Hello Joe I know you are disappointed that your family cannot be found in 1851. Don't let this lack of information stop you from finding your Robert's origins as you know where he was born from later censuses. I have searched for you on Ancestry and on the tri county disk with no luck. We in a worse position with our Thomas ELLIS as he simply doesn't seem to appear in either 1851 or 1841 and so far we simply cannot find him with his parents (he married in 1857) nor can we find his baptism. If anyone comes across a Thomas ELLIS born 1836 in Birmingham with a father Thomas (Spur Maker) I will be eternally grateful! Good luck Janet Northampton Hello List. Joe Howorth here I am still looking for help of any info on my Gt,Gt,Grandfather Robert Howorth and family on the 1851 Census.

As to lost family i am still searching for Roberrt LEES .b c1850 on later cencus states Holywood .Warks as place of birth, i cannot find him on 1871 or earlier ones and cannot find a birth . He married in Birm in 1873. not found his death yet either . i have tried variations of the surname. any suggestions ?? Jean -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Janet Ellis Sent: 11 January 2007 22:18 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Robert Howorth Hello Joe I know you are disappointed that your family cannot be found in 1851. Don't let this lack of information stop you from finding your Robert's origins as you know where he was born from later censuses. I have searched for you on Ancestry and on the tri county disk with no luck. We in a worse position with our Thomas ELLIS as he simply doesn't seem to appear in either 1851 or 1841 and so far we simply cannot find him with his parents (he married in 1857) nor can we find his baptism. If anyone comes across a Thomas ELLIS born 1836 in Birmingham with a father Thomas (Spur Maker) I will be eternally grateful!