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    1. [B'ham] William Charles MORECOCK / MOORECOCK
    2. Mary Legarth
    3. I now have the Death Certificate for William Charles MORECOCK, Death & Burial Registered as MOORECOCK, in March 1944. William , a Gun Maker, emigrated to New Zealand in 1904, as MORECOCK, I think that he landed in Wellington, but need to confirm that. He certainly shows in Electoral Rolls mid & late 1930' s , in Wellington, trawling through the rolls for some years will be the next challenge. Certificate informant was the Undertaker.. However, somewhere, maybe his Hospital admission, he has the following details ; Age at Death , 74 yrs, Father was Alfred Moorecock a Gunmaker, , first & maiden name of Mother , not known. William Born in London, , England, in New Zealand about 40 years. married at age 21 yrs to Minnie Maud Birch, . At his death there was no Widow or living children. We know from information sent to me, that the Father of William was Alfred MORECOCK , Mother, Mary A .. William & Minnie had 2 daughters in 1901, in Birmingham, Doris May age 4 , & Leah, age 2 yrs. Free BDM shows that they may have 2 deceased children, William & Minnie, by 1901 . But, what happened to Doris May & Leah ? Should anyone have information about the family of William I would be pleased to hear from you. I can find no record of a Death , or Marriage in New Zealand, for his daughters, or a death of his wife, Minnie. I had wondered if they followed after William landed in N.Z., but it seems not. My Gt Grandfather John MOORCOCK, ( born Surrey 1847, emigrated 1874, ) had left New Zealand, ( & his wife & family ) to return to England, probably 1902, / 1904. ( he then married bigamously , in Monmouthshire, emigrating again, this time to Queensland , Australia. Is anyone researching this family , or has anyone further ideas about them , I would be so pleased to hear from you. Mary New Zealand.

    05/28/2009 12:08:06
    1. Re: [B'ham] [WAR] William Charles MORECOCK / MOORECOCK
    2. Gus Tysoe
    3. Hello Mary, The information you've shared here seems very vague and at - at best - second or third hand :-( While not doubting for one moment that the information on the death certificate was supplied "to the best of the Informant's knowledge", that knowledge has to be considered questionable, and each piece needs to be verified. Probably the best place to start is with the reported marriage - "a" William Charles MORECOCK and a Minnie Maud BIRCH share the same marriage reference number of1891 Dec Q, Aston, 6d 484. The certificate should give his age, occupation, and his father's name and occupation at the time. The 1891 Census reveals *2* William MORECOCKs, both born in London, living in the same street in Birmingham, and born 1867+/2 - and the same two can be found in the 1901, from which it's reasonable to accept that yours is the younger one.. 1891 Census - RG12/2392/122/126 2, back of 51 Princip Street, Birmingham Alfred MORECOCK, Head, M, 50, M, Gun Maker Finisher, LDN, Whitechapel Mary A MORECOCK, Wife, M, 49, F, -, LDN, Bow William MORECOCK, Son, U, 20, M, Gun Maker Finisher, LDN, Whitechapel [plus 4 younger children, all born Birmingham] The older one - at 1, back of 63 [the Fox & Dog] Princip Street - was married to a Selina, the son of another William, and they had a son, William, 1, who *may* be the death you found as he is not with the family in 1901. The family would seem to have moved to Leeds in Yorkshire around 1896-97. There were 2 marriages of Alfred MORECOCKs in the London area in the 1860s - both of whom *could* have married a Mary Ann :-( 1861 Dec Q, Shoreditch, 1c 280 - Mary Ann FISH 1865 Jun Q, Bethnal Green, 1c 702 - Mary Ann WILSON In view of Alfred stating in the 1891 Census that William was born in Bethnal Green, the latter would seem the more likely of the two. In 1881 Alfred, Mary Ann and the children - including 2 daughters older than William [Eliza, 15, and Elizabeth, 13] - were in Birmingham, recorded as "MOWCOCKs". So it would seem reasonable to take the birth registration of a William Charles MOCOCK in 1870 Jun Q, Bethnal Green, 1c 316 as being yours.... All of which would seem to confirm (and extend) the details given on the Death Certificate - subject, naturally, to obtaining the birth and the 2 marriage certificates. But as for *when* William emigrated - and what became of his wife and children - I can't help... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Legarth" <legarthm@levin.pl.net> To: <WARWICK@rootsweb.com> Cc: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: [WAR] William Charles MORECOCK / MOORECOCK >I now have the Death Certificate for William Charles MORECOCK, Death & > Burial Registered as MOORECOCK, in March 1944. > > > > William , a Gun Maker, emigrated to New Zealand in 1904, as MORECOCK, > I > think that he landed in Wellington, but need to confirm that. > > He certainly shows in Electoral Rolls mid & late 1930' s , in Wellington, > trawling through the rolls for some years will be the next challenge. > > Certificate informant was the Undertaker.. However, somewhere, maybe his > Hospital admission, he has the following details ; Age at Death , 74 > yrs, Father was Alfred Moorecock a Gunmaker, , first & maiden name of > Mother , not known. William Born in London, , England, in New Zealand > about > 40 years. married at age 21 yrs to Minnie Maud Birch, . At his death there > was no Widow or living children. > > > > We know from information sent to me, that the Father of William was Alfred > MORECOCK , Mother, Mary A .. > > William & Minnie had 2 daughters in 1901, in Birmingham, Doris May age > 4 > , & Leah, age 2 yrs. > > Free BDM shows that they may have 2 deceased children, William & Minnie, > by 1901 . > > > > But, what happened to Doris May & Leah ? > > > > Should anyone have information about the family of William I would be > pleased to hear from you. > > > > I can find no record of a Death , or Marriage in New Zealand, for his > daughters, or a death of his wife, Minnie. > > I had wondered if they followed after William landed in N.Z., but it > seems > not. > > > > My Gt Grandfather John MOORCOCK, ( born Surrey 1847, emigrated 1874, ) > had left New Zealand, ( & his wife & family ) to return to England, > probably 1902, / 1904. ( he then married bigamously , in Monmouthshire, > emigrating again, this time to Queensland , Australia. > > > > Is anyone researching this family , or has anyone further ideas about them > , > I would be so pleased to hear from you. > > > > Mary > > New Zealand. > > > > > > > > List archives are at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/WARWICK > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WARWICK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/28/2009 02:36:44