AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. __________________________________________________ CUMBERLAND ASSIZES. The Commission of Assize and general gaol delivery for the county of Cumberland was opened in the Crown Court, Carlisle, on Tuesday afternoon, by MR. JUSTICE DENMAN and MR. BARON AMPHLETT. Their lordships arrived in Carlisle by the train due in the Citadel Station from the south at ten minutes before two o'clock, and were received by the High Sheriff (JOHN LINDOW, Esq., of Ehen Hall), the Under-Sheriff (MR. W. W. LUMB), and the Sheriff's Chaplain (the REV. G. B. ARMES, of Cleator). The Sheriff's "turn-out" is one of the most complete and handsome that has been seen in Carlisle for some time, and the four spirited bays were handled in excellent style by the High Sheriff's coachman. Everything in connection with the equipage is new, and it is the intention of the High Sheriff to adapt both carriage and horses to his own use at Ehon Hall. The formal business of opening the Commission was gone through in the presence of more people than usual; and their lordships immediately after leaving Court proceeded to the Cathedral, where divine service was celebrated and a sermon preached by the REV. G. B. ARMES, from the words - "Shall not the Judge of the earth do right." The same evening their Lordships, the High Sheriff, and the Sheriff's Chaplain were entertained by the Dean of Carlisle at the Deanery.

Hi Barb, thank you . mike On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Barb Baker <bbaker48@sympatico.ca> wrote: > There is another mention of "Little Brough" on ScotlandsPlaces, at > > > http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=118534 > > >>>>>>>> Original Message ----- > From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com<<<<<<<<< > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ___________________________________________________ NISI PRIUS COURT. (Before MR. JUSTICE DENMAN and a Common Jury.) EXECUTORS OF WM. MARK, DECEASED, v. BRAMHALL. This was an action brought by the executors of the late WILLIAM MARK, of Kendal, common brewer, deceased, against EMANUEL BRAMHALL, of Garsdale, Yorkshire, to recover the sum of £36 for ale sold and delivered. MR. BRADLEY appeared for the plaintiffs. The defendant was not represented. The judge did not take the case on the declaration in the action, but on the admission of the defendant by letter of the sum of £14 8s., and he directed the jury to find for that sum. The Judge, on the application of counsel, certified for costs. This concluded the business of the assize, and the Court rose at half-past twelve o'clock. The Grand Jury partook of luncheon at the Tufton Arms Hotel, and in the evening the High Sheriff entertained the Judges and a select party at Appleby Castle. _____________________________________________________

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. __________________________________________________ CHARGE OF CHILD MURDER. ANN ELLIS, domestic servant, aged 22 years, neither reads nor writes, was charged with feloniously, wilfully, and of malice aforethought, killing and murdering her female infant child, at the township of Ambleside on the 17th of January last. The HON. A. ELIOTT appeared for the prosecution. Prisoner was undefended, and his Lordship requested MR. BRADLEY to watch the case on her behalf. On being arraigned prisoner said she did not kill the child. The case excited the deepest sympathy in the court. The poor girl seemed to be suffering under considerable mental depression, and his Lordship ordered her to be accommodated with a chair. MR. ELIOTT having detailed the circumstances at length to the jury, MR. BRADLEY submitted to the Judge that there was not sufficient evidence to support the grave charge of murder. There was no evidence of malice prepense or aforethought. THE JUDGE: I can't say there is no evidence, but perhaps you might advise your client to plead guilty to the concealment of birth. - By the sanction of the Judge, the charge of murder was withdrawn by counsel, and the jury, by the direction of his Lordship, returned a verdict on the minor offence. His Lordship, in passing sentence, said: Ann Ellis, you have pleaded guilty to a charge of having had a child, and then endeavouring by secretly disposing of the body to conceal that fact. You have been indicted of a more serious charge of actually taking away the life of that child. Looking at all the evidence that would have been given against you, the court sincerely hopes that that charge was not founded on fact. The court also hopes that the child you produced was dead, and that you did not attempt to take away its life; but that you secreted the body in a way to avoid the shame of having giving birth to a child. The legislature on account of the number of cases of this kind has made this offence punishable with two years' imprisonment, whether the child was dead or alive, to protect the lives of children; therefore, the law had made it a very serious offence. The sentence of the court is that you be imprisoned and kept to hard labour for four calendar months.

