> ASBY TEMPERANCE SOCIETY. > > The annual meeting of the above Society was held in the Free Methodist > Chapel, on Wednesday last, when about 160 persons sat down to tea. At the > evening meeting, stirring addresses were delivered by the REVS. JOHN > MYERS, of Cleckheaton, and W. MATTHEWS, of Appleby. > > The children of the Crow Hill Huts Band of Hope, under the leadership of > MISS HUTCHINSON, sang several temperance pieces, and choice selections of > songs and duets were given at intervals by MISS WRIGHT, MR. R. W. CROSBY, > and MR. WM. DENT. > > MR. JOHN CROSBY, of Breaks Hall occupied the chair. The room was crowded, > numbers not being able to gain admission. The friends declare that in > every respect it was the best anniversary they have ever held. >

AMERICAN EMIGRATION. Some time ago we had the following extract from a New York paper: - "The Russian emigrants have been sadly disappointed, and, in some instances, most shamefully treated in Dakota. They purchased land in the neighbourhood of Yankton, and they found but shallow mould with gravel beneath, which broke their ploughs. Water was scarce and bad, and many died of diseases occasioned by its use. A farm was sold to a Russian who speaks no English, a portion of the money was paid, and when the unfortunate man sometime after showed his title to the property, his papers turned out to be only his first citizenship papers. Having the seal, the Russian was deluded into the belief that he had a genuine deed in his possession. But few of the emigrants will remain in Dakota, which is not the Eden they expected to find it, but rather the Eden of MARTIN CHUZZLEWIT's experience." Referring to the above extract, we have received the following letter from the REV. G. M. BINKS, Congregational minister, at present residing at Castle Bolton, Bedale: ................. "Dear Sir, - Sometime ago, being at the house of MR. W. HEWGILL, of Carperby, in this county, I saw in your paper an extract from an American paper, in reference to a number of Russian emigrants who had gone to Dakota Territory, U.S. America, and had been imposed upon, the country being little better than a wilderness, the water unfit for use, &c. In the interests of truth and justice, I forwarded your "Herald" to the Government officers of Dakota. They have now forwarded me a copy of a paper published at Yankton, which I send you, containing a denial of the slander. May I ask you to give the same a place in your paper. I am well known to both MR. WILLIAM and MR. JOHN HEWGILL of Carperby, Wensleydale, being my native place. For some years I have been engaged as a Congregational minister of the gospel in Dakota Territory. I therefore know the country well, and a finer country I never saw - a fine climate and a rich soil, surpassed by no country as a home for a working man. I have no pecuniary interest in sending this letter, but write simply in the interest of truth...............Respectfully yours, G. M. BINKS." The following is the statement referred to by MR. BINKS, and is signed by a number of leading German-Russians and other well-known citizens: .......... "The undersigned German-Russians who have recently settled in Dakota have read the above extract, and in reply state that it has not the slightest foundation, being false in every particular. The citizens of Dakota have been uniformly kind to us, courteous and neighbourly, and have spared no pains to make our sojourn pleasant and agreeable. The soil in this portion of Dakota is deep, rich, and very productive, and the climate salubrious and very healthy. We find good wholesome water, generally in from ten to thirty feet, and in but two or three instances have we been obliged to go deeper. To our knowledge, there is not one word of truth in the statement that any attempt has been to swindle or deceive our people in the purchase of lands. We intend to remain in this territory because we like the soil, climate and people, and where we can obtain free farms from the general government."

