Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood!  Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts" ----- Original Message ---- > From: sue <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > journeyman > A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully qualified > employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > it derives from the French journée... > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > >                         sue > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > giving your contact details?  Other researchers will then be able to make > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul There are three stages, apprenticeship (usually for seven years tied to a master craftsman) Journeyman (who had served his apprenticeship but worked for someone else) and then Master Journeyman derives from the French and means paid by the day Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood! Cheers "it's what's in the grooves that counts"

A journeyman is someone who has already served an apprenticeship in a particular trade and passed the necessary trade test. In other words, he is a qualified fitter, brass founder, boiler maker, electrician etc. We could do with some electrician journeymen, or, better still, masters, in South Africa to sort out our power problems! Regards, Jean in cold Johannesburg 2008/7/13 Paul Gebhard <[email protected]>: > Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? > I thought journeyman meant that they were "mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot > from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > > "it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a trade and worked as a fully > qualified > > employee. The term originated in the regulations of the medieval trade > guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, I am a klutz from Qld, Oz. I thought they were mobile and worked from place to place too.... robyndehood.At 05:01 AM 14/07/2008, you wrote: >Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? >I thought journeyman meant that they were >"mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > >"it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > >----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a > trade and worked as a fully qualified > > employee. The term originated in the > regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to > "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" >events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your >contact details? Other researchers will then be >able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >[email protected] with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

don't worry, that's what I thought although the explanation, now I know it, is logical Jane Robyn Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, I am a klutz from Qld, Oz. I thought they were mobile and worked from place to place too.... robyndehood.At 05:01 AM 14/07/2008, you wrote: >Why didn't they just use the word Apprentice then? >I thought journeyman meant that they were >"mobile" - but hey, I am an idiot from Ladywood! > > Cheers > > >"it's what's in the grooves that counts" > > >----- Original Message ---- > > From: sue > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 13 July, 2008 4:41:45 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] journeyman > > > > journeyman > > A man who served his apprenticeship in a > trade and worked as a fully qualified > > employee. The term originated in the > regulations of the medieval trade guilds; > > it derives from the French journée... > > Found on http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/site/ > > > > sue > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 2042 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Have you considered adding "postems" to > "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , > > giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make > > contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" >events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your >contact details? Other researchers will then be >able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >[email protected] >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to >[email protected] with >the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. Any problems, please contact the List Admin: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message