1911 census:   living in Fulham, London.   William Henry Bailey - 37yo Head, Widower - Gas Fitter - born Lozells, Birmingham Horrice Bailey - 10yo Son - born Ladywood, Birmingham Frank Bailey - 8yo Son - born Clerkenwell, London John Bailey - 6yo Son - born Westmister London Winnie Bailey - 4yo Daughter - born Westminster London   Am yet to find the births for any of the other children. I know John/Jack had the middle initial of H   William remarried in 1920, he and is wife had an illegitimate son together in 1919   Roz --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Sue Carpenter <sue@carpenternet.co.uk> wrote: From: Sue Carpenter <sue@carpenternet.co.uk> Subject: Re: [B'ham] marriage look up To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 1:40 PM Hi Roz There is a 1901 entry for a William Bailey with his wife Lizzie and son Horace S aged 6mths old. RG13/2813 Balsall Heath, Kings Norton, Worcestershire. This area is now part of Birmingham There is a birth for a Sidney Horace Bailey 1899 Qtr1 1899 but looks as though he died Qtr2 1900 Could it be that they named their next child Horace Sidney in his memory? And didn’t register him, then later made him older Looking quickly I can't see anything to match them on the 1911 census Happy hunting Sue -----Original Message----- From: Roz Jones [mailto:rhjones19@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 05 June 2009 19:00 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] marriage look up Hi   I'm trying to find the marriage for my great great grandfather, William Henry BAILEY.   I believe he married in birmingham/aston area in the 1890's, becuase their first son, Horace (my great grandfather, who's birth was never registered) was born there in 1898.   Roz       _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roz There is a 1901 entry for a William Bailey with his wife Lizzie and son Horace S aged 6mths old. RG13/2813 Balsall Heath, Kings Norton, Worcestershire. This area is now part of Birmingham There is a birth for a Sidney Horace Bailey 1899 Qtr1 1899 but looks as though he died Qtr2 1900 Could it be that they named their next child Horace Sidney in his memory? And didn’t register him, then later made him older Looking quickly I can't see anything to match them on the 1911 census Happy hunting Sue -----Original Message----- From: Roz Jones [mailto:rhjones19@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: 05 June 2009 19:00 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] marriage look up Hi   I'm trying to find the marriage for my great great grandfather, William Henry BAILEY.   I believe he married in birmingham/aston area in the 1890's, becuase their first son, Horace (my great grandfather, who's birth was never registered) was born there in 1898.   Roz

hi list can anyone look on 1851 census for henry LUDLOW aged abt 12 thomas ludlow age 10 robert LUDLOW AGED ABT 8/9 not sure where they were born ,but should be living in birminghan thanks julie

Hello Folks My family were in this area until 1952 and many of them would have be Baptised/Married/Deaths at St Barnabus Church Ryland Street Ladywood. Does anyone know if I can obtain a CD of this churches records??? Or any records at all? Regards To all Susan researching Taylor/ Watkins/Crump/Wallis/Ballard/Gough/Haydon/Heydon/Nolan/Holloway/Cheshire

Roz, I found two for William Henry Bailey, 1. 1Qu 1893 Aston 6d 367 Possible spouse, Elizabeth Sarah Powell 2. 3Qu B'Ham 6d 288 possible spouse Winifred Lander Cheers Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roz Jones" <rhjones19@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:59 AM Subject: [B'ham] marriage look up Hi I'm trying to find the marriage for my great great grandfather, William Henry BAILEY. I believe he married in birmingham/aston area in the 1890's, becuase their first son, Horace (my great grandfather, who's birth was never registered) was born there in 1898. Roz _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To all those wonderful people who answered my query in regard to Electoral Roll information for women my thanks, Kerry from Queensland, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-warks-birmingham-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 242 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ref: Electoral Rolls (Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter) > 2. Re: Ref: Electoral Rolls (Jemma Lough) > 3. Re: Ref: Electoral Rolls (Nivard Ovington) > 4. Re: Ref: Electoral Rolls (Anne Peat) > 5. Re: Ref: Electoral Rolls (Maurice Sheppard) > 6. Re: Ref: Electoral Rolls (Mike Fisher) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM list administrator, send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM mailing list, send an email > to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. >

Hi   I'm trying to find the marriage for my great great grandfather, William Henry BAILEY.   I believe he married in birmingham/aston area in the 1890's, becuase their first son, Horace (my great grandfather, who's birth was never registered) was born there in 1898.   Roz

just to illustrate the point my local library in Northfield was burnt down in 1914 by the suffragettes, fortunately rebuilt by the time I learned to read and spent many happy hours their in the 1950s. See this link at http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent? CONTENT_ITEM_ID=13077&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=260 Dave Carr Paignton Devon On 5 Jun 2009, at 02:35, AnthonyVMartin@aol.com wrote: In Britain, women were not allowed to vote until 1918 - for women over 30 and not until 1928 for all women over 21. Voting has never been compulsory but most people eligible to vote are listed on the electoral rolls. Anthony Martin Devon England _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Britain, women were not allowed to vote until 1918 - for women over 30 and not until 1928 for all women over 21. Voting has never been compulsory but most people eligible to vote are listed on the electoral rolls. Anthony Martin Devon England

It has never been compulsory for anyone to vote in UK. In the early 1900's only a woman owning land in her own right would have been allowed to vote and they were very few and far between. Some women were granted the vote in 1918 but for most women in UK It was not until 1928 that they were allowed to vote. Chris > > I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia > > _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

Kerry: The early 1900s were the period of the suffragettes, campaigning for "Votes for Women". Women didn't get the vote in the UK until 1918, when those over 30 were allowed to vote. In 1928 this was extended to women over 21 - as for men. ATB Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter" <kab635@tadaust.org.au> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: [B'ham] Ref: Electoral Rolls >I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kerry, Women in the UK did not get the vote until 6th February 1918. Regards, Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter" <kab635@tadaust.org.au> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: [B'ham] Ref: Electoral Rolls >I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. Many thanks in anticipation, Kerry from Queensland, Australia

In parliamentary election women over 30 did not get the vote until 1920, and women over 21 until 1928≥ Women property owners did have a vot ein local elections before this - but they were few and far between! Anne On 4 Jun 2009, at 06:29, Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter wrote: > I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History > site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early > 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia > >

Hi Kerry 1928 is the date of the universal vote for women. Mike in Droitwich Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter wrote: > I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Kerry To the best of my knowledge its never been compulsory for anyone to vote in the UK (unlike Australia where it is I gather) In the UK, until 1918 when women of 30 or over got the full vote there was only very limited voting for women in local elections but not National Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and > found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me > whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. > Many thanks in anticipation, > Kerry from Queensland, Australia

Hi Kerry As far as I understand it, women weren't *allowed* to vote in Britain until February 1918, when the Representation of the People Act gave the vote to women over the age of 30... These links will give you more information: http://www.citizenshipfoundation.org.uk/main/page.php?82 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women's_suffrage_in_the_United_Kingdom I guess that's probably why she doesn't appear on the electoral roll. I'm sure someone with more knowledge will correct me if I've got my facts or interpretation wrong! Jemma Jemma Lough (née Carter) in Cambridgeshire Researching BARNES (Gloucestershire/Oxon/Worcestershire/Warwickshire), CARTER (Foleshill/Coventry), FRANKLIN (Leamington), MANN (Soham), PLUMB (Coventry), SPICER (Haverhill), STANLEY (Stratford), TURNER (Soham/Haverhill) -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mrs. Kerry Anne Barter Sent: 04 June 2009 06:29 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Ref: Electoral Rolls I have just looked at the electoral rolls on the Midlands History site and found my gr,grandfather. As it does not list his wife, can SKS tell me whether or not it was compulsory for women to vote in the early 1900's. Many thanks in anticipation, Kerry from Queensland, Australia _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

thanks to both Ken and Nivard for your helpful suggestions, I suspect it is going to be tricky but I will give it a try. Dave Carr Paignton Devon

Do remember they may be ex directory though so would not show. Also you may do better to go to 192.com and pay for some credits and do an electoral roll search. Hope you are successful Michele On 3 Jun 2009, at 14:26, Margaret Usmar wrote: Hi Aileen Just in case they had moved slightly further afield, I checked my local phone book which covers Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwick, Coventry - sadly, no one of the DURN surname listed. Wish you luck! Margaret On 6/3/09, A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > please would anyone on the list be kind enough to look up telephone > numbers > for birmingham and aston > I am looking for cousins name of DURN > My dad was adopted by his mothers sister, and lost touch with his > uncles > family, > I would really love to find my family, > many thanks in anticipation > aileen durn > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Aileen Just in case they had moved slightly further afield, I checked my local phone book which covers Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwick, Coventry - sadly, no one of the DURN surname listed. Wish you luck! Margaret On 6/3/09, A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > please would anyone on the list be kind enough to look up telephone numbers > for birmingham and aston > I am looking for cousins name of DURN > My dad was adopted by his mothers sister, and lost touch with his uncles > family, > I would really love to find my family, > many thanks in anticipation > aileen durn > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >