Hi Their daughter Kate's birth was registered Sept Qtr 1855 in B'ham 6d/96, there may have been a child of theirs named Selina birth reg. Mar Qtr 1857 6d/117 died June 1863 and/or a Charles birth registered Dec Qtr 1857 6d/130 Mary Jane Mar Q 1858 6d/7 B'ham? William was registered Mar Q 1859 6d/104 B'ham Eva was registered Sept Qtr 1861 6d/102 B'ham Albert was registered June 1862 6d/116 B'ham There was also a George C registered in June 1866 B'ham who might have been registered late? There was an Eliza who died Sept Qtr 1865 6d/1_4 - most likely his wife, as WILLIAM M /PENNER/ born Lyon is on the 1881 census with a wife named Caroline, son William born 1859, son Albert born 1862, married daughter Kate ROBERTS & a grandson.plus 2 children from his 2nd marriage. William M PINNER appears to have remarried to Caroline TOLLEY Dec Q 1877 6d/504 All the registrations point to B'ham as opposed to Aston especially Eva? Not sure whether this helps or hinders?? Sorry I haven't got 1861. Happy hunting Marlene Anthony Hofstee wrote: > William was born about 1839 in Lyons, France. He married in 1854 > with Eliza Barnes. William was obviously very young when he > married. I have children Kate (1855), William (1859), Eva (1861) and > Albert (1864). He was a gun finisher. I have no idea how old Eliza > was nor where she was born. Tony > > At 06:21 AM 12/26/2006, you wrote: > >> Sorry, no luck with this at all. >> Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of >> children, occupation? >> Anne >> On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: >> >> >>> Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William >>> Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, >>> Birmingham. Thanks. Tony >>> >>> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Anthony - I think this may be them! Found by looking for Kate born 1855 + - 2 in Birmingham! 1861 England Census about Kate Primer Name: Kate Primer Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Court 1 Hicks Square ( between 5 & 6) Occupation: Gun finisher Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Primer 25 Eva Primer 7 Mo Kate Primer 5 Selina Primer 3 William Primer 23 William Primer 2 Eliza Primer William abt 1836 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Eva Primer William, Eliza abt 1860 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Kate Primer William, Eliza abt 1856 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Selina Primer William, Eliza abt 1858 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire William Primer Eliza abt 1838 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire William Primer William, Eliza abt 1859 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2147; Folio: 70; Page: 17; HTH Anne On 27 Dec 2006, at 11:44, Marlene Shipman wrote: > Hi > Their daughter Kate's birth was registered Sept Qtr 1855 in B'ham > 6d/96, > there may have been a child of theirs named Selina birth reg. Mar Qtr > 1857 6d/117 died June 1863 and/or a Charles birth registered Dec Qtr > 1857 6d/130 > Mary Jane Mar Q 1858 6d/7 B'ham? > William was registered Mar Q 1859 6d/104 B'ham > Anthony Hofstee wrote: >> William was born about 1839 in Lyons, France. He married in 1854 >> with Eliza Barnes. William was obviously very young when he >> married. I have children Kate (1855), William (1859), Eva (1861) and >> Albert (1864). He was a gun finisher. I have no idea how old Eliza >> was nor where she was born. Tony >> >> At 06:21 AM 12/26/2006, you wrote: >> >>> Sorry, no luck with this at all. >>> Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of >>> children, occupation? >>> Anne >>> On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William >>>> Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, >>>> Birmingham. Thanks. Tony >>>> >>>> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >