Thanks, Bev, Annie's name was Gore and was one of 2 girls. I knew her sister as me "Aunt Lizzie" as she and her family moved to Canada in the early 20's. Reg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Wesson" <rwesson@cogeco.ca> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] [Taylor I know I sound like a broken record, but I have had no new leads on my father, shown on the 1901 Census as "Percy Taylor", adopted son of Walter and Annie Wesson, (my family name) supposedly born in Birmingham, aged 2. There are 25 Percys or Percivals born in Staffs, Wark or Worc between 1897 and 1900, all of which I have eliminated by either having a certificate or found on the Census or in the Death records. I realize that it is a long shot but maybe someone knows of a relative who gave birth to a boy around 1899 and gave up this child for adoption. TIA Reg ---- Original Message ----- From: "chris cole" <chris_sqd@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] [Taylor Sorry to but in. Does anyone have a Lillian Maud or perhaps Maud Lillian TAYLOR? She is my husband's grandmother and we can discover nothing at all about her before her marriage to Herbert Sidney RANSOM. It is claimed that she lived all her life in the Birmingham area. She celebrated her birthday on 25th May each year. We believe she was born around 1895 ish. Any help would be much appreciated. Chris > From: paljude@hotmail.com >> > Susan and Reg > > Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland > Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family > in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. > > Judy > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know I sound like a broken record, but I have had no new leads on my father, shown on the 1901 Census as "Percy Taylor", adopted son of Walter and Annie Wesson, (my family name) supposedly born in Birmingham, aged 2. There are 25 Percys or Percivals born in Staffs, Wark or Worc between 1897 and 1900, all of which I have eliminated by either having a certificate or found on the Census or in the Death records. I realize that it is a long shot but maybe someone knows of a relative who gave birth to a boy around 1899 and gave up this child for adoption. TIA Reg ---- Original Message ----- From: "chris cole" <chris_sqd@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] [Taylor Sorry to but in. Does anyone have a Lillian Maud or perhaps Maud Lillian TAYLOR? She is my husband's grandmother and we can discover nothing at all about her before her marriage to Herbert Sidney RANSOM. It is claimed that she lived all her life in the Birmingham area. She celebrated her birthday on 25th May each year. We believe she was born around 1895 ish. Any help would be much appreciated. Chris > From: paljude@hotmail.com >> > Susan and Reg > > Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. > > Judy > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris Plenty of Taylors but not Lillian Maud and no Ransoms either sorry Happy hunting Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris cole" <chris_sqd@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] [Taylor Sorry to but in. Does anyone have a Lillian Maud or perhaps Maud Lillian TAYLOR? She is my husband's grandmother and we can discover nothing at all about her before her marriage to Herbert Sidney RANSOM. It is claimed that she lived all her life in the Birmingham area. She celebrated her birthday on 25th May each year. We believe she was born around 1895 ish. Any help would be much appreciated. Chris > From: paljude@hotmail.com >> > Susan and Reg > > Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland > Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family > in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. > > Judy > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Chris what was her father's name and her address from the marriage certificate Mike in Droitwich chris cole wrote: > Sorry to but in. > Does anyone have a Lillian Maud or perhaps Maud Lillian TAYLOR? She is my husband's grandmother and we can discover nothing at all about her before her marriage to Herbert Sidney RANSOM. It is claimed that she lived all her life in the Birmingham area. She celebrated her birthday on 25th May each year. We believe she was born around 1895 ish. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Chris > > >> From: paljude@hotmail.com >> >> Susan and Reg >> >> Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. >> >> Judy >> >> > _________________________________________________________________ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/ > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well it was worth a try. It might have been a relative on Walter's side....or a neighbour....or a friend........or no connection! but it would make it a tad easier if there was one. Bev At 03:15 PM 09/06/2009, you wrote: >Thanks, Bev, Annie's name was Gore and was one of 2 girls. I knew her >sister as me "Aunt Lizzie" as she and her family moved to Canada in the >early 20's. >Reg

Just a thought Reg, what is Annie's maiden name. I wonder if perhaps a sister or a cousin had a baby out of wedlock and Walter and Annie adopted him. Bev BC Canada At 02:07 PM 09/06/2009, you wrote: >I know I sound like a broken record, but I have had no new leads on >my father, shown on the 1901 Census as "Percy Taylor", adopted son >of Walter and Annie Wesson, (my family name) supposedly born in >Birmingham, aged 2. >There are 25 Percys or Percivals born in Staffs, Wark or Worc >between 1897 and 1900, all of which I have eliminated by either >having a certificate or found on the Census or in the Death records. >I realize that it is a long shot but maybe someone knows of a >relative who gave birth to a boy around 1899 and gave up this child >for adoption. >TIA >Reg

Sorry to but in. Does anyone have a Lillian Maud or perhaps Maud Lillian TAYLOR? She is my husband's grandmother and we can discover nothing at all about her before her marriage to Herbert Sidney RANSOM. It is claimed that she lived all her life in the Birmingham area. She celebrated her birthday on 25th May each year. We believe she was born around 1895 ish. Any help would be much appreciated. Chris > From: paljude@hotmail.com >> > Susan and Reg > > Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. > > Judy > _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

Jim wrote: > Hi > > I have been using Google but I can't find what I require as I can't seem to > refine my search down enough to get only what I need, and so I thought it > would be best to ask for help :-) > > I am working through some family material that has been sent to me and I am > getting confused with the place names that I already have and the place > names that I have received - mainly the COUNTIES of Warwickshire and > Worchestershire. Could someone please point out where I can find the dates > etc when there were changes in these counties > > Jim & Beverley Payne > 10 Win Place > Richmond > Nelson > NEW ZEALAND > 03 544 2471 > shampayne3@gmail.com > Our web site is located at the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz > Hi Jim, Have you got a life time to read up on the subject? The boundaries kept moving and moving. It depends on the date. To make matters worse, locals sometimes called an area one county, whilst the government said it was another! Then there were Church of England parishes and dioceses, which also changed, important sometimes for pre-1858 probate purposes and finding registers. Then there were census registration districts, which also, for the benefit of the census, included areas from other counties. Try http://www.genuki.org.uk/ the UK and Ireland's county portal. Then try the various county RootsWeb mailing lists. I know Worcestershire has some excellent helpers. Most genealogists work on pre-1974 names, so you won't find things like West Midlands, Avon and Greater Manchester. Good luck -- Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman BromsgroveBMSGH The Family History Site for North Worcestershire http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ ******************************** HANDS research site: http://yourhands.awardspace.com/

Hi I have been using Google but I can't find what I require as I can't seem to refine my search down enough to get only what I need, and so I thought it would be best to ask for help :-) I am working through some family material that has been sent to me and I am getting confused with the place names that I already have and the place names that I have received - mainly the COUNTIES of Warwickshire and Worchestershire. Could someone please point out where I can find the dates etc when there were changes in these counties Jim & Beverley Payne 10 Win Place Richmond Nelson NEW ZEALAND 03 544 2471 shampayne3@gmail.com Our web site is located at the following URL: http://www.shampayne.org.nz

Susan and Reg Do you have any connection to the Taylor family who lived at 22 Ryland Place, off Broad Street? I have Sarah Ann E (Lizzie) Taylor and her family in my tree. Father was Frederick and mother, Sarah. Judy > From: rwesson@cogeco.ca > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 21:00:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: [B'ham] St Barnabus, Ryland St Ladywood > > Susan, I am not sure if any one answered you on this question, but a lot of > the records are available at the Birmingham Central Library. > On another matter, I see you are researching Taylors. My father was adopted, > which I found out about when the 1901 Census was published with his family > name of Taylor. In what part of Birmingham was your family situated about > 1900? My grandfather was born and raised in Harborne and was listed as > living on Dymoke St in 1890 and in Wolverhampton in 1901. > I am only fishing right now as I have got nowhere in the past 3 years. > Thanks Reg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 5:16 AM > Subject: [B'ham] St Barnabus, Ryland St Ladywood > > > > Hello Folks > > My family were in this area until 1952 and many of them would have be > > Baptised/Married/Deaths at St Barnabus Church Ryland Street Ladywood. Does > > anyone know if I can obtain a CD of this churches records??? Or any > > records at all? > > Regards To all > > Susan > > researching > > Taylor/ > > Watkins/Crump/Wallis/Ballard/Gough/Haydon/Heydon/Nolan/Holloway/Cheshire > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

