Hi Karina haven't got all the answers but these links are worth checking out. http://www.bmsgh.org/parish/warw/tyaib/cofeindex.htm http://www.bham.de/index_churches.html A journeyman of any kind was simply someone who was regarded as having reached a skill level necessary to do a full days work in a specific trade. For example a Brass Founder Journeyman. Dave On 13 Jul 2008, at 09:35, karina bailey wrote: Hello All on the Warks/Birmingham List I'm hoping to maybe find answers to queries or possible links to my Baker Family. I'm a relative beginner to Birmingham research and don't have great knowledge as to the areas my Ancestors lived. Because of this it feels like looking for a needle in a haystack. The information I have so far: Thomas Baker married Charlotte Bayliss 28 Mar 1802 St Martins Birmingham. I have obtained a copy of this entry from Birmingham Library, on it it states that he was of this parish - what general area does St Martins cover? I haven't been able to locate a Baptism for Thomas or Charlotte as yet. Thomas is also noted as being a widower. They had 3 children: All St Martins Sarah Baker 21 May 1807 Thomas Baker 03 April 1809 Joseph Baker 02 Dec 1811 ** My 3x Grt Grandfather Joseph Married Selina Smith 09 Sep 1833 Aston Juxta, Birmingham They had 7 children: Selina Baker 20 Jun 1834 St Martins Joseph Baker 06 Oct 1836 St Martins Benjamin Baker 21 Jan 1838 ** My 2x Grt Grandfather St Martins William Baker 14 Oct 1839 St Martins Anne Baker 15 Apr 1844 Elizabeth Baker 1849 Sarah Baker 1855 On the 1841 Census Joseph and Selina are living in Coleshill St, It's stated that Joseph was a Journeyman Warks. Can someone tell me where Coleshill St is located and why he would be noted as a journeyman, if he was born in Birmingaham? On the 1851 Census they are living at 16 Potters St, which I believe to be Bishops Ryder. Are these two areas near to each other and which churches are located in Bishops Ryder? I'm hoping for a geography lesson here... so I can get my bearings. Thanks in advance Karina