Hi Marlene I know exactly what you mean if only we could have the 1911 census. Its just certificates or electoral rolls. I live in the UK but still struggle to find people after 1901. Good luck with your search. Wendy Partridge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shipman" <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth,St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY attn. please. > Thanks Wendy I am familiar with the site. Unfortunately I am going forward > from when my great grandparents left B'ham in 1878. Believe me, going > backwards to the 1700s was a breeze in comparison with trying to find the > various families after 1901! > Way Down Under we had no idea at all of the families left behind. > Regards > Marlene in New Zealand > Researching WARD, Stephens, Byrne, Edgeworth around Small Heath 1870s- > 1901+ > FAIRY around St Thomas & Handsworth 1890s + > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy Partridge" <wendy.partridge@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 8:42 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth,St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY > attn. > please. > > >> Would this site help. http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/mi/mi_indx.html >> >> Wendy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marlene Shipman" <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:08 AM >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth,St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY >> attn. >> please. >> >> >>> Hi David >>> Thanks! Too early for my lot unfortunately but it was worth a try! >>> Many thanks again. >>> Marlene >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Kenny" <dakenny@ozemail.com.au> >>> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 4:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth, St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY >>> attn. >>> please. >>> >>> >>>> G'day Marlene, >>>> >>>> Sorry my fiche for Baptism are from 1558 - 1830...Marriages 1558 - 1812 >>>> and Burial 1558 - 1900 >>>> >>>> Happy to lookup within those date ranges... >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> Marlene Shipman wrote: >>>> >>>>>Kia Ora David >>>>>Could you please tell me what time frame your fiche cover? I am >>>>>searching >>>>>for 4 baptisms from the same WEBB family viz >>>>>Clarence birth reg'd June Qtr 1898, >>>>>Ida Violet Dec Qtr 1900, >>>>>John Mar Qtr 1902, >>>>>Marguerite Sep Qtr 1905. >>>>>All the children were given the middle name of Fairy. All registrations >>>>>in >>>>>Handsworth. >>>>>regards >>>>>Marlene >>>>>Across the Ditch! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "David Kenny" <dakenny@ozemail.com.au> >>>>>To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:10 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth, St.Mary's parish records >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>John, >>>>>> >>>>>>I looked up the St Mary Handsworth Fiche, which I have and could only >>>>>>she the following Nortons... >>>>>> >>>>>>**William Norton & Sarah Hodgetts** >>>>>> >>>>>>**m. 21 Nov 1808** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Children:** >>>>>>**Elizabeth** >>>>>>**b. 5 November 1809 >>>>>>d. 12 July 1812** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Henry >>>>>>b. 7 July 1811** >>>>>> >>>>>>**George >>>>>>b. 20 February 1813** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Harriett >>>>>>b. 15 January 1815** >>>>>> >>>>>>**William >>>>>>b. 5 January 1817 >>>>>>** >>>>>>**Charles >>>>>>b. 4 March 1821** >>>>>> >>>>>>**David >>>>>>b. 15 June 1823 >>>>>>d. 4 September 1878** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Ann >>>>>>b. 9 November 1828** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Joseph >>>>>>b. 9 November 1828** >>>>>> >>>>>>**These are other Entries found at St. Mary's ** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Joan Norton >>>>>>d. 23 April 1563** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Ann wife of David Norton** >>>>>> >>>>>>**d. 10 December 1891** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>**Elsie Mary Norton** >>>>>> >>>>>>**d. 13 February 1896** >>>>>> >>>>>>**Note her parents are Arthur James & Emma Norton** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Regards >>>>>> >>>>>>David >>>>>>Ourimbah, NSW, Australia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>j norton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>> If anyone is going to the Birmingham Central Library I would >>>>>>>appreciate it very much if they would be kind enough to carry out a >>>>>>>lookup for me.I'm trying to find the parents of James Norton born >>>>>>>1803 >>>>>>>or >>>>>>>any of his brothers or sisters.I,m not even sure he was born there.I >>>>>>>do >>>>>>>know that he was married there to a Martha Cashmore on 25 Dec.1824 >>>>>>> Thank you so very much. >>>>>>> John from Alberta >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>--------------------------------- >>>>>>>The best gets better. See why everyone is raving about the All-new >>>>>>>Yahoo! >>>>>>>Mail. >>>>>>>_____________________________________________ >>>>>>>Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>>>>>>http://www.bham.de/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>>>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>_____________________________________________ >>>>>>Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>>>>>http://www.bham.de/ >>>>>> >>>>>>Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_____________________________________________ >>>>>Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>>>>http://www.bham.de/ >>>>> >>>>>Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>>> http://www.bham.de/ >>>> >>>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All The Freedom of Information Act 2000 holds out the prospect that, in future, no English or Welsh decennial population censuses will be closed to public inspection for 100 years. But that prospect appears to be under serious threat from a most unlikely source - the National Archives. The National Archives seems to be attempting to flout the FoI Act by failing to make proper and timely arrangements for 1. The general release of the 1911 Census for England and Wales before the records are 100 years old 2. The special release of short extracts from the 1911 Census, to individual applicants, before the census is on general release. (This type of access has been available to family historians for more than 30 years but has now been discontinued by the National Archives.) Fortunately, although the media has hardly mentioned this problem, many MPs are fully aware of it. Since, March 2004, three House of Commons petitions (known as Early Day Motions 871, 1198 and 2330) about the release of the 1911 Census, have attracted over 360 signatures from MPs. But several large family history organizations appear to have remained relatively disinterested in the problem. It is widely acknowledged that the major representatives of family historians in the UK are the Society of Genealogists (SoG), the Federation of Family History Societies (FFHS), the Association of Genealogists and Researchers in Archives (AGRA) and the Guild of One-Name Studies (GOONS). However, those organizations do not appear to have spoken out for the hundreds of family historians who have become victims of the National Archives' refusal to grant them Freedom of Information Act access to extracts from the 1911 Census. We have not seen any evidence that those organizations have written to the recently appointed chief executive of the National Archives, Natalie Ceeney, formally urging her to arrange for (a) the general release the Online 1911 Census before 2012 and/or (b) the special release of extracts from the census prior to the general release of the census online. In addition, the National Archives has informed us that it does not hold any information regarding communications, in the period January 2005 to August 2006, between itself and family history/genealogical organizations, about the release of the 1911 Decennial Census for England and Wales before 2012. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Partridge" <wendy.partridge@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth,St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY attn. please. > Hi Marlene > I know exactly what you mean if only we could have the 1911 census. Its > just > certificates or electoral rolls. I live in the UK but still struggle to > find > people after 1901. > > Good luck with your search. > > Wendy Partridge Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Mike Thank you for the very comprehensive information. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fisher" <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Handsworth,St.Mary's parish records- DAVID KENNY attn. please. > Hi All > > The Freedom of Information Act 2000 holds out the prospect that, in > future, > no English or Welsh decennial population censuses will be closed to public > inspection for 100 years. But that prospect appears to be under serious > threat from a most unlikely source - the National Archives. > The National Archives seems to be attempting to flout the FoI Act by > failing > to make proper and timely arrangements for.......................