Hello Janet, What about Thomas Hales, 15 in 1851 father Samuel, mother Anne, born Birmingham? Remember how some put the "H" in front of words with vowels.... I've found this. Look at the family. Siblings Henry, Hephribah (there's a name for you) , William and Philip. A long shot, just a thought. Kathryne

Hello Kathryne Thanks for your reply. I will try more name variants. HALES seems a good idea. I don't think this is him, though, as he says his father is Thomas. Thanks again Janet -----Original Message----- Hello Janet, What about Thomas Hales, 15 in 1851 father Samuel, mother Anne, born Birmingham? Remember how some put the "H" in front of words with vowels.... I've found this. Look at the family. Siblings Henry, Hephribah (there's a name for you) , William and Philip. A long shot, just a thought. Kathryne _____________________________________________