Hi I started looking but your second paragraph re Roy Simmington does not square!! where does the name come from? a second marriage? john ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken & Barbara Gerrand To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:18 AM Subject: [B'ham] Andrew Gerrand The following message was sent 15th July 2009 but has not appeared on the list and so is being resent. Greetings from New Zealand. I am a newcomer to this list and am seeking living relatives of Andrew Gerrand , my first cousin 3 times removed. I am endeavouring to document the descendants of my four x great grandparents William Gerrand and Jane Coulthart. (To date these number 3000) Three of Andrews siblings died early from various causes. The remaining six siblings with their parents emigrated to Canada. I have documented this family in Canada and now wish to complete Andrew's family. Andrew moved to Birmingham sometime in 1871 or 1872. He married Margaret Stuart in Birmingham in 1872 and they had 8 children. Ann Augusta (also known as Annie T) b 1873, Margaret Janet (Maggie) b 1874, David Stuart b 1876, Andrew Roy Stuart b 1878, Janet Hyslop b 1880, Mary Stewart b 1884, Agnes Laurie b 1887 and Isabella Grace (Grace) b 1893. Andrew Roy Stewart Gerrand married Elizabeth Dendle about 1910 and had five children, Barbara E b1910 d 1913, Margaret V b 1912, Dorothy M b1916, Kenneth Roy Simmington b 1921 d 2005, and Beryl b 1928. Of these children I have ascertained that Kenneth Roy Simmington Gerrand married Betty Doreen Henson in 1953 and they had at least one son Andrew b 1957. Mary Stewart Gerrand married Francis R Banks in the 4th quarter of 1913 in West Bromwich. Their children were Rosemary S Banks born in the June quarter 1915 and Francis Banks born in the 4th quarter 1923, both in Solihull. Andrew senior for many years was in the drapery trade. In 1881 the family were living at 184 King Edwards Road, Birmingham. I shall be pleased to hear from anyone on the list who is related to any of the above or who could put me in touch with any descendants. Thanking you in advance. Ken Gerrand Mt Maunganui 3116 New Zealand NZSG #18121 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Good Morning David, What an amazing archive you have posted. Keep up the good work, perhaps you can help me, I am looking for information, photos, leads, pointers, HELP in any form to trace anything to do with Stills Hotel, 32 Bristol Street, Birmingham. Arthur STILL bought 32 Bristol Street from Samual Altman around 1917/18 it was then as far as i know a Fish Shop?? and over the years it developed into a Stills Hotel. There daughter Irene ( May have been adopted) went to St Johns School , as far as i know it was a boarding school that also took day students, but not sure about this,looking for location, photos etc. At some stage in the 1930s Arthur and his wife Muriel ( PALMER) split and went there different ways Muriel married Edward Hindle and moved to Trowbridge, in Wiltshire where i understand they had a pie business. Arthur we lose trace of. Can you or any members of the list help me once again with the above. Terry Rowan On Sunday, 26 July, 2009, at 08:09PM, "David Fisher" <uk.dave@gmail.com> wrote: >Tower and north aisle of Aston Juxta Church completed.. photos, inscriptions >and translations.Might as well post something to list, nobody else seems to >be <g> > >Best wishes, > David Fisher. >"I intend to live forever... so far so good!" >-- > >Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com > >For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Excellent work, David! I hope you're going to put the link on BHF as well. Regards, Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Fisher" <uk.dave@gmail.com> To: "ENG-WARKS-BRUM post to list" <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: [B'ham] Aston Juxta > Tower and north aisle of Aston Juxta Church completed.. photos, > inscriptions > and translations.Might as well post something to list, nobody else seems > to > be <g> > > Best wishes, > David Fisher. > "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" > -- > > Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com > > For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Tower and north aisle of Aston Juxta Church completed.. photos, inscriptions and translations.Might as well post something to list, nobody else seems to be <g> Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst
Hi Terry,You seem to be right. Last one was about Boaters on 15th but your message got through onto the list ok. Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst 2009/7/25 Terry Rowan <summitdps@me.com> > NO postings recived since 15/07/09??? > Why di i need to re-subscribe > Terry Rowan > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
NO postings recived since 15/07/09??? Why di i need to re-subscribe Terry Rowan
Thanks to both of you for the help, which I've been following up. Much appreciated. Angela
hI jAN, HOW DID YOU GO SO FAR...ANY LUCK? rOBYN. At 10:52 PM 7/13/2009, you wrote: >Hello List > >A couple of weeks back I wrote to the list asking for help with the >Warwickshire Court records. I want to thank all who replied to me, >especially Robyn. I have had some problems with my computer and my >original note of thanks was returned to me, not sure how this happened, >but once again my grateful thanks and I hope it goes through this time. > >Regards >Jan Haggart >_____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > >Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2237 - Release Date: >07/14/09 05:56:00
Hello List A couple of weeks back I wrote to the list asking for help with the Warwickshire Court records. I want to thank all who replied to me, especially Robyn. I have had some problems with my computer and my original note of thanks was returned to me, not sure how this happened, but once again my grateful thanks and I hope it goes through this time. Regards Jan Haggart
Thanks, yes, I'm trying to find additional information to help me determine which one he might be. -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roz Jones Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:07 PM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption This is one born 1879, Birmingham on the 1881 census (looks like the family moved around a bit!): http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ ancestorsearchresults.asp Walter A. MOORE Household Male Other Information: Birth Year <1879> Birthplace Birmingham, Warwick, England Age 2 Occupation Marital Status Head of Household Samuel J. MOORE Relation Son Disability Source Information: Dwelling 30 Well Street Census Place Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England Family History Library Film 1341528 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2196 / 129 Page Number 109 If you go into family search, and do a search just on 1881 census for Walter Moore, born 1879, +/- 2 years, in Birmingham, you'll get three up. Roz --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> wrote: From: Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 6:50 PM I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name. Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: 07/13/09 17:57:00