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. PENRITH BOARD OF HEALTH. The fortnightly meeting of the Penrith Board of Health was held on Saturday afternoon last, when there were present MESSRS. GRAHAM (chairman), G. GOODBURN, W. LYNN, J. JAMES, JNO. SIMPSON, C. FAIRER (clerk) and J. TODD (surveyor. The minutes of the last ordinary meeting were read and confirmed. The business at the present meeting was unimportant. FINANCE. - From the minutes of the Finance Committee it appeared that the Surveyor's accounts had been examined and found correct, and cheques were now signed for several tradesmens' accounts, including one of £29 to MR. WAGSTAFF for the use of his engine 35 days at the waterworks, while the wheel was disabled. PLAN. - The plan of several closets on MR. JAMES's property, in Albert Street, was examined and passed. FLAGGING. - The Highway Committee having recommended that Angel Lane be flagged and chanelled, a conversation now took place about the outshot on MR. THOMPSON's premises, with a view to its probable purchase, but the majority of the members were of the opinion that such a course would not at present be desirable. The minutes of the committee were adopted, and the work is to be proceeded with immediately. FOOT CROSSINGS. - A memorial having been received asking the Board to lay down crossings for foot passengers from the foot of Scot Lane to Petteril Terrace, and from DR. MACGREGOR's house to the opposite footpath, the advisibility of doing so was discussed,, but the Board were unanimously of the opinion that it was not desirable to comply with the request. THE WATER WORKS' BILL. - The Chairman said that at the last meeting MR. .HIND's bill had been left over for reference, and some of the members had had an interview with the referee, but they were not yet in a position to report to the meeting. NUISANCES. - The Surveyor reported that out of 31 nuisances complained of, 12 only had been remedied, and some others were in course of removal. That in MR. HEWER's premises, in Sandgate foot, was a very bad case. He had frequently promised to remove it, but until now had done nothing. In addition to the lodging-house there were other tenements, all densley populated, and the nuisance was increased. THE CHAIRMAN said it would be best for the Board to do the work, and charge MR. HEWER. THE SURVEYOR: How about the cost ? MR. GOODBURN; No one is better able to pay it. MR. LYNN: We must make an example, and it will be a caution to others. MR. JAMES: If the nuisance is not removed, the house may be reported as unfit for a lodging-house, and the license taken away. THE CHAIRMAN was of the same opinion. The SURVEYOR was directed to write to MR. HEWER to that effect, and a similar proceeding was to be put in force against an owner of property in the Fleece Inn Yard. THREATENED ADVANCE IN THE PRICE OF GAS. - The CHAIRMAN said he had been informed that the Gas Company was about to raise the price of gas supplied to the town's lamps. The present price was 3s. 5d. per 1000 feet. He had been asked if the Board would purchase the works, and his answer was that they would at a price. MR. JAMES: We are under no obligation to buy them. THE CHAIRMAN: We are under an obligation to light the town, and if we were to buy the works the town would get the benefit, and whatever profit there might be. THE CLERK was desired to write to several towns similarly situated, to enquire what they were paying. MR. JAMES said it was quite right to get information, but the Gas Company had the power in their own hands. THE CHAIRMAN: A member of the Finance Committee suggested that the lamps should be supplied with oil burners. He had told the gentleman who had communicated with him that they would not be able to come to any different arrangement until the 1st of March, when they would have been supplied by metre a full year, and would know what the consumption was. MR. JAMES: Suppose we refuse to pay the advance and they stop the gas? MR. SIMPSON said it was the right time of year to have a strike in that direction. THE CLERK: Then we must put a stop to their laying pipes down through our streets. It will cut both ways. MR. SIMPSON: Suppose we charge them for laying pipes ? THE CHAIRMAN remarked that the price of coal affected the cost of production, but at present he could not see how they could arrive at the price, as probably with a very small outlay they would be able to manufacture double the quantity of gas without extra expenses. The subject then dropped, and the Board adjourned. _______________________ SALE OF THOROUGHBRED HORSES. - On Friday a number of racers were sold in Glasgow. The horse ' Irregularity ' which won the Lowther Cup at Carlisle in 1871, but is now broken down, was bought in for 22 guineas. 'Knight of Snowden' was brought in at 105 guineas.

