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    1. Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School
    2. john dodd
    3. Found This at project Getenberg, at http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14472/14472-h/14472-h.htm#Birm8 - Showell's dictionary of Birmingham Thought you might be interested. Blue Coat School (facing St. Phillip's Churchyard) founded in 1721, and was erected in 1724, provision having been made in the Act for building St. Philip's Church for securing the necessary land required for the school for a term of 1,000 years at 10s. per year. The first cost of the building was about £3,000, but many alterations and extensions have since been made thereto, the quaint little statues in the front being put up in 1770; they are the work of Mr. Edward Grubb, and are said to have been portraits of two of the children then actually in the school. The first bequest recorded is that of Mrs. Elizabeth White, who in 1722 left nearly 30 acres of land worth about £250 per year for the support of the school. In 1726 Benjamin Salusbury left 30s. per year for the preaching of a sermon at St. Martin's and St. Philip's, and a further 40s. per year as a subscription; as did also Thomas Dunscombe in 1729. In 1795 the Lord of the Manor presented the school with a slice of Birmingham Heath, above five acres in extent, which is now let on a long lease at £96 10s. per year. In 1806 other land was devised, and from time to time considerable sums have been invested in like manner and in consols, so that a fair income is derived from these sources, in addition to the voluntary and annual subscriptions, but judging from the past and the admirable way in which the funds have been administered it may be truly said that if the income were doubled or trebled so would be the benefits in like proportion. At first opening 22 boys and 10 girls were admitted, and 10 others of each sex were taught and clothed; the latter system, however, had many inconveniences, and was soon discontinued. At present the average number is 150 boys and 100 girls on the original foundation, 20 being paid for out of Fentham's Trust. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School > Hi Nivard > > Well, you might not have thought I was going mad, but I certainly did!! > > I have certainly found this most interesting, because it is easy to think > that the only schooling was either National Schools or the Sunday Union > Schools, before the Education Act was passed. > > I knew a little about Blue Coat Schools because when I was boarding in > Stourbridge we used to have to pass the Stourbridge Blue Coat School on > our > way into Town, and I knew that was fee paying and extremely expensive - > but > that is all I knew. > > I will take a look at the sites you mention later on today - I have not > got > a particular interest in schools as it has never been necessary, but it's > information always worth knowing for a later date, and again, if I find a > person missing I will now know where to look. > > Regards > > Pauline > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@btconnect.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:58 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School > > >> Hi Pauline >> >> Now I had not thought for a moment that you were going mad <g> >> >> This little exercise has been quite interesting, despite the fact that it >> started on a false premise :-) >> >> Its also been interesting finding out about the Blue Coat Schools of >> which >> there were many, it was not the only School system of its type either. >> >> In the search for information I came across the following two books >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18821/18821.txt >> >> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/13926/13926-8.txt >> >> I suspect they have been mentioned before on this list but for those who >> have not read them I would recommend a peek (project Gutenberg is free) >> >> With regard to your comment that there were possibly children staying at >> that or any school overnight, its also worth remembering that some >> institutions (Hospitals/Asylums for example) only enumerated the initials > of >> the person/patient. It was also brought up on another list that some had > the >> name reversed and that may have been carried through in any >> transcription. >> >> So worth checking for surname in the forename field and vice versa. >> >> >> Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) >> Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists >> >> >> >> > Well at least you can see that I am not going mad! >> > >> > I picked up a book at bedtime to do with Birmingham which I am > re-reading >> > and although the chapter was to do with how Birmingham developed, the > Blue >> > Coat School was mentioned. >> > It was a boarding school, so it would not have been uninhabited at all. >> > >> > The Blue Coat Charity School was an Anglican Foundation to provide >> > education >> > for the children of poorer families in the town who could not afford >> > the >> > fees of King Edward's. Essentially its purpose was to provide the > growing >> > town with a small army of apprentices and domestics, raised in > 'godliness >> > and good learning'. It admitted girls as well. Blue Coat moved to >> > Harborne >> > in 1930 and is now a wealthy and well-respected private school. >> > >> > It has occurred to me that some of us with members of the families > missing >> > on census night might have a child at this school, whereas we would be >> > expecting them to be home? >> > >> > Pauline >> >> >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/28/2006 07:56:55
    1. Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School
    2. Jon Newman
    3. The 'quaint little statues' are probably those that today gaze across to the Green Man Pub in Harborne at the edge of the School's present site. -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of john dodd Sent: 28 November 2006 14:57 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School Found This at project Getenberg, at http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14472/14472-h/14472-h.htm#Birm8 - Showell's dictionary of Birmingham Thought you might be interested. Blue Coat School (facing St. Phillip's Churchyard) founded in 1721, and was erected in 1724, provision having been made in the Act for building St. Philip's Church for securing the necessary land required for the school for a term of 1,000 years at 10s. per year. The first cost of the building was about £3,000, but many alterations and extensions have since been made thereto, the quaint little statues in the front being put up in 1770; they are the work of Mr. Edward Grubb, and are said to have been portraits of two of the children then actually in the school. _____________________________________________

    11/28/2006 11:47:09
    1. Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School
    2. Bryan Slim
    3. It is my understanding the original statues are now inside and replicas are outside Bryan Slim >The 'quaint little statues' are probably those that today gaze across to the >Green Man Pub in Harborne at the edge of the School's present site. > >-----Original Message----- >From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of john dodd >Sent: 28 November 2006 14:57 >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham Boarding School > > >Found This at project Getenberg, at >http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14472/14472-h/14472-h.htm#Birm8 - Showell's >dictionary of Birmingham >Thought you might be interested. >Blue Coat School (facing St. Phillip's Churchyard) founded in 1721, and was >erected in 1724, provision having been made in the Act for building St. >Philip's Church for securing the necessary land required for the school for >a term of 1,000 years at 10s. per year. The first cost of the building was >about £3,000, but many alterations and extensions have since been made >thereto, the quaint little statues in the front being put up in 1770; they >are the work of Mr. Edward Grubb, and are said to have been portraits of two >of the children then actually in the school. >_____________________________________________ > > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

    11/28/2006 04:19:03