hi John, I've had a look & can't find any of them. I'm fairly sure I have read theat the 1841 census is incomplete, possibly due to dampness. Jane John Ball <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Listers, Can anyone help find my Thompson family in the 1841 census? I'm researching my great great grandparents Thomas Thompson and Ann Pascall, who married in 1838 at St George's Church, B'ham. They were then living in Mary Ann Street, near St Paul's Church; Ann's maiden name was Pascall and Thomas was a locksmith. Prior to the 1841 census, Thomas and Ann had two children: Thomas, b. 1838, and George, b. 1840 (the dates are from baptism records at St Thomas's Church). So there should be four members of the family in the 1841 census. The problem is, I cannot find the family in the 1841 census. I've searched all the entries for Mary Ann Street (civil parish of St Paul's, enumeration district 9), and also all the entries for William Street off Islington Row, close to St Thomas's Church (civil parish of St Thomas, enumeration districts 12 and 13). I strongly suspect that Thomas and Ann had moved to William Street by the time of the birth of their first child, five months after their marriage. I've checked the 1841 entry for Ann's parents (at Donnington Wood, Lilleshall, Shropshire), but Thomas and Ann and the children were not with them. The reason I checked William Street is that four more children were born in 1842, 1843, 1845, and 1848, all baptised at St Thomas's. The youngest child's birth certificate shows the family living at No 2 Court 6, William Street. By the 1851 census, Thomas had died (probably in 1849), but Ann was still living off a court behind William Street, and continued to do so for at least a further 20 years. I'm applying for the birth certificate of the eldest child, to obtain confirmation of the family's address in July 1838 I wonder if there may be entries missing from the census for William Street? In particular, the residents of the courts at the back of William Street do not seem to be included. I'd be grateful for any help in tracing my Thompson family's whereabouts in 1841. Many thanks, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane Dyer <[email protected]> wrote: hi John, I've had a look & can't find any of them. I'm fairly sure I have read theat the 1841 census is incomplete, possibly due to dampness. ============== Dear Jane, Thank you for looking, and for your thoughts about missing census sections. If anyone can confirm that sections of the 1841 census for Birmingham are missing - and possibly identify which parts are missing - I would be able to abandon further searches for my Thompson family in the 1841 census. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: [email protected] John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/

Hi John To see if any parts of a census are known to be missing go to the National Archives http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ Select "The Catalogue" from the search the archives menu Select "The Catalogue" to enter Enter Missing in the first search box and in the Department Code or Series search box enter the reference for that year HO107 = 1841 & 1851 RG9 1861 RG10 1871 RG11 1881 RG12 1891 RG13 1901 That will produce a list of known missing pieces of the census for that year Some are not immediately obvious as the 1841 for example is organised by Hundred Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) PS you can use the same format above to find the census ref for a given place by substituting Missing for the place you seek > Thank you for looking, and for your thoughts about missing census > sections. > > If anyone can confirm that sections of the 1841 census for Birmingham are > missing - and possibly identify which parts are missing - I would be able > to > abandon further searches for my Thompson family in the 1841 census. > > Kind regards, > > John

Ancestry has lists of missing areas for each of the censuses. I checked - none in Warwickshire or anywhere near the Birmingham area are down as missing. Anne On 18 Aug 2008, at 20:05, John Ball wrote: > Jane Dyer <[email protected]> wrote: > hi John, I've had a look & can't find any of them. I'm fairly sure I > have > read theat the 1841 census is incomplete, possibly due to dampness. > ============== > > Dear Jane, > > Thank you for looking, and for your thoughts about missing census > sections. > > If anyone can confirm that sections of the 1841 census for > Birmingham are > missing - and possibly identify which parts are missing - I would be > able to > abandon further searches for my Thompson family in the 1841 census. > > Kind regards, > > John