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. RE-SALE OF THE OLD WESLEYAN CHAPEL This building, with detached vestries and cottage, which was purchased a week ago by MR. RD. HARRISON, of Newbiggen, for £1,200, was re-sold by him last night to the Primitive Methodist Society, in Penrith, for the sum of £1,300. The place will, we understand, be formally opened by its new proprietors on Good Friday, when MISS BENNETT, of Chester, and others are expected to take part in the proceedings. The chapel and property at the foot of Arthur Street will, in consequence of the above purchase, be shortly offered for sale. ULLSWATER FOXHOUNDS. This excellent pack met at Crosbyravensworth on the 19th inst., where they had a capital run, holing their fox in an old quarry, where the "wee dogs" could not drive him out. On the following day, Friday, the cast off was in the vicinity of the above village, where they soon found, and after an equally good run, the fox was forced to take refuge in a drain, and thus escaped the fangs of his foes. On Monday, the 23rd, the meet was at Sleddale Hall, near Shap, where, after a good search, a drag was hit upon, and followed to Buckbarrow earth, where the fugitive had gone to his lair, and was there "left alone in his glory". The hounds were then cast forward by Harter Fell, Longstile Head, MR. HOLMES' pasture, Riggindale, and under the low side of Kidsty Pike to Rampscale Dale Head in Martindale, where the hounds came upon a very hot drag, and pursued to Heck Crag, near Angle Tarn, where a fine old greyhound fox broke away in view of the hounds over the top by the Pikes to Martindale House, where he turned to his right, across Freeze Beck, and down the top of Beda, with the famous pack close on his heels; at a little above the school he turned round Beda End, and came back nearly by the middle of the breast of the mountain opposite Bordale Head farm house, where the hounds were seen to pull Reynard down upon the plain by MRS. H. ROTHERY, and killed by the eager pack. It weighed 17 lbs. There was a good turn-out of hunters from Mardale, Kentmere, &c., among whom were J. C. BOWSTEAD, Esq., of Hackthorpe Hall; and that veteran sportsman, MR. JAS. AIREY, Kentmere, but, unluckily the run was only witnessed by the huntsman, the whip, and that keen and noted hunter, JOSEPH BROWNRIGG, of Hartsop, who saw all the chase. - COR.

Hello, I've just joined the list to make enquiries about my 4xgreat grandfather, Thomas Ridding. Thomas made a will in 1802 at which time he was "of Brown Street, Grosvenor Square, St George Hanover Square, Middlesex servant to the Right Honorable the Earl of Lonsdale". It doesn't give his date of death but was proved in 1819 when he was again referred to as servant to the Right Honorable Earl of Lonsdale. I have no idea where Thomas or his wife Sarah, were born. Their child Sarah was born about 1799 possibly Marylebone. Grandchildren of Thomas Ridding and Sarah have been found in 1817 and 1819, born Brown Street, Hanover Square. Would it be usual for servants of the Earl of Lonsdale to travel around the country with him? So my Thomas could have hailed from Westmoreland. If this is the case, are there any papers which would mention the marriage of servants? Thanks Linda

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. REMARKABLE DEATH OF ONE OF LORD LONSDALE'S GAMEKEEPERS. - On Thursday morning last, about eight o'clock, EDWARD THORNBARROW, gamekeeper, at Lowther Castle, was found lying in the park and died a few minutes afterwards without having made any communication. He was at the south-west corner of the park, known as the "level", and is supposed to have lain all night exposed to very severe weather. The poor old man could only murmer faintly when first spoken to by THOMAS RICHARDSON, who ran home to the neighbouring village of Whale, and returned immediately with assistance, but only in time to see the end. At some short distance towards Askham he afterwards found poor Ned's stick, where there was also strewed a quantity of shot. A faithful terrier, unscared by snow and tempest, was still guarding its prostrate master. The body was removed to Whale Moor to await an inquest by the coroner for Westmorland. HEAVY FAILURES. - MR. JOHN IRVING, one of the most prominent and influential citizens of Carlisle, who for many years has conducted very extensive operations in this district as a grocer and general merchant, has found it necessary to take proceedings under the Bankruptcy Act and convene a meeting of his creditors for Tuesday next, in order to liquidate his affairs. The statement filed in the Court shows liabilities to the amount of $60,277. In connection with this, it must be stated that MR. JOHN HINDSON, grocer, who in recent years has carried on business with MR. IRVING, under the firm of IRVING, HINDSON, and CO., is also at present taking proceedings for liquidating his affairs. His liabilities are estimated at £9,206 18s. 7d. (of which sum MR. IRVING was jointly liable for £3,276 10s.) and his assets are put down at £4,607. His affairs are being liquidated by arrangement. MR. JOHN IRVING's eldest son, who carried on business in Mincing Lane, London, has also found it necessary to take proceedings under the Bankruptcy Act. In the London Court of Bankruptcy on Tuesday, as we learn from "The Times" (before Registrar KEENE) an application was made "in re" JOHN IRVING, to register a resolution for a liquidation by arrangement. The debtor had carried on business on Dunster House, Mincing Lane, as a general merchant, and his debts were £31,875, with assests £1,530. At the first meeting, MR. JACKSON, accountant, 78, King William Street, was appointed trustee. MR. L. DE MICHELE and MR. WALLS appeared in the matter. His Honor granted the application.

LOCAL AND DISTRICT NEWS. SUDDEN DEATH IN THE CITADEL STATION. - Early on Wednesday morning, a woman named MARY MCEWAN, 68 years of age, died very suddenly in the Citadel Station, Carlisle. It appears that she lived at No. 3, Huntley Street Edinburgh, from which place she was travelling per the Caledonian Railway in company with her son and daughter. They were booked for Liverpool, and intended to embark for New York this week. MRS. MCEWAN however, became ill before Carlisle was reached, and died shortly after her arrival at the Citadel Station, where the train was due at a quarter past twelve on Wednesday morning. MR. W. PAGE gave a certificate as to the cause of death, and no inquest was ordered. DEATH IN THE PULPIT. - On Sunday last the REV. THOMAS HARDING minister of the Wesleyan Methodist Church, Michael Street, Whitehaven, died in an awfully sudden manner. The rev. gentleman, who was the father of MR. T. O. HARDING, senior wrangler at Cambridge last year, left his residence in High Street in his usual health, and the morning service had proceeded so far that he was approaching the conclusion of the sermon, when he suddenly fell partly forward in an insensible state. He was immediately removed from the pulpit, and the assistance of DRs. MURIAL and HENRY were called in. Their skill, however, was useless, as the rev. gentleman ceased to exist in a very few minutes. In the doctors' opinion his death was the result of an attack of apoplexy. MR. HARDING's sudden demise caused a most painful sensation on Sunday, being made subject of touching remarks by several fellow ministers, and much sympathy is felt for his family. PENRITH HORSE FAIR. - The second fair for horses was held in Sandgate on Tuesday last. As regards numbers, the show was a large one, but the quality as a rule was not smart. The reduction of prices last week at Wigton, which is looked upon as a ruling market, had a corresponding effect at Penrith, and in consequence as great reductions were not willingly made, sales were not numerous. Doubtless much of this depression in the horse trade arises from the forwardness of work amongst farmers, in conjunction with the general scarcity of fodder, and the probability is that the permanent reduction will not be very great. For heavy horses the prices demanded ranged from £25 to £80, according to quality and the degree of age attained, and some few animals suited for farm work were sold at intermediate prices. For ponies, hacks, and harness horses, prices ran from £20 to £60, but in these classes too, business was almost at a standstill in consequence of the wide divergence of opinion being between the buyer and the seller.

LOCAL & DISTRICT NEWS. CATTLE DISEASES. - In Cumberland there has been no fresh outbreak of pleuro-pneumonia, but the disease still exists upon three farms, where three animals have been slaughtered. Scab is upon two farms, with seven sheep affected. No disease in Westmorland of any kind. THE VACANT MINOR CANONRY OF CARLISLE CATHEDRAL. - THE REV. W. F. SIMPSON, M.A., curate of Scarborugh has been selected from among many candidates by the Dean and Chapter of Carlisle to fill the Minor Canonry in the Cathedral, rendered vacant by the presentation of the REV. T. G. LIVINGSTONE to the vicarage of Addingham. THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF EDINBURGH. - We hear that arrangements are being made for celebrating in Carlisle, next Friday, the homecoming of the DUKE OF EDINBURGH and his bride. There will be a musical performance in the Market Place in the afternoon, and a display of fireworks and illuminations in front of the Town Hall in the evening. An effort is to be made to arrange for a half holiday as widely as possible. CAMBRIDGE LOCAL EXAMINATIONS. - The results of the examination, held last December, at the 54 centres in England, have appeared, and we notice that at the Malvern centre, where 63 junior and 12 senior candidates were entered, the name of JAS. E. POTTS stands alone, in the first class of senior students. He is the son of MR. POTTS, Tirrel, and proceeded from the Lowther Grammer School to the Grammer School, Worcester. DEATH OF A VALUABLE HORSE. - We regret to state that "Prince Kildare" the famous Clydesdale horse, which MR. NEWBY-FRASER of Hay Close lately purchased for 1,000 guineas from the neighbourhood of Glasgow, died on Tuesday last after an hour's illness. It was seized by severe pains in the stomach, and in its agony threw itself down, and in falling caused rupture of the stomach. The loss to the farmers in this district we may truly say is irreparable. We understand that "the Prince" had no fewer than seventy engagements for the season at seven guineas each. CHRIST CHURCH. - We understand that an effort is being made to provide an organ for Christ Church, Penrith, its local services having hitherto been accompanied by a harmonium. One of the parishioners has generously offered £20, on condition that nine sums of similar amount be contributed. We understand that four such sums have been already promised, and that the proposal has been favourably received by other friends. The clergymen and churchwardens are most anxious to carry this project to a successful termination, and we trust that the necessary funds will soon be forthcoming.

