Would somebody who has access to the 1841 and 1851 census returns for Birmingham please send me the information on the family of Francis Barnes and wife Elizabeth. Included in the family there should be an Eliza born about 1836 (1835). Does Francis also show up in 1861? Francis probably died before 1871 as I think I have found his widow in 1871 living with William Penner in St. Peter District 9 Birmingham. Thanks. Tony A. Hofstee, St. Thomas, ON, Canada

1841 Name Estimated birth year Birthplace Civil parish County/Island Alfred Barnes abt 1833 Warwickshire, England Birmingham Warwickshire Eliza Barnes abt 1835 Warwickshire, England Birmingham Warwickshire Elizabeth Barnes abt 1811 Warwickshire, England Birmingham Warwickshire Francis Barnes abt 1806 ( not Warwickshire) Birmingham Warwickshire Thos Barnes abt 1837 Warwickshire, England Birmingham Warwickshire Civil parish: Birmingham Hundred: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Cobshill Street Occupation: Carpenter Source information: HO107/1145/5 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Folio: 10 Page: 13 Line number: 2 1851 Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 11 Branston St. Occupation: Joiner & Cabinet Maker ( Frances sen. ) Brass Cork Founder ( Alfred) Pearl Worker ( Eliza & Thomas) Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2059; Folio: 107; Page: 27 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: All Saints ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Barnes 18 Eliza Barnes 16 Elizth Barnes 39 Frances Barnes 40 Frances Barnes 6 Thos Barnes 14 Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil parish County/Island Eliza Barnes Frances, Elizth abt 1835 Birmingham Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Elizth Barnes Frances abt 1812 Birmingham Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Frances Barnes Elizth abt 1811 Colchester, Essex, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire Frances Barnes Frances, Elizth abt 1845 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Thos Barnes Frances, Elizth abt 1837 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire Alfred Barnes Frances, Elizth abt 1833 Birmingham Son Birmingham Warwickshire 1861 1861 England Census about Francis J Barnes Name: Francis J Barnes Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Father's name: Francis J Mother's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 4 Hicks Square Occupation: Cabinet maker ( Francis senior & junior) Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2147; Folio: 70; Page: 17 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 83 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Barnes 49 Francis J Barnes 56 Francis J Barnes 16 Elizabeth Barnes Francis J abt 1812 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Francis J Barnes Elizabeth abt 1805 Colchester, Essex, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire Francis J Barnes Francis J, Elizabeth abt 1845 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire On 28 Dec 2006, at 19:30, Anthony Hofstee wrote: > Would somebody who has access to the 1841 and 1851 census returns for > Birmingham please send me the information on the family of Francis > Barnes and wife Elizabeth. Included in the family there should be an > Eliza born about 1836 (1835). Does Francis also show up in > 1861? Francis probably died before 1871 as I think I have found his > widow in 1871 living with William Penner in St. Peter District 9 > Birmingham. Thanks. Tony > A. Hofstee, St. Thomas, ON, Canada > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >