Peter, It appears that Harriet was indeed the mother as Ezekiel is described as a grandson to William and Elizabeth on the 1861 census. Harriet went on to marry a William Ball in Birmingham QE Jun 1867 6d 36 and is found on the 1871 census with her now widowed father living with her new family. I would say that Elizabeth had an illegitimate child and for convenience she used her father's name when having her son baptised. It was done often enough. However obtaining Ezekiel's birth certificate may throw more light on the subject. Peter I have four census images which I am sending to you off list. Linda Staffs UK Researching: Cook(e) Plant Mason Keys Pearsall and variants Broster Rastall Turner Smith Miller Morgan Simmons Baker >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Turner" <peterct1945@yahoo.co.uk> >> To: <Eng-Warks-Birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:54 PM >> Subject: [B'ham] Interpretation? >> >> >> > This is a transcript from the 1851: >> > >> > Head: CHINN, William >> > Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace >> > William CHINN Head M 53 M Gardener Tanworth-WAR >> > Elizabeth CHINN Wife M 52 F --- Broom-WAR >> > Harriett CHINN Daur U 26 F Laundress Birmingham-WAR >> > Ezekiel CHINN Son - 8m M --- Birm-WAR >> > Address: Tennant St 21 Court 1 House, Birmingham >> > Census Place: Birmingham ---, Warwickshire >> > PRO Reference: HO/107/2052/215-47 >> > >> > ***************************** >> > And from the LDS: >> > >> > EZEKIEL CHINN >> > Christening: 05 JAN 1851 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick, >> > England >> > >> > Parents: >> > Father: WILLIAM CHINN Family >> > Mother: HARRIET >> > Source Information: >> > Batch No.: Dates: C041171 1829 - 1853 >> > ******************************************************** >> > And, GRO >> > Registered as Wm Ezekiel Chinn, Sep 1850, Bham XVI 408 >> > >> > Appart from the obvious - is there another interpretation? >> > >> > Peter Turner >> > >> > >> > Peter Turner (Birmingham, UK) >> > peterct1945@yahoo.co.uk

But a son of the grandparents - called not unsurprisingly William - could have married a Harriet - a fairly common name - and both could have died. Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "LindaFH" <lindafh@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Interpretation? > Peter, > It appears that Harriet was indeed the mother as Ezekiel is described as a > grandson to William and Elizabeth on the 1861 census. Harriet went on to > marry a William Ball in Birmingham QE Jun 1867 6d 36 and is found on the > 1871 census with her now widowed father living with her new family. > > I would say that Elizabeth had an illegitimate child and for convenience > she > used her father's name when having her son baptised. It was done often > enough. However obtaining Ezekiel's birth certificate may throw more light > on the subject. > > Peter I have four census images which I am sending to you off list. > Linda > Staffs UK > Researching: > Cook(e) Plant Mason Keys Pearsall and variants > Broster Rastall Turner Smith Miller > Morgan Simmons Baker > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Turner" <peterct1945@yahoo.co.uk> >>> To: <Eng-Warks-Birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:54 PM >>> Subject: [B'ham] Interpretation? >>> >>> >>> > This is a transcript from the 1851: >>> > >>> > Head: CHINN, William >>> > Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace >>> > William CHINN Head M 53 M Gardener Tanworth-WAR >>> > Elizabeth CHINN Wife M 52 F --- Broom-WAR >>> > Harriett CHINN Daur U 26 F Laundress Birmingham-WAR >>> > Ezekiel CHINN Son - 8m M --- Birm-WAR >>> > Address: Tennant St 21 Court 1 House, Birmingham >>> > Census Place: Birmingham ---, Warwickshire >>> > PRO Reference: HO/107/2052/215-47 >>> > >>> > ***************************** >>> > And from the LDS: >>> > >>> > EZEKIEL CHINN >>> > Christening: 05 JAN 1851 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick, >>> > England >>> > >>> > Parents: >>> > Father: WILLIAM CHINN Family >>> > Mother: HARRIET >>> > Source Information: >>> > Batch No.: Dates: C041171 1829 - 1853 >>> > ******************************************************** >>> > And, GRO >>> > Registered as Wm Ezekiel Chinn, Sep 1850, Bham XVI 408 >>> > >>> > Appart from the obvious - is there another interpretation? >>> > >>> > Peter Turner >>> > >>> > >>> > Peter Turner (Birmingham, UK) >>> > peterct1945@yahoo.co.uk > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >