Hello Graham Now you mention it I do remember your family! I just saw JARVIS in the postings and responded without thinking about the wider issues - its great you have made good progress. Best wishes Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Stanley" <graham_stanley@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Elizabeth and Laura BOWEN > Ros > You are so right about that. So right that in fact it was you who found my > granny in the 1891 census, indexed on Ancestry as Pricilla JAMES! > I am fortunate enough to be fairly well sorted on the Jarvis side of the > family now, thanks to you. Nearly a year later though, I am still trying > to > get a breakthrough on her mother's family, the BOWENs. > Best wishes > Graham > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ros Jarvis" <harbro.town@ntlworld.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 4:13 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Elizabeth and Laura BOWEN > > >>I find JARVIS is quite often misspelled James (and variations) in >> transcriptions - if that's any help >> >> Ros (Jarvis) >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marlene Shipman" <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 12:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Elizabeth and Laura BOWEN >> >> >>> Hi Graham >>> I presume you have your gt grandmother's birth date from family history? >>> Her birth cert will give her mother's name if you're desperate! >>> William Charles Jarvis birth is registered as Dec 1855 6b/495 at >>> Walsall. >>> Laura Bowen appears as an "inmate" of the Walton Rd Major Lester's Girls >>> Home - a scholar - in 1881. She was born in B'ham. according to the >>> census. There is a birth in Coventry June 1867. I wonder if that >>> indicates her mother might have remarried after Elizabeth's birth and >>> before Laura's? >>> More interesting, I think, might be to follow the Laura BOWN shown on >>> the 1881 aged 12. She is shown with a mother Harriet and various >>> siblings. I'd love a look at the original census for this entry as the >>> 3 Boarders are shown as JEVONS. Might that be a corruption of Jarvis? >>> A Look up for the 1871 census for Laura Bowen or Bown born +/-1867 B'ham >>> should be useful as Elizabeth might be shown with the family. You would >>> soon tell if there has been a remarriage! >>> Sometimes you just have to go all around the problem to get the answers! >>> Sorry I don't have the census info! >>> Marlene >>> >>> >>> Graham Stanley wrote: >>>> I am searching for details of my gt grandmother's family who I think >>>> were >>>> called BOWEN. >>>> Her name was Elizabeth and she "married" William Charles Jarvis >>>> sometime >>>> before ( I hope) the birth of my granny in Aston on 17 May 1879. I >>>> can't >>>> find their marriage certificate on FreeBMD and I suppose it is possible >>>> that they never married officially. >>>> The family are living at 55 Staniforth St, Aston, B'ham in 1881 and >>>> Elizabeth gives her birthplace as B'ham and from her age would have >>>> been >>>> born around 1860/1861. By 1891 they have moved to Walsall (her >>>> husband's >>>> birthplace) and have been joined by her unmarried sister, Laura BOWEN, >>>> also born in B'ham, around 1869/1870. Laura's presence is my only clue >>>> as >>>> to Elizabeth's maiden name. >>>> Unfortunately, I have not been able to trace either of the girls in the >>>> earlier census returns or to find a birth certificate for them on >>>> FreeBMD. I did find an Elizabeth Bowers in the 1861 census but from >>>> FreeBMD there was an Elizabeth Bowers born in 1860, so this information >>>> on the census is probably not a transcription error. >>>> I appreciate that BOWEN is a fairly common name in B'ham but wondered >>>> if >>>> anyone can help me find the family of Elizabeth and Laura? >>>> Best wishes >>>> Graham >>>> Twickenham >>>> _____________________________________________ >>>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>>> http://www.bham.de/ >>>> >>>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >