I'd be a millionaire too... the number of folk I've done the same to.... thanks again just reminds folk that no how experienced you are you should always check your notes!! I AM THE WORST CULPRIT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 26 January 2010 19:41 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES A cheque will do fine :) -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 26 January 2010 19:37 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thanks to Nick, it made me look at my notes again. Looks like I was barking up the wrong tree! Seems I ought to be looking at 14 & 16 High Street, Windermere, not Applethwaite. Applethwaite was the ecclesiastical district. Thanks again Nick for making me look again. The question is now where is High Street Windermere? Is it Bowness or elsewhere? Many thanks for those who may guide me in the right direction. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 19:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, his Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to live, between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know that, but Windermere today is different today. So which now a days today do I have to search and visit? Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Owen Sent: 26 January 2010 20:00 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES It's in Windermere; try Google! Liz Owen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Stuart" <nf.stuart@btinternet.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES >A cheque will do fine :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 26 January 2010 19:37 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Thanks to Nick, it made me look at my notes again. Looks like I was > barking > up the wrong tree! Seems I ought to be looking at 14 & 16 High Street, > Windermere, not Applethwaite. > > Applethwaite was the ecclesiastical district. Thanks again Nick for making > me look again. > > The question is now where is High Street Windermere? Is it Bowness or > elsewhere? > > Many thanks for those who may guide me in the right direction. > > Jane in Redcar > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart > Sent: 25 January 2010 19:28 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, > his > Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in > Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in > "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that > the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to > live, > between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows > why > he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the > sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the > west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will > remain unanswered. > > Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. > > Jane in Redcar > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart > Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, > 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this > already? > Nick > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > Hi there, > Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? > > Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born > Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in > Applethwaite/Windermere > around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. > > There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I > think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His > wife > was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. > > Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. > > Jane in Redcar > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A cheque will do fine :) -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 26 January 2010 19:37 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thanks to Nick, it made me look at my notes again. Looks like I was barking up the wrong tree! Seems I ought to be looking at 14 & 16 High Street, Windermere, not Applethwaite. Applethwaite was the ecclesiastical district. Thanks again Nick for making me look again. The question is now where is High Street Windermere? Is it Bowness or elsewhere? Many thanks for those who may guide me in the right direction. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 19:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, his Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to live, between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Nick I realise that Applethwaite is the ecclesiastical district for Windermere which is where I have gone wrong!!! Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Owen Sent: 25 January 2010 21:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Nothing wrong with Applethwaite and Windermere; it's sort of off to the left as you leave Windermere to go to Ambleside Liz Owen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Stuart" <nf.stuart@btinternet.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, > his > Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in > Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in > "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that > the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to > live, > between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows > why > he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the > sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the > west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will > remain unanswered. > > Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. > > Jane in Redcar > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart > Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, > 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this > already? > Nick > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > Hi there, > Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? > > Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born > Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in > Applethwaite/Windermere > around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. > > There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I > think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His > wife > was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. > > Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. > > Jane in Redcar > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Nick, it made me look at my notes again. Looks like I was barking up the wrong tree! Seems I ought to be looking at 14 & 16 High Street, Windermere, not Applethwaite. Applethwaite was the ecclesiastical district. Thanks again Nick for making me look again. The question is now where is High Street Windermere? Is it Bowness or elsewhere? Many thanks for those who may guide me in the right direction. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 19:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, his Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to live, between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Update Valerie Ann sent me the file from her Version 5 and my version 2010 read and converted this file OK (in fact I checked the specification and 2010 will read and convert any version from Version 5 or later). But as Art says the converted version will not read back into Version 5. The situation about running older versions of FTM is as follows: Anything prior to version 2005 (do not confuse this with version 5, version 2005 is sometimes referred to as version 16) can not be run on Vista. Version 16/2005/2006 will run on Vista but you need a patch from FTM to make it work properly Version 2007 and later will run OK on Vista. John -----Original Message----- From: Art Faint [mailto:ajfaint@earthlink.net] Sent: 26 January 2010 15:38 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Problem saving Family Tree Maker Valerie Ann, I am not completely sure I understand your question. However, I think John Steele is correct. I, like John, every few years upgrade my version of FTM and my files are still readible. But, as John says, the newer version 2010, will probably read in the version 5.0a version you have, but it may convert the format so that it is no longer readible by your older program. I am running FTM 2005 on my desktop and laptop, both of which are XP based. I regularily move my FTM files between the computers by CD and am going to try doing it with a flash drive. I have had no problem. Additionally, I have FTM 2008 on my laptop and it read in a file created in FTM 2005. I have not done the reverse. I did not like the 2008 presentation so I have kept my data in FTM 2005. You could send a file to John, as he suggested, as a trial. I am sure it would work. One thing that you could also do is contact Genealogy.com and ask them your question. Additionally, I would imagine that if you do run into a problem with an upgrade or computer operating system versus FTM application conflict, they could resolve it for you or even convert your files for you. Art in New Hampshire. Val Armitage wrote:

Hi Mary Lou: I wish I did. Only her date of birth and that she was married in Firbank. I suppose a marriage registration might help make a connection. Joan Albright -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of eng-westmorland-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 3:01 AM To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 5, Issue 16 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Bateman & Wilkinson of Westmorland (mary lou) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:18:24 -0500 From: "mary lou" <ml000@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Bateman & Wilkinson of Westmorland To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP910646CB4746C9EFB9FD1E805E0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Joan Do you know anything more about Sarah Wilkinson? I have a bunch of Wilkinsons from about the same time who married into the Downham family. My Downhams and Wilkinsons were from Crosthwaite & Lythe, Westmorland. Just a shot in the dark, but you never know. The Downhams came to Ontario, Canada in the early 1850's. Mary Lou ------------------------------ To contact the ENG-WESTMORLAND list administrator, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ENG-WESTMORLAND mailing list, send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ENG-WESTMORLAND Digest, Vol 5, Issue 16 ********************************************** -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

Valerie Ann, I am not completely sure I understand your question. However, I think John Steele is correct. I, like John, every few years upgrade my version of FTM and my files are still readible. But, as John says, the newer version 2010, will probably read in the version 5.0a version you have, but it may convert the format so that it is no longer readible by your older program. I am running FTM 2005 on my desktop and laptop, both of which are XP based. I regularily move my FTM files between the computers by CD and am going to try doing it with a flash drive. I have had no problem. Additionally, I have FTM 2008 on my laptop and it read in a file created in FTM 2005. I have not done the reverse. I did not like the 2008 presentation so I have kept my data in FTM 2005. You could send a file to John, as he suggested, as a trial. I am sure it would work. One thing that you could also do is contact Genealogy.com and ask them your question. Additionally, I would imagine that if you do run into a problem with an upgrade or computer operating system versus FTM application conflict, they could resolve it for you or even convert your files for you. Art in New Hampshire. Val Armitage wrote: >It works successfully with my Windows XP but when I back it up on disc or flash drive, it only seems to open again on my computer. > > > >

Nothing wrong with Applethwaite and Windermere; it's sort of off to the left as you leave Windermere to go to Ambleside Liz Owen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Stuart" <nf.stuart@btinternet.com> To: <eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, > his > Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in > Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in > "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that > the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to > live, > between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. > Nick > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows > why > he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the > sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the > west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will > remain unanswered. > > Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. > > Jane in Redcar > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart > Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > > Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, > 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this > already? > Nick > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor > Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 > To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES > Hi there, > Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? > > Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born > Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in > Applethwaite/Windermere > around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. > > There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I > think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His > wife > was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. > > Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. > > Jane in Redcar > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I found him in a directory as an auctioneer. Robert EADES was my gg grandfather. I would have to look carefully again thro' my notes but can I contact you again later? Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 19:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, his Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to live, between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane, my 1881 Census has him as an Apprentice Butcher to a Robert Eades, his Uncle ? in Attercliffe Cum Darnall, Sheffield. He marries in 1883 in Chesterfield Reg District. What makes you believe he lived in "Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880" ? The reason I'm interested is that the only Applethwaite I know is near Keswick, Cumbria, where I used to live, between Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake. Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 25 January 2010 18:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan Do you know anything more about Sarah Wilkinson? I have a bunch of Wilkinsons from about the same time who married into the Downham family. My Downhams and Wilkinsons were from Crosthwaite & Lythe, Westmorland. Just a shot in the dark, but you never know. The Downhams came to Ontario, Canada in the early 1850's. Mary Lou

Valerie Ann My experience is that FTM change the file formats from time to time but that later versions of the program will modify your old files the first time they are opened in the new program. This has always been successful for me but I have never gone from a very old version to the new one, usually only skipping one or two revisions. If you wanted to mail me the file then I would be happy to see if it will open in my FTM 2010 version. If by disk you mean CD, it is possible you are not closing off the disk, if the disk is not closed then it can only be read on your computer, or one identical. That should not be a problem on a flash drive. Though FTM may only be happy with files that are on the C: drive. I would also save a Gedcom version of the file, which FTM can do, whilst this will not save the extra details that FTM can handle it will at least keep a copy of your basic tree information in case of disaster. John -----Original Message----- From: Val Armitage [mailto:valerieann@aysgarth10.plus.com] Sent: 23 January 2010 19:04 To: ENG-WESTMORLAND@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] Problem saving Family Tree Maker Hello All I wonder if one of the Group could help me with a dilemma. I have an old version of Family Tree Maker (version 5.0a for Windows 98). It works successfully with my Windows XP but when I back it up on disc or flash drive, it only seems to open again on my computer. I have a lot of information stored in my Family Tree programme and am worried about losing it all should my ageing computer break down! I wondered if I bought an up to date version of Family Tree Maker, it would be possible to transfer my existing work?? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Valerie Ann ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Nick. I know all this already. I am just hoping SOMEONE knows why he went there. I have all his certificates but it's the filling in the sandwich I would love. As far as I know there were no relatives over the west side of the country-most odd. I guess just one of those that will remain unanswered. Thanks again for your efforts, it is appreciated. Jane in Redcar -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Stuart Sent: 25 January 2010 16:28 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane, I have located Haydon Bernard DAWES on the 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1991 Census returns. Are these any use or do you know this already? Nick -----Original Message----- From: eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-westmorland-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jane Taylor Sent: 23 January 2010 16:50 To: eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-WESTMORLAND] DAWES Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WESTMORLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All I wonder if one of the Group could help me with a dilemma. I have an old version of Family Tree Maker (version 5.0a for Windows 98). It works successfully with my Windows XP but when I back it up on disc or flash drive, it only seems to open again on my computer. I have a lot of information stored in my Family Tree programme and am worried about losing it all should my ageing computer break down! I wondered if I bought an up to date version of Family Tree Maker, it would be possible to transfer my existing work?? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks. Valerie Ann

Hi there, Can anyone help me with a DAWES problem? Haydn (and variations!) Bernard DAWES was a butcher from Derbyshire (born Ridgeway circa 1861) who appears to went to live in Applethwaite/Windermere around 1880. His daughter Lillian Ruth DAWES married a CLOUDSDALE. There was another daughter, Ida, but Haydon went on to be an auctioneer. I think he eventually went back to Derbyshire but died in Lancashire. His wife was Agnes nee BOLSOVER. Many thanks for any help no matter how trivial. Jane in Redcar

Hello Joan: I have found your family in Onondaga Township, Brant County, Brantford, Ontario, and could send you some records "off list" if you would like to receive them. Barb, Ontario, Canada.

hello listers, if anyone has access to the above marriage detail, (or any other info on Joseph Furness or Jane Hetherington), I would be most interested in seeing a copy of it. thank you Allison

My Great-great-great Grandparents, James Bateman [b. September 15, 1804] and Sarah Wilkinson [b. August 19, 1808] settled in Southern Ontario, Canada, after their marriage in Firbank, Westmorland on November 11, 1829. I could really use your help and expertise to find their families and where they lived. Joan Albright