This is one born 1879, Birmingham on the 1881 census (looks like the family moved around a bit!): http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp Walter A. MOORE Household Male Other Information: Birth Year <1879> Birthplace Birmingham, Warwick, England Age 2 Occupation Marital Status Head of Household Samuel J. MOORE Relation Son Disability Source Information: Dwelling 30 Well Street Census Place Plymouth St Andrew, Devon, England Family History Library Film 1341528 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2196 / 129 Page Number 109 If you go into family search, and do a search just on 1881 census for Walter Moore, born 1879, +/- 2 years, in Birmingham, you'll get three up. Roz --- On Mon, 13/7/09, Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> wrote: From: Sheryl Kemper <skemper@toledotel.com> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 13 July, 2009, 6:50 PM I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name. Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper
Name: MOORE Given Name: Walter Age: 4 Sex: M Ship: Circassian Year of Arrival: 1883 Departure Port: Liverpool Departure Date: 07 June 1883 Arrival Port: Quebec Arrival Date: 18 June 1883 Party: Middlemore, Birmingham Destination: London, Ontario Comments: Party of 125 children Source: Library and Archives Canada/Bibliotheque et Archives Canada Reference: RG76 C 1 a Microfilm: C-4532 Type of Record: Passenger Lists/Listes de passagers -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Sheryl Kemper Sent: July 13, 2009 13:09 To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson and adopted by a German family named Moore. I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is a Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth certificate. Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family story is that his parents stayed in England. Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? Thank you, Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sheryl, There is a Walter MOORE on the website for British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa The age would be right for your Walter. Many children were sent from the Middlemore Home in Birmingham to Canada including my grandfather, Thomas WALTERS. http://www.bifhsgo.ca/special_projects/home_children/Middlemore-Index/M-Index.htm MOORE Walter 4 1883 08 00 Circassian 1883 06 07 Ontario Hope this is your great grandfather. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheryl Kemper" <skemper@toledotel.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I have been looking but Walter Moore is a fairly common name. Thanks, Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Richardson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:41 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hello, If he went to Canada from an English port or indeed any port, he would be on the manifest and these are on line ( google) My father 'legged it' to Canada in 1929 aged 15. I found his name on the Ships Lists quite easily.He was kicked out when they found his true age! John Eaton Socon ----- Original Message ----- From: Nivard Ovington To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00
Thanks, I'll keep this in mind. He was living in Stratford, Ontario when married. I thought he may have been at Annie MacPherson's home in Stratford when he arrived. I will be sending paperwork to Barnardos to see if I can confirm it. Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dawn Matheson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:32 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Sheryl, There is a Walter MOORE on the website for British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa The age would be right for your Walter. Many children were sent from the Middlemore Home in Birmingham to Canada including my grandfather, Thomas WALTERS. http://www.bifhsgo.ca/special_projects/home_children/Middlemore-Index/M-Inde x.htm MOORE Walter 4 1883 08 00 Circassian 1883 06 07 Ontario Hope this is your great grandfather. Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheryl Kemper" <skemper@toledotel.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:08 PM Subject: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00
Yes I have checked the 1881 census. But without knowing more info I have no way of knowing if I'm looking at the right people. Thanks, I didn't know if birth info could be looked up. I guess I will have to go ahead and order the birth certificate. Thanks for your help! Sheryl -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:33 AM To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Walter Simpson/Moore Birth and Adoption Hi Sheryl Unfortunately official adoption only started in England in 1927, before that it was a private affair with very little likelihood of generating paperwork If there was a possibility of inheritance problems later there may have been something drawn up but as that would have been a private paper you would most likely be aware of its existence if it had survived No one can look at the details on a birth without obtaining the certificate, if he were baptised and you know where, there may be more detail but I would not count on it under the circumstances I take it you have checked the 1881 census ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello, > > We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in > Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson > and adopted by a German family named Moore. > > I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is > a > Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there > someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want > to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth > certificate. > > Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? > > A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family > story is that his parents stayed in England. > > Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it > happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? > > Thank you, > > Sheryl Kemper _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00
Hello, We know very little about my great-grandfather before he was married in Canada in 1902. A family story has it that he was born as Walter Simpson and adopted by a German family named Moore. I believe he was born in Birmingham, possibly on June 16, 1879. There is a Walter Simpson in the BMD Index (Jul/Aug/Sep volume 6d page 33). Is there someone who could look up that entry and let me know what it says? I want to be reasonable sure it is my Walter before requesting a birth certificate. Is there any way of finding out about his adoption? A Canadian census indicates he immigrated to Canada in 1882 but the family story is that his parents stayed in England. Can someone tell me where to start looking for information about how it happened that he was sent to Canada by himself at such an early age? Thank you, Sheryl Kemper
I received your meesage via list ok. But the last message I recieved on the list was 5 days ago on the subject of Boatmen. Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Pictures of FISHERs (Brum), CONGREAVEs (Notts and Brum) and PUGHs and GATENBYs (Durham, Yorks and Brum) at http://snygyst.blogspot.com Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com For Brummages updates follow http://twitter.com/Snygyst 2009/7/7 Terry Rowan <summitdps@me.com> > Good Day All, > I have not recived any postings since 3rd of this month,is the site down ? > as i look forward each day to sitting down each evening and browsing the > postings on EWB, > > Terry Rowan > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >