Stephen, I am very interested in the Gumbley family as I have quite a lot of Gumbley's my grandmother's mother in law was Martha Gumbley b 1856. So I have been looking at your query of Charlotte, as I see it there must have been three Charlotte's one married Charles Styles no children two married Edward Morris three children but then there must have been another because if she was born in 1815 then she would have been too old to have the three kids. I think you should get the two marriage cert's to find the fathers. Hope you don't mind me butting in . Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen" <familytree@tinfoil.cotse.net> To: "Marlene Shipman" <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Brickwall: William Gumbley, son of Charlotte,born c1840? > Friday, June 12, 2009, 2:28:46 PM, you wrote: > >> There is a marriage between a CHARLOTTE GUMBLEY & an EDWARD MORRIS Dec Q >> 1854 Birmingham 6d/221. This is confirmed by the IGI as 28 November 1854 >> at >> St Phillips B'ham. > > But my Charlotte Gumbley married Charles Styles in 1852. It would > appear this is a third Charlotte Gumbley. > >> I can find no record of an 1860 marriage on Free BMD for William GUMBLEY >> and >> Charlotte MORRIS but there is an extracted entry on the IGI 3 July 1860 >> at >> St Peter Dale End. > > You mentioned working back from the present day. That's exactly how I > found > William and Charlotte (his wife) to begin with. Going back one more > generation is where I come undone with Charlotte Gumbley (his mother). > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Monday, June 15, 2009, 4:31:00 AM, you wrote: > as I see it there must > have been three Charlotte's That's what I think. > one married Charles Styles Yes > no children I thought they did have children but I haven't got the censuses in front of me to say for sure. > two > married Edward Morris Yes. I can't take credit for finding her; I only discovered her thanks to the replies to this question. > but then there must have been another > because if she was born in 1815 then she would have been too old to have the > three kids. Sorry, I am lost: which three children? There is a third Charlotte, she married William, so there were three Charlotte Gumbleys: William's mother; William's wife Charlotte Gumbley nee Morris, and the third Charlotte Morris nee Gumbley!!!