Hello list and thank you to everyone who replied to me, especially David and Nivard. I shall probably order the death certificate for Elsie A d 1923 in Kings Norton [I think she may have been Elsie May], but will check first if that covered Aston at the time. [Please forgive my ignorance of the area everyone.] Nivard, you're quite right, I did order via the England and Wales GRO - I looked at Ancestry the other day and couldn't believe what they charge, especially as I live in England. Kind regards Jennie in southern France for the moment and it's very hot. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.