The following is an extract from a longer article in the July 10, 1885 issue (page 5) of The Ambleside Lakes Herald newspaper entitled "A Sunrise in Helvellyn" A Sunrise From Helvellyn ... The name of the edge [Striding Edge] is certainly appropriate for one thing and that is that a stride in the wrong direction would in many places on the path prove fatal. That such has been the case the little iron cross among the crags of the edge affirms, for on approaching it we read, "In memory of Robert DIXON, Rookings, Patterdale, who was killed on this place on the 27th November, 1858 while following Patterdale foxhounds." ... In the latter [churchyard at Patterdale] a pleasant hour might have been passed, but merely walking through we only lingered to read the inscription on one of the tombstones, which was rather striking, It was, "In memory of Thomas, eldest son of Robert and Elizabeth GRISDALE, of Hartsop Hall, in this township, who was barbarously murdered by an unprovoked assassin, on the evening of Sunday March 8th, 1835 aged 27 years." David Leverton.

In 2009, I saw that a dealer on eBay was selling original documents from the Edenhall estate in Cumbria. These were mainly bills and receipts predominantly from the 18th century, with a few documents from the late 17th century and some from the early 1800s. Most of these documents contain personal names, usually the name of the tradesman who had submitted the bill or signed the receipt in addition to the name of the agent or steward who had paid the bill on behalf of the MUSGRAVE family. Some documents contained whole lists of names. In addition to the obvious relevance to family historians, the documents as a group also give a fascinating insight into the lifestyle of the MUSGRAVE family and the expenses involved in running a large household. The MUSGRAVE baronets had their main seat at Edenhall in Cumberland, but they also held a lot of land in Westmorland (Hartley Castle had been their main seat until the mid-16th century) and in County Durham in the Bishop Auckland area. These documents predominantly refer to Cumberland and Westmorland, but there are a few County Durham documents included as well. It saddened me that a family archive like this was being irretrievably dispersed, and I decided to transcribe the documents still offered for sale from the excellent photographs the seller had provided on eBay. Unfortunately many of the documents had already been sold, and for those the photos were no longer available. My transcription document therefore only contains 183 documents (although some of them consist of several original documents, so the total is almost 200). This represents a small fraction of those in the Edenhall archives. I am extremely grateful to Chris Dickinson for spending an inordinate amount of time, effort and patience in helping me to put my transcriptions onto his Rumbutter site. They are now ready to view. To preserve the formatting of my transcriptions, the transcribed documents are displayed as images, and their text can therefore not be copied. However, you can download my whole transcription document as a pdf file and then copy the text of any transcribed document in which you are interested into your word processor. Rumbutter's search engine fully works for the documents as there is also a "plain" text version below each document which has no formatting but is searchable. The site's "Tag" system has also been used to create an index of standard surnames (e.g. the surnames STEPHENSON, STEVENSON, STIVENSON etc. all appear under the Tag STEPHENSON). The MUSGRAVE Baronets and their agents, who appear in very many documents, have been tagged by full name. Unfortunately the tag system only allows a maximum of 12 tags per document, and six documents contained more than 12 names - these documents were given the tag "Not fully indexed". The Category system has been used for an index of occupations and general locations, mainly counties but also some individual places (Edenhall, Hartley, Carlisle, Penrith, Kendal). My downloadable pdf document has an index of full names and an alphabetical index of place names, giving (as far as I could determine them) each location's parish, county and grid reference. It is worth reading the introduction as it explains the rules I followed when transcribing. And the second page of the introduction contains a list of the MUSGRAVE baronets for quick reference. To view the documents, go to the Resources section http://www.rumbutter.net/gen-cumb-resources-home/ and click on "Edenhall", or go straight to the Edenhall Homepage at http://www.rumbutter.net/gen-cumb-res-edenhall-home . You need to log in. If you have not yet registered with the site, you will need to do so - it is entirely free. There are other excellent resources on the Rumbutter site, it is well worth it. Have fun! Petra P. S.: There is more of this to come in the future...

