Well, MY relations on the other side of the family...and I quote....'OWR side of the famileee were all engineeeers', always told to me in a lah de dah voice. OWR lot, you see, were just bricklayers from Birmingham...sad. Well, I checked, sorry to say, they were mostly MYners, from Cornwall, and came to Oz and ended up bushmen and blacksmiths. Ah, the joys of on line census indexes. Cornwall, for them, was a disaster because it was all on line. Your lot could have been imprisoned for political reasons. You could try a name search on national archives, they might be listed.......so the money they had may have been their own......yeah right.....robyndehood. qld. oz. ---- Jo Raine <jo.raine@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Charles KNOWLES was my 3xggfather. He was (I think) the son of John KNOWLES > and Ruth born in Dudley, Worcestershire around 1820-22. He married Eliza > BUTCHER in the JuneQ of 1845. And they had 4 sons - William Henry (my > 2xggf), Richard, John and Joseph. > > Charles appears to have spent the 1871 and 1881 censuses in prison - 1871 in > Woking,Surrey listed as an Invalid Convict and in 1881 he is in Parkhurst on > the Isle of Wight. Also listed in the 1881 Census for Parkhurst is a Joseph > Knowles who may well be his son, Joseph. Adding to the jailbird contingent > for this lot, his other son, Richard appears to be in Pentonville in 1881. > > Does anyone have any idea just what they were up to - neither Pentonville or > Parkhurst were 'local' prisons so it must have been something fairly > serious. Is there an index to the local / Birmingham papers of the time > that could point me in the right direction. > > Just to show the validity of family legends. My mother always thought the > Knowles were the 'posh' part of the family and came from money. It was quite > amusing to tell her that if they did, it might not have been their's in the > first place... > > > > Jo Raine > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message