I am seeking Lucy BARTLETT born c.1835 Birmingham (age 25 1861 census, 36 in 1871) She married James HALE 1856 Aston juxta Birmingham. James, Lucy and 5 children emigrated to New Zealand in 1872 - William Henry b.1857 Helenor b.c.1858 Charles b.1860 Fred b.1865 Thomas b.c.1867 Marriage cert gives father as Thomas Bartlett, Brick maker. Death cert ( 1920) gives father as James Bartlett; mother Unknown. I have not been able to find Lucy the 1841 or 1851 census or confirm her parents. Any help would be appreciated. Perhaps someone is missing Lucy after 1872? Victoria Christchurch, NZ

Aileen, go to google and put in,"Warley Salop Worcester" and it comes up with quite a bit about the time and area,. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "A durn" <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 PM Subject: [B'ham] any connections please ? Dwelling: Birch Road Beech Lanes Census Place: Warley Salop, Worcester, England Has anyone on the list come across this address in the early 1800's please? any help gratefully received aileen durn _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need some assistance deciphering information found on the 1911 Census. 1) William ANDREWS (my GGF) and his daughter, Mary Frances MEREDITH were living in Aston, Warwickshire at No. 5 Chapel House St.? Diritesne?? What is the actual name of the area? I'm sure "Diritesne" is not correct. Also, both were "school caretakers". Would anyone know what school they might have been working at? 2) Another daughter, Elizabeth MUTLOW, was living with her family at 48 Haybury? Rd., King's Heath, Birmingham. Again, could someone please clarify the street name? Thank you for any assistance. Sincerely, Kay Andrews Pittsburgh, PA USA

I agree, Dave Carr Thanks Lesley, I've done that now. Passing it on. Marj Lesley Ü -----Original Message----- From From another listee....only the messenger Hi all A government e-petition to " Allow full and open access to registers of Birth, Marriage and Death from 1837 to 1908" has amazingly only got 5500 signatures. Hard to believe the family history fraternity haven't mobilised themselves much better. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/OpenBMDrecords/ Anyone who hasn't yet signed up should do so before 22 July when it expires.

Hi, just type in Australian Dictionary of Biography....on line edition. Henry Baldwin info. You Henry has quite a bit of information there. Robyn Shaw, Toowoomba. At 06:33 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and >one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was >transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name >was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe >he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My >question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for >researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest >any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I >would be very grateful for any suggestions > >Thanks in advance >Jan >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: >06/26/09 18:00:00

Hi tried NSW BMD Index and kids, father henry baldwin and no mother and kids just baldwin last name. he seemed to have a tribe. Robyn. At 06:33 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and >one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was >transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name >was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe >he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My >question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for >researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest >any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I >would be very grateful for any suggestions > >Thanks in advance >Jan >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: >06/26/09 18:00:00

Jan, just had a look on NSW State Records...Henry Baldwin is there in claim a convict came on Barrington. Think he is there 1841 census too. Did you try for his marriage or anything after he arrived. Robyn. At 06:33 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and >one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was >transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name >was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe >he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My >question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for >researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest >any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I >would be very grateful for any suggestions > >Thanks in advance >Jan >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: >06/26/09 18:00:00

Jan, just had a look on NSW State Records...Henry Baldwin is there in claim a convict came on Barrington. Think he is there 1841 census too. Did you try for his marriage or anything after he arrived. Robyn. At 06:33 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and >one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was >transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name >was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe >he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My >question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for >researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest >any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I >would be very grateful for any suggestions > >Thanks in advance >Jan >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: >06/26/09 18:00:00

Hi, Jan go to NSW State Records and do a name search. Should be successful. OR to to National ARchives, England and do the same. OR just do a google search for his name....e.g. Henry Baldwin, 'Barrington', NSW or Henry Barrington, NSW Or go to Ancestry Com and do a search in electoral rolls. See how you go with State Records NSW first. Robyn, Toowoomba. Oz. At 06:33 PM 6/27/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and >one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was >transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name >was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe >he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My >question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for >researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest >any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I >would be very grateful for any suggestions > >Thanks in advance >Jan >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: >06/26/09 18:00:00

Jan wrote: I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and?one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was?transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name?was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe?he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My?question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for?researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest?any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I?would be very grateful for any suggestions? Hi Jan, Babette Smith (Australian author) has done a great amount of research and writted books on the subject of people transported to Australia.? Her email is: babettesmith4@gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

Hello List I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I would be very grateful for any suggestions Thanks in advance Jan