Hello Derek, There is a death for Anne Dacre Mar Qtr 1880 Romney 2c 61 Could this be her? Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek (W)" <westmorml@ntlworld.com> To: "Westmorland Mailing List" <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] What became of ANN DACRE ? > With the snow and icy keeping me indoors, I have once again turned my > attention to my FANKLAND/FRANKLIN ancestors. > > On 21 February 1842, ANN FRANKLAND married MATTHEW DACRE, a widower, at > Kendal Holy Trinity. > > The 1851 census shows them in Highgate, Kendal with three sons Robert (6), > Isaac (4) and Richard (1). > MATTHEW died in 1860 and ANN DACRE is shown on the 1861 census as a widow > living alone in Finkle Street, Kendal. > > In 1871 ANN DACRE is now living at Bank Top, Holker with her son RICHARD > aged 21. > > I have traced RICHARD, and also the elder son ROBERT, through subsequent > census but I have as yet been unable to find out what happened to ANN > DACRE after 1971. > Can anyone help ? > I would be more than willing to share information with any other DACRE > researchers. > > Derek > In snowy Nottinghamshire. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Joyce, Thanks for your reply. I don't think this is the one I am looking for as the Romsey Registration District covers an area of Hampshire/Wiltshire approx. 300 miles from where Ann was living in 1871. Derek. ----- Original Message ----- From: Norman & Joyce Armstrong To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] What became of ANN DACRE ? Hello Derek, There is a death for Anne Dacre Mar Qtr 1880 Romney 2c 61 Could this be her? Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek (W)" <westmorml@ntlworld.com> To: "Westmorland Mailing List" <ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] What became of ANN DACRE ? > With the snow and icy keeping me indoors, I have once again turned my > attention to my FANKLAND/FRANKLIN ancestors. > > On 21 February 1842, ANN FRANKLAND married MATTHEW DACRE, a widower, at > Kendal Holy Trinity. > > The 1851 census shows them in Highgate, Kendal with three sons Robert (6), > Isaac (4) and Richard (1). > MATTHEW died in 1860 and ANN DACRE is shown on the 1861 census as a widow > living alone in Finkle Street, Kendal. > > In 1871 ANN DACRE is now living at Bank Top, Holker with her son RICHARD > aged 21. > > I have traced RICHARD, and also the elder son ROBERT, through subsequent > census but I have as yet been unable to find out what happened to ANN > DACRE after 1971. > Can anyone help ? > I would be more than willing to share information with any other DACRE > researchers. > > Derek > In snowy Nottinghamshire. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

With the snow and icy keeping me indoors, I have once again turned my attention to my FANKLAND/FRANKLIN ancestors. On 21 February 1842, ANN FRANKLAND married MATTHEW DACRE, a widower, at Kendal Holy Trinity. The 1851 census shows them in Highgate, Kendal with three sons Robert (6), Isaac (4) and Richard (1). MATTHEW died in 1860 and ANN DACRE is shown on the 1861 census as a widow living alone in Finkle Street, Kendal. In 1871 ANN DACRE is now living at Bank Top, Holker with her son RICHARD aged 21. I have traced RICHARD, and also the elder son ROBERT, through subsequent census but I have as yet been unable to find out what happened to ANN DACRE after 1971. Can anyone help ? I would be more than willing to share information with any other DACRE researchers. Derek In snowy Nottinghamshire.