Hi list, I have a reference to an Alice GREEN dau of Samuel GREEN whose last school was at Little Brough. She was born in 1875. Does anyone recognise the combination? Is Little Brough in this area or should I be looking elswhere. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

There is another mention of "Little Brough" on ScotlandsPlaces, at http://www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/search_item/index.php?service=RCAHMS&id=118534 >>>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com<<<<<<<<<

There is an excellent page on GENUKI covering Brough; mention is given regarding the ancient names "Over Brough and Under Brough, Great Brough and Little Brough" http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WES/Brough/index.htm Barb, Ontario, Canada. >>>>>>>>>Original Message ----- From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com<<<<<<<<<<<<

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. __________________________________________________ WESTMORLAND SPRING ASSIZES. STEALING A HAM. ALFRED BILES, railway labourer (28), imperfectly instructed, was charged with stealing a ham, of the value of £1 13s. 6d., the property of GEORGE LUMSDEN, at the parish of St. Michael's, Appleby, on the 31st of January. The HON. MR. ELIOTT prosecuted. Prisoner on being arraigned said he could not say whether he was guilty or not, he was very drunk. After detailing the circumstances to the jury, the learned counsel called GEORGE LUMSDEN, the prosecutor, who stated that he was the occupant of the Queen's Head Inn, Howgate Foot, Appleby. On the evening of the 31st January, prisoner went into the house with another man, named RALPH WALKER. There were two hams hanging in the front kitchen. In consequence of what his wife said, he went out of the house, and when he got to the door WALKER and STEWARDSON were standing. He followed prisoner, and came up with him about fifty yards up the road in the act of putting the ham in the fence. Witness called out, "I've gitten beath him and the ham," and WALKER and STEWARDSON came up and took prisoner away to the Police Station. THE JUDGE: - Are you sure it is your ham ? WITNESS: I am. THE JUDGE: How do you know it is. WITNESS: By the string hanging to it, which is cut, and the other part hanging to the ***** in the ceiling. ROBERT STEWARDSON, engine driver, said he was in LUMSDEN's house, and saw prisoner go out with something under his slop. He followed him up the hill towards Bongate along with the prosecutor, and a man of the name of WALKER, and after overtaking prisoner, handed him over to MR. PARKS, at the Police Station. MR. SUPERINTENDENT PARKS said when he received the prisoner into custody, he said, "who saw me steal it?" WALKER replied, "I did." In reply to the Judge, witness said WALKER worked on the railway but had not been seen for a week; and he must have absconded. Prisoner when brought to the Police Office was under the influence of drink, but could walk well and fight well. Prisoner in his defence said he knew nothing about the theft. If he had been sober, he would not have laid in the police cell all night with nothing on. The Jury returned a verdict of guilty. Sentence: Two months' imprisonment with hard labour.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. _________________________________________________ His Lordship (BARON AMPHLETT) took his seat in the Crown Court at half-past ten o'clock, and MR. JUSTICE DENMAN presided in the Nisi Prius Court, where there was only one case for hearing, which did not occupy the court more than half an hour. After the usual preliminaries the following gentlemen were sworn on the Grand Jury: ADMIRAL RUSSELL ELLIOT, Appleby Castle, (foreman); HENRY C. HOWARD, Esq., Greystoke Castle; WM. HOPES, Esq., Brampton Crofts; JOSEPH SALKELD, Esq., Templesowerby; WILLIAM HENRY WAKEFIELD, Esq., Sedgwick House; LIEUT.-COL. HUGH RIGG, Crossrigg Hall; JOHN WHITWELL, Esq., M.P., Kendal; JAMES ATKINSON, Esq., Winderwath; JAMES CROPPER, Esq., Ellergreen; JOHN HOWIT WILSON, Esq., Kendal; JOHN JAMESON, Esq., Moorhouses THOMAS MASON, Esq., Kirkby Stephen; WM. WAKEFIELD, Esq., Birkland; ALFRED DUDLEY KEIGHLEY, Esq., Old Hall, Milnthorpe; THOS. CHAMLEY, Esq., Warcop House; FRANCIS PARKER, Esq., Acorn Bank; FRANCIS MARKHAM, Esq., Morland; JAMES THOMPSON, Esq., Kendal; and FREDERICK COWPER, Esq., Yanwath Hall. His Lordship, in charging the Grand Jury, said it was his lot to say a few words with regard to his duties; and in the first place he wished to congratulate them on the very small amount of business they would have to dispose of. There were but two cases in the calendar - one was simple larceny and the other was the grave charge of child murder. His Lordship reviewed the depositions at considerable length, and left it to the discretion of the jury, whom he had no doubt had had great experience in such cases.

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. ____________________________________________________ The court has never been so crowded on any similar occasion since the late MR. JUSTICE SHEE came his first circuit. There was no pretension to a grand display, but everything was neat,, and in keeping with the dignity and honour due to her Majesty's representatives. The High Sheriff wore the uniform of Deputy Lieutenant for the county of Kent - full dress - scarlet, silver lace trimmings, and epaulets, with sword, &c. He was accompanied by MR. E. HEELIS, solicitor, Appleby, Under Sheriff, and his Chaplain. The carriage and harness were of an elaborate description, and were furnished by MESSRS. NANSON and SON, Penrith. The outfit was from the establishment of MR. JOSEPH KIRKBRIDE, of the same place, and, it is needless to add, was got up in first class style. On Sunday, the Judges, accompanied by the High Sheriff and his escort, attended divine service at St. Lawrence Church. There was a gay and fashionable congregation. The REV. W. MAUDSLEY read the prayers, and the assize sermon was preached by the Chaplain, the REV. JOHN HEELIS, Rector of Dufton, from the 12th chapter of Luke and 58th verse ......... "When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou are in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison."

AND EAST CUMBERLAND AND WESTMORLAND NEWS. NO. 440 - Eighth Week in Quarter Registered for Transmission ABroad. SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 1874. PRICE 1D. __________________________________________________ WESTMORLAND SPRING ASSIZES. It has been the custom from time immemorial, at least far remote, for the High Sheriff of the county, or his deputy, to receive and escort the Judges of Assize in the loyal and ancient borough with a pageantry worthy of the representatives of majesty and the power and dignity of the laws. From the days of KING JOHN to the death of the last EARL OF THANET, the descendants through the female line by the old and illustrious houses of the VETERIPONTS and CLIFFORDS, the shrivalty was hereditary in the family, as may be seen by reference to the tablet in Appleby Church, upon which is emblazoned the armorial bearings of the VETERIPONTS, recording that KING JOHN "gave first of all certain lands in Westmorland, together with the sheriffwick of the county.: This office was even exercised by a lady in her legal right, the famous ANN, COUNTESS OF PEMBROKE, DORSET, and MONTGOMERY, who sat on the bench in the exercise of her prerogative on the right of the judge on opening the court and during the trials. This noble lady possessed personal qualifications that have rendered her name famous, and added dignity and honour to one of the most illustrious families in the kingdom. She was the only surviving daughter and sole heiress of GEORGE CLIFFORD, 3RD EARL OF CUMBERLAND, "by his blessed wife, MARGARET RUSSELL, daughter of GEORGE RUSSELL, EARL OF BEDOFRD." There is a letter extant characteristic of the powerful will of this lady to SIR JOHN WILLIAMSON, Secretary of State to CHARLES THE SECOND, who asked her to return to parliament a certain person he named for the borough of Appleby. ............ "Sir, I have been neglected by a court, I have been bullied by a usurper, but I will not be dictated to by a subject. Your man shan't stand." To this good lady, Appleby owes that most charitable foundation, St. Ann's Hospital, where 12 aged widows and a mother are, in the decline of life, handsomely provided for. The present High Sheriff, SIR HENRY TUFTON, Bart., is a descendant of this noble lady, in whose family, as before stated, the shrievalty was vested until the death of the last EARL OF THANET in 1849, when GEORGE EDWARD WILSON, of Eversham, was appointed by the Crown, for that and the succeeding year 1850, since which the Sheriffs have been annually appointed, and are chosen from the resident gentry and landed proprietors in the county. The High Sheriff arrived at Appleby on Friday evening, accompanied by LADY TUFTON, and was met at the station by ADMIRAL ELLIOT, and on his approach to his ancestral residence, Appleby Castle, was welcomed by a hearty peal of bells from the tower of St. Lawrence Church. The judges, MR. JUSTICE DENMAN, and MR. BARON AMPHLETT, arrived at Appleby by a special train on Saturday evening, and were met at the station by the High Sheriff and his retinue, with the usual heralds, &c., and were escorted to the Shire Hall, where the commission was opened in due form.

Hello group I am new to the group and am trying to sort out the children of John and Jane Stephenson (nee Huddart) who in the 1841 census were farming in Sleagill. I am uncertain as to how many children they had. The ones I am sure about are Sarah (1810), Betty (1812), Ann (1819), Isaac (1815) and Joseph (1829) all born in Bolton, Westmorland. I have also found several other children born to a John Stephenson and wife Jane, (also in Bolton) which I assume is the same couple but cannot be certain, ie Jane (1815), John (1817), Mary (1822) and William (1823). I wonder if anyone else is researching this same family and if they have managed to determine if all the children belong to John Stephenson and Jane Huddart?? Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks. Val

Hi Stephen, I have been researching for over 20 years & being doing so at LDS centres for most of that time. I have never been approached about religion at all. At most centres you sign in with your name & address & tick a column to say whether you are a member of the church or not. The reason for identifying yourself I think is mainly in case you accidently leave something behind at the centre such as important papers etc & they can contact you to let you know & also so they know how many people are in & out of the centre which helps them know what demands there are for readers, how far people have travelled etc. I think another reason is also possibly so that they know who "not" to mention anything about religion to rather than the other way around. When you get to know the volunteers there you usually find that quite a large proportion of these people are not member of the Church at all but volunteers just as we have in other genealogical societies, libraries etc. Besides being able to look through books & microfiche & also many genealogy CDs that they have for the use of visitors you can of course order in films. The films cover a large variety of topics, but the majority that people order would be church records & bishop's transcripts of the church that your ancestors attended. Some of this information might be on the IGI but a lot is not. Burial records for instance are generally not on the IGI but most of these films of church records cover the actual register of births, marriages & burials in a parish. As these films are of the actual registers you can see the original record where you will be able to see names of parents & in the case of Baptisms who the godparents were or for marriages who the witnesses were as well as parents names, occupations etc. With the IGI of course if there is an entry from the Church records listed then you know that there is a film that you can order to see the original church record. Another benefit is that you can also photocopy the record for a minimal photocopying charge. If your ancestors frequented the same church, sometimes for many generations you can for less than the cost of a certificate from the registrar get copies of hundreds of family records from the one film. If you go to the LDS site: http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp Under the Library tage at the top choose Library Catalog then click on one of the tabs eg "place search" & type in the place you are interested in eg Kendal & a list of results will come up. For instance for Kendal I just chose Kendal, Westmorland, England & then from the list of Kendal records I chose Kendal Church Records. Here are just a few of the many results. Baptismal register, 1823-1858 / United Presbyterian Church of Kendal (Westmoreland) Baptisms and burials, 1754-1801 / Pear Tree Chapel (Kendal : Inghamite) Births and baptisms, 1687-1838 / Presbyterian Church (Kendal, Westmoreland) Births and baptisms, 1762-1840 / Catholic Church. Holy Trinity Chapel (Kendal, Westmoreland) Births, baptisms and burials, 1802-1837 / Strickland Gate Chapel (Kendal : Wesleyan) Births, marriages, and burials, 1762-1837 / Society of Friends. Kendal Monthly Meeting (England) Bishop's transcripts for Burneside, 1813-1895 / Church of England. Chapelry of Burneside (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Crook, 1813-1870 / Church of England. Chapelry of Crook (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Grayrigg, 1813-1871 / Church of England. Chapelry of Grayrigg (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Helsington, 1813-1886 / Church of England. Chapelry of Helsington (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Hugil, 1813-1862 / Church of England. Chapelry of Hugil (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Kendal, 1721-1845 / Church of England. Parish Church of Kendal (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Kentmere, 1813-1877 / Church of England. Chapelry of Kentmere (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Long Sleddale, 1813-1861 / Church of England. Chapelry of Long Sleddale (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Natland, 1813-1870 / Church of England. Chapelry of Natland (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for New Hutton, 1813-1881 / Church of England. Chapelry of New Hutton (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Old Hutton, 1813-1846 / Church of England. Chapelry of Old Hutton (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Selside, 1813-1876 / Church of England. Chapelry of Selside (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for St. George's Church, Kendal, 1856-1873 / Church of England. St. George's Church (Kendal, Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for St. Thomas' Church, Kendal, 1856-1875 / Church of England. St. Thomas' Church (Kendal, Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Stavely, 1815-1857 / Church of England. Chapelry of Stavely (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Underbarrow, 1813-1865 / Church of England. Chapelry of Underbarrow (Westmoreland) Bishop's transcripts for Winster, 1813-1871 / Church of England. Chapelry of Winster (Westmoreland) Church records, 1823-1934 / Primitive Methodist Church (Kendal, Westmoreland) Church records, 1848-1914 / Wesleyan Methodist Chapels. Kendal Circuit (Westmoreland) Hope this helps put your mind at rest. If you don't use the fantastic resourses they offer you are missing out on a lot. Best wishes, Sharon

Stephen, I don't know if this helps. Over the past years I have requested several microfishe from the US Family History Center near my home in the US. I have found the staff very helpful. They explained the process to me but never tried to enlist me into the church. In fact, my center was strictly for research and did not have religious material 'in your face" although some may have been around. I initally signed in with my name and address, but never received a solicitation from the church. I would guess the same would be true of the UK centers. Another benefit is that when you go into the center, you can review fishe that others have requested before the fishe are sent back. Art in New Hampshire Stephen Savage wrote: >Hi > >Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? > >IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that have supported IGI contents? IGE records sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. > >Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? > >Stephen >Stephen Savage If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I have used the service here at my local family history center in Sacramento and was verry happy with the service. Everyone was friendly and helpfull and even found other information for me. I can not say if they have acess to more then is on line. I was never contacted by the church itself. Kathy ________________________________ From: Stephen Savage <stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com> To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, November 23, 2009 10:55:03 PM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints Hi Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that  have supported IGI contents? IGE records  sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? Stephen Stephen Savage     If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have never had a problem with the LDS Centers. I was asked one time where I went to church, but after I told them I was active in the Methodist Church they never mentioned it again. I had wonderful service and no trouble ordering films.  John B. Wells III Newnan, Georgia --- On Tue, 11/24/09, fenenga@connpoint.net <fenenga@connpoint.net> wrote: From: fenenga@connpoint.net <fenenga@connpoint.net> Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] family history centers and libraries To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 12:42 PM     there are many, many records the church has filmed that are not in the IGI. they will not proselytize you while you are in or near the library, that is against thier edicts. I've never been to a UK family history center, but I would assume they are run much like any family history center here in the U.S. so you will find volunteers with varying amounts of knowledge and skill in using the library's tools and researching genealogy, bound books of use to researchers, 'fiche and film on site that people have ordered, forms to fill out to order 'fiche and film, and machinery to view them and make copies of the pages. there will likely also be computers with computer disks with available data, and possibly even access to Ancestry.com/uk and Gail's newspapers.     good luck in your searches  BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Tue 11/24/09 12:00 AM , eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com sent: Today's Topics: 1. Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints (Stephen Savage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:55:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Savage Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [2] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that have supported IGI contents? IGE records sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? Stephen Stephen Savage ? If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail. ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com [4]. To post a message to the ENG-WESTMORLAND mailing list, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com [5]. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com [6] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 *********************************************** Links: ------ [1] mailto:stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com [2] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:936637.10944.qm@web86501.mail.ird.yahoo.com [4] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com [5] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com [6] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there are many, many records the church has filmed that are not in the IGI. they will not proselytize you while you are in or near the library, that is against thier edicts. I've never been to a UK family history center, but I would assume they are run much like any family history center here in the U.S. so you will find volunteers with varying amounts of knowledge and skill in using the library's tools and researching genealogy, bound books of use to researchers, 'fiche and film on site that people have ordered, forms to fill out to order 'fiche and film, and machinery to view them and make copies of the pages. there will likely also be computers with computer disks with available data, and possibly even access to Ancestry.com/uk and Gail's newspapers. good luck in your searches BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; } On Tue 11/24/09 12:00 AM , eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com sent: Today's Topics: 1. Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints (Stephen Savage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:55:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Stephen Savage Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints To: ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [2] Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that have supported IGI contents? IGE records sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? Stephen Stephen Savage ? If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail. ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com [4]. To post a message to the ENG-WESTMORLAND mailing list, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com [5]. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com [6] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 *********************************************** Links: ------ [1] mailto:stephen.savage54@btopenworld.com [2] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-L@rootsweb.com [3] mailto:936637.10944.qm@web86501.mail.ird.yahoo.com [4] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com [5] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com [6] mailto:ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com

I haven't done it myself but a friend of mine has - and was very impressed with their service. I don't know that she found out any more than she had online, but said they were helpful with showing her how to use the machine etc. And no, she hasn't been contacted by them at all since. Hope this helps a little. Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Savage" < To: <> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 6:55 AM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Request for MIcrofiche Church of Latter day saints Hi Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that have supported IGI contents? IGE records sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? Stephen Stephen Savage If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 3112 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Stephen, In the past - quite some years ago, 2001 or thereabouts - I used their service and was 'allowed' access to the film I requested for a period of about 6 weeks, I recall. I asked for an extension of time which was granted presumably as no one else had requested sight of it. The staff were most helpful - I was however given a one to one indoctrination on the church for 15 mins or so on my first visit but no approaches since. Regards, Roger Roger Hadwin

Hi Does anny one have experience of requesting microfiche for viewing at local UK Family History centres? IF so- are the microfiche only the ones that have supported IGI contents? IGE records sometimes only go back a limited period for many parishes. Once you contact LDS -are you then contacted by the church generally? Stephen Stephen Savage   If you are not the intended recipient for this e mail please reply to sender accordingly and delete this e mail.