Hello, I've been tracing Richard Morris, a silversmith, who had a daughter called Charlotte. For some bizarre reason, Richard's wife (Charlotte's mother) is "Sally" on the certificates and yet "Sarah" on the censuses. Can anyone think why this might be? Richard passed away after the 1871 census so I am trying to find Sally/Sarah in 1881, 1891, and possibly 1901. Sally would have been born circa 1818. Freebmd list a death in 1899. I was about to order the certificate but then I saw that Ancestry lists a patient in the workhouse in 1891. If the certificate is for an S Morris who passed away in the workhouse, how can I be sure she is my S Morris? I was hoping she might have been with family, which would have been a useful cross-check. The census says she was deaf and dumb, yet in the previous censuses she was not listed as such. Does this mean that this lady is unlikely to be the one I seek? Thank you, Stephen.

Sally can be a nickname for Sarah. Anne On 26 Jun 2008, at 15:14, Stephen wrote: > Hello, > > I've been tracing Richard Morris, a silversmith, who had a daughter > called Charlotte. For some bizarre reason, Richard's wife (Charlotte's > mother) is "Sally" on the certificates and yet "Sarah" on the > censuses. Can anyone think why this might be?

Hello Stephen, "Sally" was often a nickname for "Sarah", although it is strange that she is listed on certificates as "Sally" rather than the more formal "Sarah". It is also possible that she was actually christened Sally and the census taker decided that as this was a nickname she would list her as Sarah on the census form. Regards, Jean 2008/6/26 Stephen <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > I've been tracing Richard Morris, a silversmith, who had a daughter > called Charlotte. For some bizarre reason, Richard's wife (Charlotte's > mother) is "Sally" on the certificates and yet "Sarah" on the > censuses. Can anyone think why this might be? > > Richard passed away after the 1871 census so I am trying to find > Sally/Sarah in 1881, 1891, and possibly 1901. Sally would have been > born circa 1818. > > Freebmd list a death in 1899. I was about to order the certificate but > then I saw that Ancestry lists a patient in the workhouse in 1891. If > the certificate is for an S Morris who passed away in the workhouse, > how can I be sure she is my S Morris? I was hoping she might have been > with family, which would have been a useful cross-check. > > The census says she was deaf and dumb, yet in the previous censuses > she was not listed as such. Does this mean that this lady is unlikely > to be the one I seek? > > Thank you, > Stephen. > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Jean Collen

Hi Stephen Sally is a nickname for Sarah. My 2 x gt.grandmother was christened Sarah but always known as Sally. Judy > Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:14:39 +0100> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: [B'ham] Sally or Sarah Morris b. circa 1818> > Hello,> > I've been tracing Richard Morris, a silversmith, who had a daughter> called Charlotte. For some bizarre reason, Richard's wife (Charlotte's> mother) is "Sally" on the certificates and yet "Sarah" on the> censuses. Can anyone think why this might be?> > Richard passed away after the 1871 census so I am trying to find> Sally/Sarah in 1881, 1891, and possibly 1901. Sally would have been> born circa 1818.> > Freebmd list a death in 1899. I was about to order the certificate but> then I saw that Ancestry lists a patient in the workhouse in 1891. If> the certificate is for an S Morris who passed away in the workhouse,> how can I be sure she is my S Morris? I was hoping she might have been> with family, which would have been a useful cross-check.> > The census says she was deaf and dumb, yet in the previous censuses> she was not listed as such. Does this mean that this lady is unlikely> to be the one I seek?> > Thank you,> Stephen.> > _____________________________________________> _____________________________________________> > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem.> > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected]> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Great deals on almost anything at eBay.co.uk. Search, bid, find and win on eBay today! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000004ukm/direct/01/

On 26 Jun, Stephen <[email protected]> wrote: > The census says she was deaf and dumb, yet in the previous censuses > she was not listed as such. Does this mean that this lady is unlikely > to be the one I seek? No - she may have developed deafness as a result of noise at work - there were no laws regarding noise levels in the Victorian era, and the dumbness may be a result of being unable to hear questions directed at her. Or it could be an error by the enumerator... -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

On 26 Jun, Stephen <[email protected]> wrote: > The census says she was deaf and dumb, yet in the previous censuses > she was not listed as such. Does this mean that this lady is unlikely > to be the one I seek? Just a thought, have you checked that she is the only one on the page with deaf/dumb ticked? Sometimes the enumerators used this column to mark off the records as they checked them into the book. Chris