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    1. Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption
    2. Sheryl Kemper
    3. I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name. Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00

    07/13/2009 04:50:43
    1. Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption
    2. Roz Jones
    3. This is one born 1879, Birmingham on the 1881 census (looks like the family moved around a bit!):   http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp   Walter A. MOORE Household     Male       Other Information:     Birth Year <1879>      Birthplace Birmingham, Warwick, England      Age 2      Occupation       Marital Status       Head of Household Samuel J. MOORE     Relation Son      Disability       Source Information:     Dwelling 30 Well Street     Census Place Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England      Family History Library Film 1341528     Public Records Office Reference RG11     Piece / Folio 2196 / 129     Page Number 109 If you go into family search, and do a search just on 1881 census for Walter Moore, born 1879, +/- 2 years, in Birmingham, you'll get three up.   Roz --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> wrote: From: Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 6:50 PM I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name.  Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon   ----- Original Message -----   From: Nivard Ovington   To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com   Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM   Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption   Hi Sheryl   Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that   it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork   If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been   something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would   most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived   No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate,   if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would   not count on it under the circumstances   I take it you have checked the 1881 census ?   Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)   > Hello,   >   > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in   > Canada in 1902.  A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson   > and adopted by a German family named Moore.   >   > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879.  There is   > a   > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33).  Is there   > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says?  I want   > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth   > certificate.   >   > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption?   >   > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family   > story is that his parents stayed in England.   >   > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it   > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age?   >   > Thank you,   >   > Sheryl Kemper   _____________________________________________    _____________________________________________   Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/   Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/13/2009 03:06:32
    1. Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption
    2. Sheryl Kemper
    3. Thanks, yes, I'm trying to find additional information to help me determine which one he might be. -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roz Jones Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:07 PM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption This is one born 1879, Birmingham on the 1881 census (looks like the family moved around a bit!):   http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ ancestorsearchresults.asp   Walter A. MOORE Household     Male       Other Information:     Birth Year <1879>      Birthplace Birmingham, Warwick, England      Age 2      Occupation       Marital Status       Head of Household Samuel J. MOORE     Relation Son      Disability       Source Information:     Dwelling 30 Well Street     Census Place Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England      Family History Library Film 1341528     Public Records Office Reference RG11     Piece / Folio 2196 / 129     Page Number 109 If you go into family search, and do a search just on 1881 census for Walter Moore, born 1879, +/- 2 years, in Birmingham, you'll get three up.   Roz --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> wrote: From: Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 6:50 PM I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name.  Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon   ----- Original Message -----   From: Nivard Ovington   To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com   Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM   Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption   Hi Sheryl   Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that   it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork   If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been   something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would   most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived   No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate,   if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would   not count on it under the circumstances   I take it you have checked the 1881 census ?   Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)   > Hello,   >   > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in   > Canada in 1902.  A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson   > and adopted by a German family named Moore.   >   > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879.  There is   > a   > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33).  Is there   > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says?  I want   > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth   > certificate.   >   > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption?   >   > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family   > story is that his parents stayed in England.   >   > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it   > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age?   >   > Thank you,   >   > Sheryl Kemper   _____________________________________________    _____________________________________________   Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/   Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com   -------------------------------   To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: 07/13/09 17:57:00

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