Hi Jan try http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corporate/pages.nsf/Links/A98FD46D59E20E4F8025725D00318058 for a start off , if the link does not work put calendars of prisoners Warwickshire into Google you could also try the Birmingham History Forum http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/ where there has been some discussion on the matter. Mike Jan wrote: > Hello List > > I am running a family history workshop with a U3A group in Australia and > one of the participants has a convict ancestor from Warwick who was > transported here as a convict with the third fleet in 1791. His name > was Henry Baldwin, he was transported on the BARRINGTON and we believe > he was tried at the Warwick Assizes and sentenced to 7 years in NSW. My > question is can anyone tell me if there are any online resources for > researching the historic court records in Warwick and can anyone suggest > any other resources for gathering further information about this man. I > would be very grateful for any suggestions > > Thanks in advance > Jan > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thank you for the photo's of the church, we visited in June but were unable to go inside. I can add some of these to the photo's I took of the outside. Margaret Guest ----- Original Message ----- From: <eng-warks-birmingham-request@rootsweb.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:00 AM Subject: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM Digest, Vol 4, Issue 266 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _____________________________________________ > > Have you considered adding "postems" to "your" events on > www.freebmd.org.uk , giving your contact details? Other researchers will > then be able to make contact. Click on the info button to add your postem. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Aston Juxta (David Fisher) > 2. Re: Aston Juxta (Douglas Hawkes) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM list administrator, send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM mailing list, send an email > to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2204 - Release Date: 06/26/09 18:00:00

Photos and some MIs now published at http://brummages.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html Also memorial plaques re WW1, nearly all names readable. More to follow. Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst

Thank you David, It's wonderful to see photos of the church my gggGrandparents were married in in 1810. The minister was Robert James Spencer of whom I have learned much on this website. Two of my ggGrandfather's brothers were also married there. You were most helpful in the past sending me photos of the buildings were these folks lived, Doug. -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > Photos and some MIs now published at > http://brummages.blogspot.com/2009_03_01_archive.html > Also memorial plaques re WW1, nearly all names readable. More to follow. > > Best wishes, > David Fisher. > "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" > -- > Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com > > For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dwelling:    Birch Road Beech Lanes     Census Place:    Warley Salop, Worcester, England Has anyone on the list come across this address in the early 1800's please? any help gratefully received aileen durn

PREECE, HARRIET.  According to census returns, she was born in Ohio, USA in about 1858 to Henry & Mary Ann Preece (n. Warwick) of Birmingham (?) England.  Harriet married Henry James in 1877 in Birmingham and had 7 children there.  I have been unable to get any further information on Harriet’s birth.  Any help would be appreciated ________________________________________________________________________ AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today.

My very Irish Boyles crossed the ditch and lived & worked in Ayrshire before emigrating to New Zealand where they too wore the kilt. Apparently Boyles went to Ireland from Scotland a century before (1700s) because of their stonemasonry skills. I think our ancestors travelled more widely than we appreciate! Cheers Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen" <familytree@tinfoil.cotse.net> To: "kbibb" <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Brickwall: William Gumbley, son of Charlotte,born c1840? > Thursday, June 18, 2009, 2:22:41 AM, you wrote: > >> According to a friend who is a direct decendent of Gumbley says that >> where >> her name originated from Market Harborough & Ireland the name is spelt >> Gumley. > > Hello again, > > To answer your earlier question: > Charles and Charlotte Styles (nee Gumbley) had two children, Caroline > b.1853 and Richard b.1854. > > Are you referring to Matt Gumbley? His web site was mentioned on this > list in the past. I have dropped him e-mails a couple of times, but > never received any replies. His web site mentions the Market > Harborough link. The problem is all the Gumbleys (six generations) > that I have found are in Birmingham, yet the family boasted Scottish > connections and wore the kilts to prove it! > > I wonder whether hey were Irish kilts rather than Scottish ones? But > why were they so adamant they were Scots in that case? Or could the > link be maternal (even so, all the wives appear to have been > "Brummies")? > > The mystery continues... > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: <JJupar@aol.com> > How close are Erdington and Handsworth to Selly Oak. Hi Judy Erdington is in the NE inner suburbs of Birmingham and is approx 7 miles from Selly Oak which is in the SW inner suburbs. Handsworth (quite a big area) is about 4 miles West(ish) of Erdington and is maybe 4 miles N of Selly Oak. I also searched for Woodbrooke House and Quakers and found the Woodbrooke Quaker Study Centre. This is 3 miles south of Selly Oak. Whether the Centre has relocated south or always been at this location I have no idea. Google Earth or Multimap will give you more info Hope this helps -- David

Hi Judy, George Elkington Married Eliza Dolphin 17 SEP 1849 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England Sorry if I sent you off on a wild goose chase. Chris ---------------------------------------- > From: JJupar@aol.com > Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:14:09 -0400 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Erdington 1850 > > > In a message dated 19/06/2009 13:11:06 GMT Daylight Time, > astonian@blueyonder.co.uk writes: > > On the IGI web site. > > Marriage :-- 17 September 1849, St Martins Church Birmingham Warwick > shire. > > Ann Tubey = John Harris. > > So Ann did not marry George Elkington. > > > Hi > > No I couldn't see that. What I have done is just Sent for a marriage > cert. for a George Elkington who married 'somebody' a nd see what comes up as > I cannot place him in my records. > > JUDY ELKINGTON > [N. Derbyshire, England] > > www.elkingtonfamily.com > ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com > www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live, you can organise, edit, and share your photos. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/