Susan, I am not sure if any one answered you on this question, but a lot of the records are available at the Birmingham Central Library. On another matter, I see you are researching Taylors. My father was adopted, which I found out about when the 1901 Census was published with his family name of Taylor. In what part of Birmingham was your family situated about 1900? My grandfather was born and raised in Harborne and was listed as living on Dymoke St in 1890 and in Wolverhampton in 1901. I am only fishing right now as I have got nowhere in the past 3 years. Thanks Reg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 5:16 AM Subject: [B'ham] St Barnabus, Ryland St Ladywood > Hello Folks > My family were in this area until 1952 and many of them would have be > Baptised/Married/Deaths at St Barnabus Church Ryland Street Ladywood. Does > anyone know if I can obtain a CD of this churches records??? Or any > records at all? > Regards To all > Susan > researching > Taylor/ > Watkins/Crump/Wallis/Ballard/Gough/Haydon/Heydon/Nolan/Holloway/Cheshire > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

----- Original Message ----- From: "sandra todd" <Sandra.Bev@talktalk.net> > how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? > Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on > Ancestry? Sandra Take a look at http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/freecens/1841/1149_html.zip All the houses are shown as (what could be a default value of) no 1 which tallies with Nivard's comment about individual house numbers not being recorded. -- David

Paul Prescott wrote: > > Or, even faster, use the Warwickshire Ancestors index on Pickard's website. > Just Google "1841, Legge St" to take you right there. Alternatively, bearing in mind that FreeCEN claims to have 100% coverage for Warwickshire in 1841, just go to the search page [1] and enter "legge*" as the street and Warwickshire as the census county. There are 483 hits, so you might want to enter some names, etc. to narrow the search a bit... [1] http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl -- Andy

Sandra: Or, even faster, use the Warwickshire Ancestors index on Pickard's website. Just Google "1841, Legge St" to take you right there. Regards Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Prescott" <paul@toranean.demon.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Legge Street > Sandra: > > The short cut way is to find Legge Street in a Directory at some time as > close as possible to 1841 (but inevitably a few years away). Then, select > someone living in Legge Street with as distinctive a name as possible, and > search for them in an 1841 census name index, such as Ancestry. With any > luck, this will take you to Legge Street in the census. > > Good luck > > Paul > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sandra todd" <Sandra.Bev@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:35 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Legge Street > > >> Hi all, >> how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? >> Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on >> Ancestry? >> Regards >> Sandra >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message >> Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.142). >> http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Sandra: The short cut way is to find Legge Street in a Directory at some time as close as possible to 1841 (but inevitably a few years away). Then, select someone living in Legge Street with as distinctive a name as possible, and search for them in an 1841 census name index, such as Ancestry. With any luck, this will take you to Legge Street in the census. Good luck Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "sandra todd" <Sandra.Bev@talktalk.net> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [B'ham] Legge Street > Hi all, > how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? > Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on > Ancestry? > Regards > Sandra > > No virus found in this outgoing message > Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.142). > http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sandra This may help 1841 http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Category:1841_census_registration_districts 1851 http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Category:1851_census_registration_districts From http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Home_page Do remember that many places in 1841 were enumerated at best with Street or Road names but more often than not no numbers were recorded You could also try period directories http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/ Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi all, > how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? > Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on > Ancestry? > Regards > Sandra

I WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT SO Sandra, but if you let me have the details of who you are looking for, will have a look for you later.. Sandra... -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sandra todd Sent: 08 June 2009 15:35 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Legge Street Hi all, how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on Ancestry? Regards Sandra No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.142). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.56/2161 - Release Date: 06/07/09 17:53:00

Hi all, how would I find who lived on Legge Street Birmingham during the 1840s? Is there a way of shortcutting to this address on the 1841 census on Ancestry? Regards Sandra No virus found in this outgoing message Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (5.0.1.1 - 10.100.142). http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/

Hi I did an address search at http://www.findmypast.com there are two Legge Streets, one in Aston and the other in Birmingham. I have subscription, I'll look for you. What name are you looking for? Best wishes Jill Nanaimo, BC

Think this is them ( L often mis-transcribed as S! ) 1851 England Census about Henry Sudlow Name: Henry Sudlow Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Lodger Son (Lodger's Son) Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 10 Court Milk Street Occupation: Filer Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 78 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Marsh 58 widow, wire worker Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England Mary Sudlow 33 widow, wire worker Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England Henry Sudlow 12 Thomas Sudlow 10 Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England occupation: pin header William Sudlow 8 Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England Robert Sudlow 6 Where born: Birmingm, Warwickshire, England Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2053; Folio: 688; Page: 21 On 6 Jun 2009, at 14:03, julie insull wrote: > hi list > can anyone look on 1851 census for > henry LUDLOW aged abt 12 > thomas ludlow age 10 > robert LUDLOW AGED ABT 8/9 > not sure where they were born ,but should be living in birminghan > thanks > julie > >