AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================= The following report was presented at the meeting of the Rural Sanitary Authority at Appleby on the 14th instant: ................. Kirkby Lonsdale, Feb. 4th, 1874. During the quarter ending December 31st, the births of 99 children, and the deaths of 80 persons, of both sexes, were registered. The natural increase of population was thus 19. On the whole the health of the fourth, or winter quarter, was satisfactory. The birth rate was equivalent to 23 births annually to every 1,000 of the estimated population. The proportion of illegitimate to every 100 births was 14:1. The death rate, last quarter, was equal to a yearly mortality of 18:6 per 1,000. The percentage of deaths of children under one year of age, to total deaths, was 16.2, and measured in relation to the births registered was 21.2. The influence of season upon the death rate was shewn in the increase of deaths from diseases of the respiratory organs, the numbers being 9 as against 1 in the previous quarter. The great duration of life in the district was exemplified by the deaths at advanced ages, 23 being referred to persons from 60 to 80 years, and one at the extreme age of 92. The mortality from zymotic or infectious diseases was equal to an annual ratio of 1.6 per 1,000, nearly identical with the favourable state which prevailed in the preceding quarter. Last quarter I made a special report upon the sanitary difficiencies and requirements of Kirkbythore, to which was attached the result of a chemical examination of the drinking water obtained from several of the wells. It is now instructive to know that lately, during the progress of the sewage works there, animal remains, and evidences of accumulated organic impurities, were discovered within a few feet of the particular well from which those families, in which typhoid fever and diarrhoea broke out, chiefly drew their supply, thus clenching, in a remarkable manner, the results of the analysis, and completing the chain of evidence against the suspected origin of the mischief. DAVID PAGE, M.D., Medical Officer of Health. Deaths for quarter ending Dec. 31, 1873..............................80 (Equivalent to an annual mortality of 18.6 per 1,000 living) Mortality of Preceding quarter.............................................71 Enumerated population in. 1871. Appleby..............................6622. Kirkby Stephen...................7160. Orton..................................3155. ........................................._____ Total 16937. Mortality as to age. Under 1 year...............21 1 to 5 years...................5 2 to 20 years.................9 20 to 40 years...............9 40 to 60 years..............12 60 to 80 years..............21 80 to 90 years................2 90 and upwards.............1 Mortality as to age. Under 1 year................21 1 to 5 years....................5 2 to 20 years..................9 20 to 40 years................9 40 to 60 years...............12 60 to 80 years...............21 80 to 90 years.................2 90 and upwards.............1 Mortality as to disease Brain..............................8 Heart..............................4 Chest............................. Bronchitis.................6 Pneumonia..............1 Pleurisy....................1 Other........................1 Phthisis.............................8 Scrofula............................3 Abdomen........................10 Debility...........................12 Old Age............................9 Injuries.............................. Railway....................1 Drowning Sunstroke Lightning Suffocation Otherwise..................2 Other Causes...........14 Mortality as to Zygmotic Diseases. Typhoid fever, 5; measles, 1; croup, 3; diarrhoea and dysentry 1. Births for the Quarter. Males.....................Legitimate 48............Illegitimate 9 Females.................Legitimate 37............Illegitimate 5 Total.........................................85.............................14

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================ WEST WARD UNION. The ordinary fortnightly meeting was held on Wednesday last, at the Board Room, Eamont Bridge, MR. JAMES ATKINSON, chairman, presiding. The only guardians present were the REV. W. R. MARKHAM, REV. G. F. WESTON, CAPT. MARKHAM, MR. LONGRIGG, MR. MACHELL, MR. BIRD, and MR. A. WILSON. DR. PAGE was present, and read the following report of the health of West Ward Sanitary District: ...... During the quarter ending December 31st, 49 births and 36 deaths were registered. The natural increase of population was therefore 13. BIRTHS. - the birth rate was equal to 23.6 per 1,000 of the estimated population. The proportion of illegitimate to every 100 births was 16.2. DEATHS. - the death rate was equivalent to a yearly mortality of 17.3 per 1,000 persons living. The proportion of deaths of children under 1 year of age to the total number was 30.5, and to births registered 22.4. The influence of weather on the death rate is shown by the increase in the mortality from diseases of the respiratory organs over the returns of the previous quarter, when 3 deaths under 1 year were registered, against 11 deaths in the present return. The mortality from zymotic or infectious diseases was at the rate of 2.8 per 1,000, and included a total number of 6 deaths, three of which were referred to diarrhoea, 2 to measles, and 1 to typhoid fever. In the case of the latter disease, the cause was traceable to the use of a polluted water supply. DAVID PAGE, M.C., Medical Officer of Health. A conversation afterwards ensued on the sewerage of Shap, and the sanitary condition of Pooley Bridge. With reference to the latter place, DR. PAGE said that consumption had been in past years a common disease, owing to the lowness of the situation, and the soil being waterlogged. Two privies, one near the house of ANN SIMPSON and the other near to the bridge, were named as being exceedingly offensive, and calculated to be injurious to health. He recommended that they should both be removed from the present site, and it was therefore ordered that the necessary notices be served on the owners to rebuild them in the gardens at a distance from the dwellings.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. =========================================== LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. CONCERT AT LANGWATHBY. - A concert was held in the School-room, Langwathby, on Tuesday evening, being the last of a series of entertainments, for this winter, in aid of the School Building Fund. The readings, given once a fortnight, were well attended and seemed to give great satisfaction to the people assembled on every occasion; but the wind up was patronized by an overflowing house, the school being literally crammed, many not being able to obtain seats, and even the performers had to be accommodated in the class-room. The proceeds of the evening were about £5, which, we trust, will enable the committee to declare the school and class-rooms clear of all encumbrance. The following programme was most efficiently rendered, the performers being heartily applauded by the audience. Instrumental duet..............Le Prophete.........Miss E & H. PORTEUS Song.................The Village Blacksmith.........Mr. TAYLOR Glee..................The Village Choristers..........The Glee Class Song.................Oh Play that Air Again..........Mr. BROCKLEBANK Duet..................Hearts and Homes.................Miss HODGSON Instrumental......Selection..............................Miss SMITH Trio...................Winds Gently Whisper..........Glee Class Song.................The Bashful Man...................Mr. HARDY Quartet..............Blue Bells of Scotland..........Glee Class Song..................Clear and Cool.....................Miss PORTEUS Part 2: Instrumental duet...........Il Travatore.............Misses E & H PORTEUS Song............................Friends of My Youth...Mr. TAYLOR Duet...............We are Two Roving Minstrels..Messrs. HARDY and Brocklebank Glee..........Oh who will o'er the Downs..........Glee Class Song.............................Susan's Story............Miss A. HODGSON Glee.......Now is the Month of Maying............Glee Class Song.......Her Bright Smile Haunts Me Still....Mr. KIDD Duet........Home to Our Mountains..................Miss HODGSON and Mr. BROCKLEBANK Song.......Come into the Garden Maud...........Mr. BROCKLEBANK Song.......The Whistling Thief.........................Mr. HARDY God Save The Queen. At the conclusion, a vote of thanks was *****************, by MR. **************************************Rev. Canon **********************.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. =========================================== LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. SALE OF THE OLD WESLEYAN CHAPEL, PENRITH. - On Thursday last, the building known as the Wesleyan Chapel, together with the vestries and a cottage house, were offered to public competition at the George Assembly Room, Penrith. Offers were made for the chapel and vestries as Lot 1, and for the cottage and yard as Lot 2; and also for the whole in one lot. In the latter form, £1,000 was offered by MR. RICHARD HARRISON, of Newbiggin; and for the two lots above named, £250 was bid for the cottage by MR. JACKSON, plumber, and £760 for the chapel and vestries by MR. THOS. HODGSON, auctioneer, making a total of £1,010. MR. HARRISON then offered £1,050 for the whole, and no further offer being made, the trustees consulted in private with MR. FAIRER, their solicitor, for a short time, and on their return, the upset price was announced as £1,250. No advance being made on this sum, the property was withdrawn, but we understand that MR. HARRISON afterwards became the purchaser at £1,200. MR. JOHN JACKSON was the auctioneer. ___________________________________________________________ DACRE : THE HASELL MEMORIAL. - At Carlisle Consistory Court, on Tuesday last, MR. SAUL applied for a faculty to enable the incumbent and churchwardens of Dacre to make certain important alterations and reparations in the parish church of Dacre. These involved the taking down of the gallery at the west end of the church, the removal of the pulpit and reading desk, font, communion table, and sittings; the taking down of the ceiling, taking the plaster off the walls, taking down the chancel arch, inserting a new arch of greater height; the opening out of the Norman arch of the tower; the reslating of the roof; the rebuilding of the battlements of the tower; the taking down of the east gable and rebuilding the same with a new east window; the reseating of the church; the rebuilding of the walls of the tower and battlements, and inserting a new window; taking the rough cast off the outside walls and repointing them; and to do other things specified. The total cost of the alterations will be £2,000. Of that sum £1,500 will be provided from the Hasell memorial fund, and the work was divided into sections to suit that arrangement. The Chancellor urged the importance of having the whole of work done at once, and adjourned the case till next court, in order that the vicar might appear, and that the committee of parishioners might arrange for the execution of the whole work, and to give a guarantee for the total estimated cost.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================== LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. PENRITH HORSE FAIR. - On Tuesday last, a horse fair was held in Sandgate, Penrith, when the show in all classes was a very secondary affair. Horses for agricultural purposes were most numerously represented, but though many in the class were fair useful animals, there were only two or three really superior animals. Long prices were asked, the highest being £90, whilst £40 to £50 was seriously asked for horses which a few years ago would not have been looked at if the owners had offered them at £20. Harness horses and ponies were almost unrepresented, and for what were shown, correspondingly high prices were demanded. This put a check upon trade, and only an odd animal or two changed hands. The chief fair will be held on Tuesday next. NARROW ESCAPE FROM BEING KILLED AT WORKINGTON. - On Friday, MR. JONATHAN CRAIG, a time-keeper in the employment of the West Cumberland Iron and Steel Company (Limited), at Workington, had a narrow escape from being killed. He was walking along a line of railway between the blast furnace and the steel works, and in his anxiety to avoid a train that was coming towards him, he did not observe that some waggons, pushed by a locomotive, were coming behind him. He was knocked down by the first waggon, and fell right between the rails. The whole of the waggons, sixteen in number, and the locomotive passed over him without doing him any injury. Beyond the shock caused by being knocked down by the waggon, MR. CRAIG was none the worse for the accident.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================= LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. HEAVY EGG. - A hen belonging to MRS. WHITFIELD, of Renwick, laid an egg which weighed a quarter of a pound. MISS HARRIET WOOD, youngest daughter of MR. CHARLES WOOD, Lyulph's Wood, formerly pupil of The Watermillock Girl's School, has gained a second class Queen's Scholarshiip, London College, at the Christmas examination. CATTLE DISEASES. - In Cumberland during the past week, there were two fresh outbreaks of pleure-pneumonia. This disease exists upon four farms, and three animals have been slaughtered. Scab is on six farms, where ten sheep are affected. In Westmoreland scab is on two farms, where two farms are diseased. PENRITH WESLEYAN CHAPEL. - The REV. W. SPIERS, of Headingley College, preached two sermons in the above place on behalf of the Wesleyan Home Missions. The congregation was large - both morning and evening. The collections amounted to £8 14s. 6-1/2d. the annual meeting was held on Wednesday, and was addressed by the REV. M'DONALD, and other members, C. FAIRER, Esq., presiding. ANNIVERSARY SUPPER. - On Wednesday evening last, the members of the Mutual Help Sick Benefit Society, held their first anniversary in the Primitive Methodist School-room, Penrith. After supper the REV. J. COOPER addressed the members, congratulating them on the progress they had made, and the substantial surplus carried over to next year, and in appropriate terms advocated benefit societies holding their meetings apart from public house influence. After a few encouraging remarks from other members, a pleasant meeting was brought to a close by singing the doxology. THOS. PATRICKSON, Old London Road, is the secretary of the society, which is deserving of consideration of all who are desirous of making provision in case of sickness or death.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================ DEATHS. COATES - At 38, Albert-street, Penrith, on the 13th inst., MR. THOS. COATES, blacksmith, aged 34. ROBSON - At Glenridding, Patterdale, on the 6th inst., Wm. ROBSON, miner, aged 29 years. HINDSON - At Mere Hey, Everton, Liverpool, on the 7th inst., JOS. HINDSON, in his 56th year. HUTCHINSON - At Winton Field, on the 9th, THOS., third son of MR. JOHN HUTCHINSON, aged 7 years. ELLISON - At Winton, on the 13th inst., MR. JOHN ELLISON, aged 66 years. WATSON - At Cliburn, on the 10th inst., ELIZABETH, wife of MR. JOHN WATSON, aged 55 years. GALLOWAY - At Wigton, on the 13th inst., DR. JAS. GALLOWAY, son of the late MR. GALLOWAY, of the George Hotel, Penrith, aged 42. THOMPSON - In Factory Yard, Penrith, on the 10th inst., JOSEPH THOMPSON, aged 37 years. SALKELD - At Greystoke, on the 13th inst., MRS. JANE SALKELD, aged 77 years. SQUIRES - At Greystoke, on the 3rd inst., MR. W. SQUIRES, aged 73 years. ALDERSON - At the Railway Cottage, Orton Low Moor, on the 10th, JANE D. ALDERSON, aged 5. SINTON - At Kirkbythore, on the 8th, ELIZABETH, wife of MR. ROBT. SINTON, aged 42. HUGGINSON - At Brough, on the 13th inst., MR. BRIAN HUGGINSON, aged 79 years. STUDHOLME - at Murton, on the 16th inst., ELIZABETH, daughter of MR. GEORGE STUDHOLME, aged 2 years. BARNES - at Brough, on the 13th inst., EMILY BARNES, aged 2 years. HINDSON - At Culgaith, on the 18th inst., FRANCES HINDSON, aged 37 years. JACKSON - At Appleby, on Wednesday the 18th inst., MR. FRANCIS JACKSON, plumber, aged 33 years.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. =========================================== MARRIAGES. JOHNSON - ION - At the Register Office, Appleby, on the 14th inst., MR. JOHN JOHNSON, railway engine fireman, New Shildon, to EMMA, daughter of MR. ION, of Knock. TUER - WATT - At the Register Office, Appleby, on the 14th inst., MR. GEORGE TUER, iron-ore miner, Kaber, to MISS HANNAH WATT, of Kirkbythore. BUTLER-LATHAM - At Weaste, near Manchester, on the 5th inst., by the REV. H. J. CARTER, vicar, the REV. S. J. BUTLER, M.A., vicar of Penrith, to EMILY, youngest daughter of ARTHUR LATHAM, Esq., late of Liverpool. WINTER-GRAHAM - At the Register Office, Appleby, on the 18th inst., THOMAS WINTER, of Aisgill Moor, Mallerstang, to MARY ELIZABETH GRAHAM, of the same place. NICHOLSON-HOPES - At Brough, on the 14th inst., by the REV. WM. LYDE, M.A., MR. EDWARD NICHOLSON, shoemaker, Brough, to MISS JANE ANN HOPES, of Usworth, near Washington, Northumberland.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================ BIRTHS. LITTLE - At Abbot Bank, Penrith, on the 12th inst., the wife of W. LITTLE, esq., of a daughter. SCOTT - At Pleasant View, Shap, on the 11th inst., the wife of MR. JOS. SCOTT, of a daughter.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. =========================================== ACCIDENT TO A MAIL TRAIN. TWO LIVES LOST. A serious accident occurred yesterday morning to the limited mail near to Euxton Station, south of Preston. It appears that a goods train and a coal train were both brought to a stand still by some wagons that had got detached from a train which had been shunting, and whilst thus on the line, the mail train dashed into the coal train with fearful velocity. The engine driver and stoker were both killed, and a number of persons were seriously injured, among whom was the guard - a man named HARRISON, whose father resides in Penrith. The wreck was fearful, and it was many hours before the line was cleared for traffic. The train which ran into the coal train was due to pass Penrith about four o'clock in the morning, but it did not pass till about ten o'clock, in consequence of which the delivery of letters throughout the town and postal district was correspondingly delayed.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================ ACQUITTAL OF DR. MCLEOD. At the Carlisle Assizes yesterday, DR. MCLEOD, surgeon-major in the Madras army, surrendered his bail on a charge of manslaughter, it being alleged that his wife, ANNIE MCLEOD, died through the culpable administration of overdoses of morphia in October last, at Carlisle. Prisoner was acquitted.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================= WATERLOO COURSING. This great coursing meeting commenced on Wednesday last, and finished yesterday, with the following results:- CUP - Magnano, 1st; Surprise, 2nd; Fugitive, 3rd; Diacticus, 4th. PURSE - Muriel and Progress divided 1st and 2nd; Success, 3rd, Scaltheene, 4th. PLATE - Gallant Foe, 1st; White Slave, 2nd; Protector, 3rd; Claret, 4th.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. =========================================== A POEM. FISH AND FLY. Sweet William, did you ever fish For trout with mimic flies ? The British nation, as you wish, Does not appear to rise. 'Tis clear you've failed to imitate The genuine insect, quite; You've taken nothing by your bait: The people would not bite. No doubt that income-tax repeal Had been a taking fly, If you had managed to conceal The naked hook thereby. But what would income-tax replace ? You did not mention that. How could you hope, in such a case, You'd even hook a flat ? The tax on income is black-mail, Laid on the payer's purse, He fears he little would avail If you imposed a worse. He thinks that there was an after-thought Which underlay your plan. You should have told it, to have caught That much defrauded man. ......Punch.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ============================================= SUMMARY OF PASSING EVENTS. MR. JOHN LEIGHTON, of the Royal Institution, complains that no one in England has a copyright in his own face, which is at the mercy of any photographer who may seize it. As the result of a recent discussion, it appears that, unless formal stipulations are entered into prior to the sitting, the copyright in negatives is vested in the photographer. MR. LEIGHTON refers to the fact that, since the formation of the Art Copyright Act, there has been an indefinite multiplication of the processes and methods of reproduction, and he gives force to his remarks by the following illustrative statement: - "At the period of the death of MADAME RACHEL, the eminent French tragedienne, A Paris photographer managed to find access to the mortuary chamber, where he posed the body conveniently, and took several negatives. After this he employed an artist to touch her up, opening the eyes - in fact, to animate the corpse. That resulted in a ghastly libel, which stared out horribly in all the print shops, causing the family to proceed against the perpetrator, who was fined and punished, though not until after many had been sold." There is no doubt MR. LEIGHTON has lighted upon a real grievance, though caricature artists would require to look out if the law could pounce upon pictorial offenders in this country as promptly as it does in France.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ======================================================== SUMMARY OF PASSING EVENTS. It is not every day that a myrtle spray from a bride's bouquet becomes the subject of litigation, but this has virtually been the case in a curious civil action which came before SHERIFF HALLARD at Edinburgh. It appears that on the occasion when the mother of MISS AGNES TOD, the pursuer, was married forty-seven years ago, a sprig of myrtle taken from her nuptial bonnet was planted, and grew, in the course of time, into a stately tree, over which a conservatory was erected for its protection. The grounds on which the tree grew were let by the pursuer to the REV. JOHN WEMYSS, who received special injunctions not to do it any harm. Finding, however, that the myrtle, which he had been specially enjoined to preserve intact, interfered with the other plants in the conservatory, the reverend gentleman ruthlessly denuded it of some of its spreading branches. The proprietrix, on hearing what had occurred, raised an action against him in the Small Debt Court, concluding for £10 damages as the value of the nuptial-spring-sprung myrtle. >From a report presented in court it appeared that £2 10s. was considered to be the botanical value of the shrub. The Sheriff, holding that some solatium was due to the pursuer for the injury she had sustained in her feelings, allowed her £5 5s., with £2 2s. of costs, besides the ordinary court expenses. The nuptial myrtle, which has thus been the innocent cause of mulcting an indiscreet clergyman of gold and silver, is said to possess yet sufficient vitality to be able, in the lapse of years, to regain its former unshorn dimensions.