I apologize if you already have all this, but ... William Dobson was baptized at Lowther in 1629, the son of Christopher Dobson. Christopher Dobson was baptized at Lowther in 1599, the son of William Dobson. William Dobson was married at Lowther to Janet Pearson on 24 Oct 1593. John B. Wells III District Manager Colonial Insurance 770-683-6830(O) 678-378-6294(Cell) 770-683-8002(Fax) wellsga@bellsouth.net --- On Tue, 1/12/10, Mary B. <bonemarjo@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Mary B. <bonemarjo@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DOBSON To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 11:30 AM >snip< 2. Re: DOBSON (Mary B.) 3. Re: DOBSON (John Wells) > From: "Mary B." > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DOBSON > > > William DOBSON b. 25 July 1629 Lowther, Westmorland, d. Low Hall, Hackthorpe, Westmorland. > He married Jane (unknown) > They had Christopher Dobson b. 12 March 1670/71 Lowther, Westmorland, D. Warren House, Hackthorpe. > He married Margaret JACKSON 01 May 1714 at Lowther, Westmorland > They had John Dobson b. 07 October 1716 at Lowther, Westmorland > He married Christine Elizabeth Wilhelmina RITTER (She was born Flanders, Belgium) > They had Wilhelmina Dobson b. 1748 Low Hall, Hackthorpe, Westmorland - D. 1820. > She married John COLE 21 February 1787 at St. Mary's the Virgin in Nottingham. (Proven) > John COLE, son of John COLE and Francis TUFFIN, b. 16 July 1733 (Proven) > They had > John b. 20 Dec. 1767, > Mary b. 26 OCt 1769, > Elizabeth b. abt 1771, > Samuel b. 06 Mar 1774, married Eliz/Betty ATKINSON (my line) > William (married Nora STEPHENSON), > Sarah, Rachel, Jane, Hannah, Eunice > > IF anyone has any connections to the information above, I'd like to hear from you. As you can see, > there are lots 'holes' that need to be filled in and proven. > > Mary B. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ATKINSON - Staveley/Kendal; BROWNE - W-Ashford-Kent/Liverpool; > COLE - Holme-Pierrepont/Nottingham/Westmorland/Liverpool; > DOBSON - Nottingham/Westmorland; > JOHNSON - Liverpool; TUFFIN - Holme-Pierrepont/Nottingham > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:02:30 -0800 (PST) > From: John Wells > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DOBSON > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <758056.86998.qm@web180205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Mary, > > Do you know how your family came to be at Lowther? My ancestor Robert Wells lived at Thrimby and was a tenant there. His children were baptized in the 1610s and 1620s in both Morland and Lowther. I thought that was a bit peculiar. > > > John B. Wells > ? >snip< John Wells Sorry, John, but I do not know how they came to be there.  Since your WELLS were there before mine, maybe there was a marriage between WELLS and DOBSON families?  Maybe Jane was a WELLS?  OR DOBSON bought out your WELLS? IF it hadn't been for BMD Records at IGI, I would not have known that my DOBSON's were there.  Family notes only went as far as Eliz/Betty being born at Staveley, Westmorland and Samuel COLE b. at Holme-Pierrepont/Nottingham.  (At the moment, I can't put my hands on my source records, I do know the records were Not Submissions.)  Due to budget limits on retirement, I have not been able to buy the Cert.s to prove DOBSON information. Mary B. >                           _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390709/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terry, thank you. Art Terry Alderson wrote: >Art: Here is an Alderson UK site: Terry Alderson (knee hurts!) Toronto > > > >http://www.afhs.org/AFHS%20Home%20Page.htm > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Shirley, many thanks. Art > >

My lips are sealed Shirley

Hi Shirley. Don't tell anybody because if the Govt. finds out, they will be sure to tax it. Terry > From: tubberhall@aol.com > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:52:00 -0500 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Roger Alderson and Mary Faint, 1814 Warcop > > Terry > I like your sense of humour!!!!!!!!! > Shirley > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

Terry I like your sense of humour!!!!!!!!! Shirley

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