide for the subsistence of 2,500,000 persons, being 10 per cent. of the population, for seven months. The secured quantity is 342,000 tons, which supply has been obtained at a cost of £3,000,000. The reserve stores, it will be seen, exceed 100,000 tons. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PENRITH HERALD and EAST CUMBERLAND and WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 438-Sixth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission Abroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 7, 1874. PRICE 1D. TOWN TALK. By Our Special Correspondent. Our readers will understand that we do not hold ourselves responsible for our able Correspondent's opinions. The election, and nothing but the election fills up the conversation everywhere, although there never was one at which both parties were so hard up for a cry. MR. DISRAELI's Tadpole and Taper, who, thirty years ago, tried our "Young Queen and Old Institutions" would now scarcely venture on our "Old Queen and New Institutions." As for the addresses, except where some advanced Liberal cries out for a clean shave - a forcible application of a political mowing machine - to all existing institutions, there is very little difference, and the wealthy Conservative and wealthy Liberal both play the same tune with very slight variations. As to the London papers, the Times supports and patronises the Ministers; the Daily News is working hard to heal the breach with the Nonconformists it has done so much to create; and the Telegraph, as usual, in Yankee phrase, goes blind for GLADSTONE. The Saturday Review, like the Pall Mall Gazette, shows impartial contempt for both parties; while the Spectator, for the present, pardons the Ministers for not going to war with Germany for the sake of France, and upholds the finance of MR. GLADSTONE, who the Saturday Review and Pall Mall so heartily despise. Before these lines are printed, the majority of the elections will be decided. There can be no doubt that the Liberal majority, if not extinguished, will be largely cut into, and that the Conservatives, undivided by any important difference, will present a numerous and compact body, only wanting a younger leader than MR. DISRAELI with his eloquence, or the tact and temper of the EARL OF DERBY in the House of Commons. The friend at whose house I am writing this letter, ten miles from a post town, has retired from a contest in a borough of medium population, where he was returned at the last general election triumphantly at the top of the poll, simply on his pledge to support MR. GLADSTONE, beating a local Conservative of great and deserved influence. On this occasion his course was settled by a series of deputations from parties who had previously supported him, as a matter of course First came the licensed victuallers to extract a pledge; next the Good Templars, the Permissive Bill advocates, and other teetotallers on the other side. The Liberation Society, requiring the Disestablishment of the Church, and the Nonconformists, who would be satisfied with the repeal of clause 25 of the Education Act, were followed by a compact body of Secularists, who insisted on School Boards being everywhere established, universal compulsion, and purely secular education. The Peace Society, with some highly-respectable Quakers at their head, wanted all international disputes referred to arbitration, including that with KING KOFFEE of Coomassie, if there was time. The working men came up in a body, and insisted that no trades unionists should be punished for breach of contract, picketing, rattening, or otherwise carrying out the rules of trades unions. There were also individual constituents, representing their four or five votes each, who required respectively that endowed charities should not be interfered with; that the pay of civil servants and postmen should be raised. A retired Common Councilman of the City of London, who commanded five votes, bargained that reform of the London Corporation should be opposed, and that Christ's Hospital, in which he had educated one son and hoped to educate another, should not be interfered with. These were all old friends and supporters. Of course all the parsons, all relations of military officers, and all the officials of charitable and school endowments were against him; so, after sleeping on the result of these interviews, and finding that he was between fire and water, and not inclined to go to Parliament, bound hand and foot, he retired to private life, a disappointed man; withdrew his subscriptions from all the local institutions for the lease of a house in London, in the hands of an agent for sale, and told his daughters that they must give up the idea of being invited this season, or ever, to the Buckingham Palace balls. There are a good many in the same hole as my friend, who have not had the sense to retire before being kicked out. No one seems to have noticed that the malt tax grievance, which has done such good service for years at agricultural dinners, has entirely disappeared from the addresses of county members; nor do we hear any more of MR. DISRAELI's "Sanitas sanitatum*omnia sanitas." But, however the elections turn out, everything will go on much as usual. No past Act will be repealed, and rotten endowments and corporations will be in as much danger under the EARL OF DERBY as under LORD ABERDARE. The licensed victuallers will be disappointed, although the great names of ALLSEPP and BASS are returned without opposition for a division of Staffordshire. P.P. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hi everyone! Had a good start to the morning with Barb's e-mails- just shows that those from the NW always had a sense of humour, even the law!!!! Just a general request- I am still trying to find out where/when Thomas KNIPE [married in Plumbland 1815 and died in Maryport 1842] was born-probably around 1780. [He is neither the Thomas Knipe from Uldale nor is he the one from Baildon.] If you find any research relating to KNIPE prior to 1800 please pass it on to me and I will sift through it. There is evidence of Knipes in Westmorland as far back as 1300. Have a great day from a very chilly Durban SA-which is normally very sub-tropical!!!!!!! Bev

Many apologies, excited by the mention of a Mr Whitehead I wanted to send the information to a Whitehead relative but accidentally sent it back to the list, very sorry. Marjorie

Do you think the Mr Whitehead mentioned here could be one of yours?