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John Thrimby village is to the east of the motorway together with Thrimby Grange and Thrimby Hall. But Thrimby is also a parish which will extend also to the west of the motorway as well as including Little Strickland and some maps show that. The parish is fairly recent though I am not sure of the date, but in the 16th/17th centuries it would have been Morland Parish. The church is St Marys Chapel in Little Strickland which was built in 1814 after the church in Thrimby was demolished because the land was needed for agriculture. It is a small place, back in the 16th and 17th centuries there were only about 10 families in the village and the population would be under 200 for the whole parish. Thrimby Grange is a house built in the late 1500's on the site of a Benedictine Monastery. Thrimby Hall is not very large and I think was built later in the 1600's. I believe it was established by a family of the name Thrimby though by the 1800's it had passed into the possession of the Earl of Lonsdale. The Crackenthorpe family also had interests in the area. There are Wells in the Morland registers up to about 1605. It is possible it was originally a Norse settlement Tjornabaer (Place by the tarn) which mutated through Tiernebi , Tyrneby and Thirneby to Thrimby John -----Original Message----- From: John Wells [mailto:wellsga@bellsouth.net] Sent: 15 November 2009 21:27 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland Ruth, Thank you so much for your response to my question about Thrimby. I am most interested in finding out as much about the little village as possible. My Wells ancestors lived there in the 16th and 17th centuries befopre settling in the U.S. I have looked at several maps and it appears that very little is there. I noted a Thrimby Grange and a Thrimby Hall in the vicinity. However, I am a bit confused. One map showed Thrimby to be west of the motorway while another showed it to be east of the motorway adjacent to Little Strickland. Any help and information you can proive will be much appreciated. I am planning a trip to Westmorland in the near future to visit Shap, Keld, Morland and Thrimby where my ancestors lived. Again, thank you so much for your reply. Regards, John B. Wells III Newnan, Georgia --- On Sun, 11/15/09, erlybird12@talktalk.net <erlybird12@talktalk.net> wrote: From: erlybird12@talktalk.net <erlybird12@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 11:28 AM Hi John, I can't tell you about the history of Thrimby but I can describe it as it is now. If you want to get in touch I would be happy to tell you what I know. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: John Wells <wellsga@bellsouth.net> To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30 Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland I would like to correspond with anyone who has knowledge of thevillage of Thrimby near Little Strickland, Westmorland. My family came from there and I need info regarding village history. Regards, John B. Wells III --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Roger Mathews <rogbet.mathews@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Roger Mathews <rogbet.mathews@hotmail.com> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Henry Wharton To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 5:32 PM Is this Henry Wharton, son of Thomas Wharton and his wife Frances (nee Holme) Wharton? If so, I would love to know more as I am a descendent of Henry. Betty Mathews (nee Wharton) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much for the information. I am slowly beginning to piece my family's story together and your information helps considerably. My Wells ancestors lived at Shap in the early 16th century, but acquired land in Thrimby about 1560. All the marriages and births were recorded in Morland Parish, but my ancestor's will proved in 1605 described him as "Richard Wells of Thrimby."  One member of the family also lived at Whalemoor and a sister married a gentleman "of Bampton." 1st cousins owned Riggs Hall just outside of Shap while another 1st cousin lived at Keld. Ms. Vivienne Gate is helping me obtain copies of the wills and inventories to see if I can gather any clues as to their fate. The family disappeared from Morland records in 1625.. My ancestor Richard Wells was born in Morland PArish(probably Thrimby) in 1618 and came to America in 1635. I am trying to discover his whereabouts between 1625 and 1635, but have had no success. Again, thank you for your information. John B. Wells III Newnan, Georgia  --- On Sun, 11/15/09, John Steel Genealogy <fh@johnsteel.co.uk> wrote: From: John Steel Genealogy <fh@johnsteel.