This is the nearest that shows up in 1841 - there is a son, born 1839 but he is Joseph not William Name Estimated birth year Birthplace Civil parish County/Island View Image Joseph Penner abt 1839 Warwickshire, England Preston Baggott Warwickshire Mary Penner abt 1836 Warwickshire, England Preston Baggott Warwickshire Sarah Penner abt 1816 Warwickshire, England Preston Baggott Warwickshire Thos Penner abt 1811 Warwickshire, England Preston Baggott Warwickshire Civil parish: Preston Baggott Hundred: Barlichway (Henley Division) County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Preston Hill Occupation: Ag Lab Source information: HO107/1124/17 Registration district: Stratford on Avon Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Folio: 8 Page: 9 Line number: 25 In 1851 we have: Name: Thos Pinner Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1808 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Bethina Gender: Male Where born: Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 52 Lichfield St. Occupation: Thomas senior and junior - tailor and William is a GUN MAKER! Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2057; Folio: 59; Page: 36 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 120 Household Members: Name Age Ann Pinner 12 Bethina Pinner 44 Emma Pinner 7 Thos Pinner 43 Thos Pinner 20 Thos Pinner 5 Wm Pinner 15 Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Civil parish County/Island Ann Pinner Thos, Bethina abt 1839 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Bethina Pinner Thos abt 1807 Lichfield, Staffordshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Emma Pinner Thos, Bethina abt 1844 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Thos Pinner Bethina abt 1808 Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire Thos Pinner Thos, Bethina abt 1831 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Thos Pinner Thos, Bethina abt 1846 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Wm Pinner Thos, Bethina abt 1836 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2057; Folio: 59; Page: 36 On 29 Dec 2006, at 18:34, Anthony Hofstee wrote: > Thanks to Marlene Shipman the family of William Pinner was found in > the 1861 Birmingham census under the name of Primer. In 1871, 1881, > 1891 and 1901 William is said to be born in France. However the 1861 > census says he was born in Birmingham about 1838. His father is > supposedly Thomas Pinner. Is there a Thomas Pinner to be found in > the 1841 or 1851 census of Birmingham with a child William born about > 1838? Thanks. Happy New Year to everyone and thanks for all the > help. This group has been wonderful. Tony > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >