In a message dated 20/11/2009 20:24:55 GMT Standard Time, john@jlb2005.plus.com writes: My paternal grandmother was born in Garbett Street in the Summer Hill area (parish of Ladywood), Birmingham, in 1875. Hi John, Thank you for replying I spent some time looking at the map. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html