Jim wrote: > Hi > > I have been using Google but I can't find what I require as I can't seem to > refine my search down enough to get only what I need, and so I thought it > would be best to ask for help :-) > > I am working through some family material that has been sent to me and I am > getting confused with the place names that I already have and the place > names that I have received - mainly the COUNTIES of Warwickshire and > Worchestershire. Could someone please point out where I can find the dates > etc when there were changes in these counties > > Jim & Beverley Payne > 10 Win Place > Richmond > Nelson > NEW ZEALAND > 03 544 2471 > shampayne3@gmail.com > Our web site is located at the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz > Hi Jim, Have you got a life time to read up on the subject? The boundaries kept moving and moving. It depends on the date. To make matters worse, locals sometimes called an area one county, whilst the government said it was another! Then there were Church of England parishes and dioceses, which also changed, important sometimes for pre-1858 probate purposes and finding registers. Then there were census registration districts, which also, for the benefit of the census, included areas from other counties. Try http://www.genuki.org.uk/ the UK and Ireland's county portal. Then try the various county RootsWeb mailing lists. I know Worcestershire has some excellent helpers. Most genealogists work on pre-1974 names, so you won't find things like West Midlands, Avon and Greater Manchester. Good luck -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/

Thanks Mike What I had intended to do was to give each place Warwickshire, England but with a short note pointing out that at various times/dates it was part of another county. (My PAYTON/PEATON/PEYTON families were there by the late 1700S and the MARTIM family probably by the first quarter of the 1800s} Jim Payne NEW ZEALAND shampayne3@gmail.com Our personal web site is at: http://www.shampayne.org.nz Our Genealogy at: http://ourpedigrees.shampayne.org.nz/ The 1929 Murchison Earthquake at: http://murchisonquake.shampayne.org.nz/ Hi Jim, Have you got a life time to read up on the subject? The boundaries kept moving and moving. It depends on the date. To make matters worse, locals sometimes called an area one county, whilst the government said it was another! Then there were Church of England parishes and dioceses, which also changed, important sometimes for pre-1858 probate purposes and finding registers. Then there were census registration districts, which also, for the benefit of the census, included areas from other counties. Try http://www.genuki.org.uk/ the UK and Ireland's county portal. Then try the various county RootsWeb mailing lists. I know Worcestershire has some excellent helpers. Most genealogists work on pre-1974 names, so you won't find things like West Midlands, Avon and Greater Manchester. Good luck -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jin: Much of what you want is on the "Tracing your Ancestors in Warwickshire" pages on the BMSGH site at http://www.bmsgh.org/parish/warw/tyaiw/tyaiwintro.html. Good luck Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" <shampayne3@gmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham (and suburbs) Warwickshire and/orStaffordshire and Worcestershire > Thanks Mike > > What I had intended to do was to give each place Warwickshire, England but > with a short note pointing out that at various times/dates it was part of > another county. > > (My PAYTON/PEATON/PEYTON families were there by the late 1700S and the > MARTIM family probably by the first quarter of the 1800s} > > Jim Payne > NEW ZEALAND > shampayne3@gmail.com > Our personal web site is at: http://www.shampayne.org.nz > Our Genealogy at: http://ourpedigrees.shampayne.org.nz/ > The 1929 Murchison Earthquake at: http://murchisonquake.shampayne.org.nz/ > > Hi Jim, > > Have you got a life time to read up on the subject? The boundaries kept > moving and moving. It depends on the date. To make matters worse, > locals sometimes called an area one county, whilst the government said > it was another! Then there were Church of England parishes and > dioceses, which also changed, important sometimes for pre-1858 probate > purposes and finding registers. Then there were census registration > districts, which also, for the benefit of the census, included areas > from other counties. > > Try http://www.genuki.org.uk/ the UK and Ireland's county portal. Then > try the various county RootsWeb mailing lists. I know Worcestershire > has some excellent helpers. Most genealogists work on pre-1974 names, > so you won't find things like West Midlands, Avon and Greater Manchester. > > Good luck > > -- > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > BromsgroveBMSGH > > The Family History Site for North Worcestershire > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ > > ******************************** > > HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/ > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Paul Thanks Jim Payne NEW ZEALAND shampayne3@gmail.com Our personal web site is at: http://www.shampayne.org.nz Our Genealogy at: http://ourpedigrees.shampayne.org.nz/ The 1929 Murchison Earthquake at: http://murchisonquake.shampayne.org.nz/ -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Paul Prescott Sent: Wednesday, 10 June 2009 8:09 a.m. To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham (and suburbs) Warwickshireand/orStaffordshire and Worcestershire Jin: Much of what you want is on the "Tracing your Ancestors in Warwickshire" pages on the BMSGH site at http://www.bmsgh.org/parish/warw/tyaiw/tyaiwintro.html. Good luck Paul