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 4:49 PM John Thrimby village is to the east of the motorway together with Thrimby Grange and Thrimby Hall. But Thrimby is also a parish which will extend also to the west of the motorway as well as including Little Strickland and some maps show that. The parish is fairly recent though I am not sure of the date, but in the 16th/17th centuries it would have been Morland Parish. The church is St Marys Chapel in Little Strickland which was built in 1814 after the church in Thrimby was demolished because the land was needed for agriculture. It is a small place, back in the 16th and 17th centuries there were only about 10 families in the village and the population would be under 200 for the whole parish. Thrimby Grange is a house built in the late 1500's on the site of a Benedictine Monastery. Thrimby Hall is not very large and I think was built later in the 1600's. I believe it was established by a family of the name Thrimby though by the 1800's it had passed into the possession of the Earl of Lonsdale. The Crackenthorpe family also had interests in the area. There are Wells in the Morland registers up to about 1605. It is possible it was originally a Norse settlement Tjornabaer (Place by the tarn) which mutated through Tiernebi , Tyrneby and Thirneby to Thrimby John -----Original Message----- From: John Wells [mailto:wellsga@bellsouth.net] Sent: 15 November 2009 21:27 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland Ruth, Thank you so much for your response to my question about Thrimby. I am most interested in finding out as much about the little village as possible. My Wells ancestors lived there in the 16th and 17th centuries befopre settling in the U.S. I have looked at several maps and it appears that very little is there. I noted a Thrimby Grange and a Thrimby Hall in the vicinity. However, I am a bit confused. One map showed Thrimby to be west of the motorway while another showed it to be east of the motorway adjacent to Little Strickland. Any help and information you can proive will be much appreciated. I am planning a trip to Westmorland in the near future to visit Shap, Keld, Morland and Thrimby where my ancestors lived. Again, thank you so much for your reply. Regards, John B. Wells III Newnan, Georgia --- On Sun, 11/15/09, erlybird12@talktalk.net <erlybird12@talktalk.net> wrote: From: erlybird12@talktalk.net <erlybird12@talktalk.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 11:28 AM Hi John, I can't tell you about the history of Thrimby but I can describe it as it is now.   If you want to get in touch I would be happy to tell you what I know. Ruth -----Original Message----- From: John Wells <wellsga@bellsouth.net> To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com; eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:30 Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Thrimby, Westmorland I would like to correspond with anyone who has knowledge of thevillage of Thrimby near Little Strickland, Westmorland. My family came from there and I need info regarding village history. Regards, John B. Wells III --- On Thu, 11/5/09, Roger Mathews <rogbet.mathews@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Roger Mathews <rogbet.mathews@hotmail.com> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Henry Wharton To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 5:32 PM Is this Henry Wharton, son of Thomas Wharton and his wife Frances (nee Holme) Wharton? If so, I would love to know more as I am a descendent of Henry. 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Dear Betty If you are interested in Lord Wharton and his family you should join the Upper Dales Family History email group. http://fp.underw.f9.co.uk/udfhgroup/ I own a Lord Wharton bible - not my family - but the history of them is wonderful. There are a number of people interested in the Whartons and we have a minister The Rev Gillian Bobbett in Swaledale who has studied them in detail. http://gmb.orpheusweb.co.uk/lowrow/hist.html will show you more of her work and http://gmb.orpheusweb.co.uk/lowrow/tglw.html has a page on The Good Lord Wharton. With best wishes Glenys Guild of One Name Studies No 3797 www.cumpston.org.uk Searching for CUMPSTON, CUMPSON, CUMSON, COMPSTON, COMPSON everywhere Chairman, Upper Dales Family History Group ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Mathews" <rogbet.mathews@hotmail.com> To: <ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:32 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Henry Wharton > Is this Henry Wharton, son of Thomas Wharton and his wife Frances (nee > Holme) Wharton? If so, I would love to know more as I am a descendent of > Henry. > > Betty Mathews (nee Wharton) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message