Thanks for your information. It's really helpful. Is the period of journeyman a set amount of time or until the person has acquired a standard of skill? Would he have received papers stating that he was a master electroplater? Unfortunately I don't know where he apprenticed. Is there some way to find out? A listing perhaps??? That would be really helpful. I was able to find him (and his business) listed in a couple of the Trade directories. Best wishes Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:47 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Electroplating apprenticeship/master In a message dated 14/08/2009 04:17:09 GMT Daylight Time, caroburley@sympatico.ca writes: How long were apprenticeships? What would it take to become a "Master"? As a master could he train others? His son became an electroplater as well. Hi I believe an apprenticeship lasted for seven years. Do you know where he was apprenticed and with which company. When he had completed his Apprenticeship he would then be allowed to work as a qualified man sometime as a journey man, eventually becoming a Master of his craft. Once he had qualified he would then be allowed to train his son who would have to serve an apprentice ship like his father had done. Birmingham was of course the centre for Silver work and this is where my family came from. They eventually had one of the largest well known companies called Elkington & Co. If you want to read his story, look at _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com) and find George Richards Elkington. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carolyn My first thought would be to contact the local history dept *Birmingham Central Library Chamberlain Square Birmingham B3 3HQ * *Tel: (0121) 303 4511 Fax: (0121) 233 4458 Textphone: (0121) 303 4547 e-mail * central.library@birmingham.gov.uk <mailto:central.library@birmingham.gov.uk> in archives Declaration by George Richards Elkington of Birmingham, electro plater, concerning land in Frederick Street sold by the said George Richards Elkington to James Baldwin. Plan. Paper. *MS 3800/78* /31 March 1856 / Licence from the Governors of the Free Grammar School of King Edward VI in Birmingham to George Richards of Birmingham to assign to George Richards Elkington of Birmingham, gilt toy maker, premises and land in Frederick Street, leased by the said Governors to the said George Richards. Paper. *MS 3800/70* /4 December 1829 / Lease for a year from John Lawrence of Birmingham, silversmith, to George Richards Elkington of Birmingham, gilt toy maker, of a parcel of building land in the parish of Birmingham. Parchment. *MS 3800/72* /23 November 1830 / Assignment of lease from George Richards, late of Birmingham, but now of Bartleets Bartlett's Buildings Holborn Holborn Circus, London, gilt toy manufacturer, to George Richards Elkington of Birmingham, gilt toy manufacturer, of a messuage and land in Frederick Street. Rent: £20. 16. 8. Consideration: £1,600. Parchment. *MS 3800/69* /24 June 1829 g.hodge // / These documents are held at Birmingham City Archives <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=143> > Thanks for your information. It's really helpful. Is the period of > journeyman a set amount of time or until the person has acquired a standard > of skill? > Would he have received papers stating that he was a master electroplater? > > Unfortunately I don't know where he apprenticed. Is there some way to find > out? A listing perhaps??? That would be really helpful. > > I was able to find him (and his business) listed in a couple of the Trade > directories. > Best wishes > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > JJupar@aol.com > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 5:47 AM > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Electroplating apprenticeship/master > > > In a message dated 14/08/2009 04:17:09 GMT Daylight Time, > caroburley@sympatico.ca writes: > > How long were apprenticeships? > > What would it take to become a "Master"? As a master could he train > others? > His son became an electroplater as well. > > > Hi > > I believe an apprenticeship lasted for seven years. Do you know where he > was apprenticed and with which company. > > When he had completed his Apprenticeship he would then be allowed to work > as a qualified man sometime as a journey man, eventually becoming a Master > of his craft. > > Once he had qualified he would then be allowed to train his son who would > have to serve an apprentice ship like his father had done. > > Birmingham was of course the centre for Silver work and this is where my > family came from. They eventually had one of the largest well known > companies called Elkington & Co. If you want to read his story, look at > _www.elkingtonfamily.com_ (http://www.elkingtonfamily.com) and find > George > Richards Elkington. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >