Hi Here's another site on the subject. http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/haller.htm Regards Wendy Partridge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bird" <bobandchris2@btinternet.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Baby Farming > thankyou ken for that , my daughter and myself always believed that > something like that could have happened and am glad that someone else has > heard of it too . ive just got to try and trace my dads siblings now, > again > thanks a lot for that piece of info. chris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Poole" <kpoole01@rochester.rr.com> > To: "C. Pounder" <cpounder@ihug.co.nz> > Cc: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:55 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Baby Farming > > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Is this the article on Baby Farming you referred to?, my grandmother was >> lucky to get out alive. >> Her stepmother Frances Morrall listed her self as a Baby Farmer in the >> 1901 census in Tanworth. >> >> http://www.historybytheyard.co.uk/baby_farming.htm >> >> Thanks for the reference Chris, it puts that term from what I thought to >> be an off handed >> remark into a real societal reality. >> >> Cheers >> >> Ken >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Wendy for the link to the Baby Farming Paper. When I think of how lucky my family was that somehow my grandmother Nelly Baker Bott Poole given up at the birth (1890), by her mother Elizabeth Bott, who was probably seduced by John Baker a 24 year old married neighborhood man with no children, and then somehow survived with Francis Morrell on a farm called Witch Pits with a women who was a declared baby farmer from Tanworth in Arden, then lived to be 87 and had a long and prosperous life with her husband Thomas Samuel Poole I am simply stunned at how lucky she was given the circumstances and how lucky we were to have enjoyed her. She never once mentioned the whole experience to my father or any of us. Everyone should read it just to understand how women and children were treated during Victorian Times. http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/haller.htm Thank you again Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Partridge" <wendy.partridge@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Baby Farming > Hi > > Here's another site on the subject. > http://www.loyno.edu/~history/journal/1989-0/haller.htm > > Regards > Wendy Partridge > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Bird" <bobandchris2@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Baby Farming > > >> thankyou ken for that , my daughter and myself always believed that >> something like that could have happened and am glad that someone else has >> heard of it too . ive just got to try and trace my dads siblings now, >> again >> thanks a lot for that piece of info. chris >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ken Poole" <kpoole01@rochester.rr.com> >> To: "C. Pounder" <cpounder@ihug.co.nz> >> Cc: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:55 PM >> Subject: [B'ham] Baby Farming >> >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> Is this the article on Baby Farming you referred to?, my grandmother was >>> lucky to get out alive. >>> Her stepmother Frances Morrall listed her self as a Baby Farmer in the >>> 1901 census in Tanworth. >>> >>> http://www.historybytheyard.co.uk/baby_farming.htm >>> >>> Thanks for the reference Chris, it puts that term from what I thought to >>> be an off handed >>> remark into a real societal reality. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Ken >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Ken , Glad you got there in the end, the Baker name was the right one then! As you say 'Baby Farming ' was a touch and go thing back then. However as I suggested, the old couple may have just done it to help them to survive themselves and had no sinister intent. Like today there were some genuine people around and Nelly was lucky to have been placed with them and no one else. Glad to have been of some help to you. Chris P. NZ :-)