Kia Ora Carol Sorry I don't have access to the census apart from the 1881 online! Your info about the number of Baptisms per day means that I have been very lucky indeed to find the ones I have in Brum.! If you are looking at RC they might be in Latin eg My James was Jacobus! His wife Jane became Johanna. Maths was obviously a problem for some families- I have that too and is often relected in Death Certs where the Informant has no idea, especially at a time of stress. One more possibility is that the Marriages took place ina Registry Office which in my experience occuredwith "mixed" marriages. Good Luck Marlene New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > Hi Marlene > > Thanks for all this. Yes, I am aware of the limitations of the IGI, in > fact > I rarely use it but sometimes it's worth a shot. I am lucky enough to > live > near Birmingham, so I have looked at the microfilms of the registers I > quoted. The population was becoming huge at that time, with only a few > churches to serve it, and to look through even one year's worth of > baptisms > took hours. There were several baptisms taking place every day in St > Philip's and St Martin's as I remember. > > As far as James and Eliza's ages go, his is consistent throughout the > censuses, giving a birth date of 1805, but on the death certificate dated > 1873 his age is given as 73, giving a birth year of 1800. I have looked > within that date range and a bit to either side. Eliza is more difficult: > 1851, aged ?38 (or 35, enumerator's mark through the number) b. Roscommon > Ireland; 1861, aged 38, b. Birmingham; 1871, aged 54, b. Birmingham; 1881; > aged 75, widow living with son James, b. Sheffield. On her death > certificate (1885) her age is given as 77. I am pretty sure that she is > the > same person throughout as the children were all the same and the residence > was too. > > I had more or less assumed that James was their eldest son as the > tradition > seems to have been to use either James or William for sons' names. Having > said that James senior would have been 44 when James jnr. was born in > 1844, > which seems quite old to me. From the censuses they had only two other > children - William, b 1847 and Caroline b 1852. I have not seen any > evidence of baptisms so far. I suppose it is possible that they had other > children in Birmingham who did not travel to Wales with them, or died. > > I don't know about their religion. I hope to look at the Roman Catholic > registers in Birmingham before too long, and maybe they will provide a > clue. > Certainly by the time they were in Wales, their local church was CofE, and > their children were eventually buried in that graveyard (and it looks as > if > the burial was certified by someone other than the local vicar or curate, > meaning that the family could have been non-conformist by then). > > Best wishes > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marlene > Shipman > Sent: 01 October 2009 12:54 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > > > Hi Carol > Several matters to watch here! First the IGI is far from complete. Second > beware of Members Submissions Look for extracted records and you > should then get the film from the Mormon Family centre near to you and > check > > the entry. > Thirdly as Eliza changes her place of birth have you checked that the ages > correspond? It is possible that James married more than once to an Eliza! > I > note that in the 1881 census Eliza Miller widow is living with her son > James and is aged 75 thus born c1806. In 1851 you say she was 35 thus born > 1816 > > Did James Junior have any siblings? Have you tracked all of them to > determine commmon factors such as occupations, locations, forenames being > used for example > It may be necessary to purchase the birth certificates of other children > to > > determine the mother's surname. > You don't mention whether the family was Cof E or RC or non conformist? > Not > all records are available to the Mormon Church. > Good Luck > Marlene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:46 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > > >>I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, >>was born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to >>trace his birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. >> >> He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, >> North Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is >> Eliza, aged 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. >> >> The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they >> would have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 >> as his son James was born in Rhosymedre then. >> >> In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a >> tin >> plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza >> variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and >> Sheffield. James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin >> plate worker and umbrella maker. >> >>>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I >>>think >> he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish >> registers for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's >> (Aston), St Paul's in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall >> Street for likely baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I >> would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about which other >> churches might have been in existence in the locality at the time - or >> any ideas at all really about how to find out a bit more. I haven't >> looked for their marriage yet, other than >> on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. >> >> Best wishes >> Carol >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol Several matters to watch here! First the IGI is far from complete. Second beware of Members Submissions Look for extracted records and you should then get the film from the Mormon Family centre near to you and check the entry. Thirdly as Eliza changes her place of birth have you checked that the ages correspond? It is possible that James married more than once to an Eliza! I note that in the 1881 census Eliza Miller widow is living with her son James and is aged 75 thus born c1806. In 1851 you say she was 35 thus born 1816 Did James Junior have any siblings? Have you tracked all of them to determine commmon factors such as occupations, locations, forenames being used for example It may be necessary to purchase the birth certificates of other children to determine the mother's surname. You don't mention whether the family was Cof E or RC or non conformist? Not all records are available to the Mormon Church. Good Luck Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley >I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, was > born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to trace his > birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. > > He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, North > Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is Eliza, aged > 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. > > The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they would > have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as his son > James was born in Rhosymedre then. > > In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a tin > plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza > variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and Sheffield. > James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate worker and > umbrella maker. > >>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I >>think > he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish registers > for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St Paul's > in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely > baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely > grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have been in > existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really about > how > to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, other > than > on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. > > Best wishes > Carol > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes it's on my to do list. Many thanks for the contact information. Carol -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Carr Sent: 01 October 2009 11:38 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley Have you considered the Catholic option, especially with the Roscommon connection. Although you might find them in IGI the actual records are held at St Chad's. Contact the Rev. John Sharp, Archivist, Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 4EU. Tel: 0121 230 6252. Dave Carr Devon On 1 Oct 2009, at 10:08, Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: Hello Carol, A number of my relatives born in the area around this time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure whether this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such on Hugh Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. Best of luck, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James > Miller, was > born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to > trace his > birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. > > He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, > North > Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is > Eliza, aged > 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. > > The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they > would > have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as > his son > James was born in Rhosymedre then. > > In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described > as a tin > plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza > variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and > Sheffield. > James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate > worker and > umbrella maker. > >> From his age on the various censuses, and on his death >> certificate, I think > he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish > registers > for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St > Paul's > in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely > baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely > grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have > been in > existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really > about how > to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, > other than > on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. > > Best wishes > Carol > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- > BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Carol, A number of my relatives born in the area around this time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure whether this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such on Hugh Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. Best of luck, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley >I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, was > born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to trace his > birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. > > He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, North > Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is Eliza, aged > 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. > > The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they would > have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as his son > James was born in Rhosymedre then. > > In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a tin > plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza > variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and Sheffield. > James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate worker and > umbrella maker. > >>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I think > he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish registers > for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St Paul's > in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely > baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely > grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have been in > existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really about how > to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, other than > on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. > > Best wishes > Carol > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Marlene Thanks for all this. Yes, I am aware of the limitations of the IGI, in fact I rarely use it but sometimes it's worth a shot. I am lucky enough to live near Birmingham, so I have looked at the microfilms of the registers I quoted. The population was becoming huge at that time, with only a few churches to serve it, and to look through even one year's worth of baptisms took hours. There were several baptisms taking place every day in St Philip's and St Martin's as I remember. As far as James and Eliza's ages go, his is consistent throughout the censuses, giving a birth date of 1805, but on the death certificate dated 1873 his age is given as 73, giving a birth year of 1800. I have looked within that date range and a bit to either side. Eliza is more difficult: 1851, aged ?38 (or 35, enumerator's mark through the number) b. Roscommon Ireland; 1861, aged 38, b. Birmingham; 1871, aged 54, b. Birmingham; 1881; aged 75, widow living with son James, b. Sheffield. On her death certificate (1885) her age is given as 77. I am pretty sure that she is the same person throughout as the children were all the same and the residence was too. I had more or less assumed that James was their eldest son as the tradition seems to have been to use either James or William for sons' names. Having said that James senior would have been 44 when James jnr. was born in 1844, which seems quite old to me. From the censuses they had only two other children - William, b 1847 and Caroline b 1852. I have not seen any evidence of baptisms so far. I suppose it is possible that they had other children in Birmingham who did not travel to Wales with them, or died. I don't know about their religion. I hope to look at the Roman Catholic registers in Birmingham before too long, and maybe they will provide a clue. Certainly by the time they were in Wales, their local church was CofE, and their children were eventually buried in that graveyard (and it looks as if the burial was certified by someone other than the local vicar or curate, meaning that the family could have been non-conformist by then). Best wishes Carol -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Shipman Sent: 01 October 2009 12:54 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley Hi Carol Several matters to watch here! First the IGI is far from complete. Second beware of Members Submissions Look for extracted records and you should then get the film from the Mormon Family centre near to you and check the entry. Thirdly as Eliza changes her place of birth have you checked that the ages correspond? It is possible that James married more than once to an Eliza! I note that in the 1881 census Eliza Miller widow is living with her son James and is aged 75 thus born c1806. In 1851 you say she was 35 thus born 1816 Did James Junior have any siblings? Have you tracked all of them to determine commmon factors such as occupations, locations, forenames being used for example It may be necessary to purchase the birth certificates of other children to determine the mother's surname. You don't mention whether the family was Cof E or RC or non conformist? Not all records are available to the Mormon Church. Good Luck Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley >I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, >was born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to >trace his birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. > > He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, > North Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is > Eliza, aged 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. > > The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they > would have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 > as his son James was born in Rhosymedre then. > > In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a tin > plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza > variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and > Sheffield. James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin > plate worker and umbrella maker. > >>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I >>think > he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish > registers for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's > (Aston), St Paul's in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall > Street for likely baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I > would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about which other > churches might have been in existence in the locality at the time - or > any ideas at all really about how to find out a bit more. I haven't > looked for their marriage yet, other than > on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. > > Best wishes > Carol > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Brian and Jan Yes, I had seen some Standleys in the registers of St Peter and St Paul, which as Brian rightly says is the church in Aston, but not Eliza. It is possible that she was born in Ireland though, so it maybe that finding a marriage might be more likely. Best wishes Carol -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BRIAN BLACKWELL Sent: 01 October 2009 10:48 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley Aston juxta Birmingham was not a name for a church, it means the place. Aston (now part of Birmingham) was a community next (juxta) to Birmingham. The church was probably Sts Peter and Paul. Best Wishes Brian Sechelt. BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > Hello Carol, > A number of my relatives born in the area around > this > time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure whether > this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such on Hugh > Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. > > Best of luck, > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > > >>I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James >>Miller, >>was >> born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to trace his >> birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. >> >> He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, >> North Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is >> Eliza, aged 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. >> >> The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they >> would have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 >> as his son James was born in Rhosymedre then. >> >> In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as >> a >> tin >> plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza >> variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and >> Sheffield. >> James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate worker >> and >> umbrella maker. >> >>>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I >>>think >> he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish >> registers for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's >> (Aston), St Paul's in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall >> Street for likely baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I >> would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about which other >> churches might have been in >> existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really about >> how >> to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, other >> than >> on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. >> >> Best wishes >> Carol >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you considered the Catholic option, especially with the Roscommon connection. Although you might find them in IGI the actual records are held at St Chad's. Contact the Rev. John Sharp, Archivist, Cathedral House, St Chad's Queensway, Birmingham B4 4EU. Tel: 0121 230 6252. Dave Carr Devon On 1 Oct 2009, at 10:08, Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: Hello Carol, A number of my relatives born in the area around this time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure whether this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such on Hugh Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. Best of luck, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James > Miller, was > born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to > trace his > birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. > > He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, > North > Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is > Eliza, aged > 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. > > The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they > would > have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as > his son > James was born in Rhosymedre then. > > In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described > as a tin > plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza > variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and > Sheffield. > James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate > worker and > umbrella maker. > >> From his age on the various censuses, and on his death >> certificate, I think > he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish > registers > for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St > Paul's > in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely > baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely > grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have > been in > existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really > about how > to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, > other than > on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. > > Best wishes > Carol > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- > BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this family search site http://maps.familysearch.org/#search choose parish from the drop down list and then type Aston, you will see Aston juxta on a list of Astons and it give you a visual reference. Dave Carr Devon On 1 Oct 2009, at 10:48, BRIAN BLACKWELL wrote: Aston juxta Birmingham was not a name for a church, it means the place. Aston (now part of Birmingham) was a community next (juxta) to Birmingham. The church was probably Sts Peter and Paul. Best Wishes Brian Sechelt. BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > Hello Carol, > A number of my relatives born in the area > around this > time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure > whether > this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such > on Hugh > Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. > > Best of luck, > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > > >> I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James >> Miller, >> was >> born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to >> trace his >> birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. >> >> He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near >> Ruabon, North >> Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is Eliza, >> aged >> 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. >> >> The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when >> they would >> have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as >> his >> son >> James was born in Rhosymedre then. >> >> In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described >> as a >> tin >> plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza >> variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and >> Sheffield. >> James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate >> worker >> and >> umbrella maker. >> >>> From his age on the various censuses, and on his death >>> certificate, I >>> think >> he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish >> registers >> for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St >> Paul's >> in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely >> baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely >> grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have >> been >> in >> existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really >> about >> how >> to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, >> other >> than >> on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. >> >> Best wishes >> Carol >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, was born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to trace his birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, North Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is Eliza, aged 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they would have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as his son James was born in Rhosymedre then. In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a tin plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and Sheffield. James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate worker and umbrella maker. >From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I think he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish registers for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St Paul's in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have been in existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really about how to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, other than on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. Best wishes Carol

Aston juxta Birmingham was not a name for a church, it means the place. Aston (now part of Birmingham) was a community next (juxta) to Birmingham. The church was probably Sts Peter and Paul. Best Wishes Brian Sechelt. BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil & Jan Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > Hello Carol, > A number of my relatives born in the area around this > time were baptised/married at Aston juxta Birmingham. I'm not sure whether > this is the only name this church is known by but appears as such on Hugh > Wallis's Batch Numbers website and on the IGI. > > Best of luck, > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol Thomas" <carolthomas2@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Miller/Standley > > >>I have recently discovered that my greatgreatgrandfather, James Miller, >>was >> born in Birmingham, and am hoping for some advice about how to trace his >> birth/baptism and possibly that of his wife, Eliza Standley. >> >> He appears on the 1851 census for Rhosymedre, which is near Ruabon, North >> Wales, and is a tinman, aged 46, born Birmingham. His wife is Eliza, >> aged >> 35, born Roscommon, Ireland. >> >> The 1841 census for this area is missing, so I don't know when they would >> have moved to Wales, except that it had to be before April 1844 as his >> son >> James was born in Rhosymedre then. >> >> In subsequent censuses, up to his death in 1875, he was described as a >> tin >> plate worker, and on his death certificate a master tin man. Eliza >> variously gives her place of birth as Roscommon, Birmingham and >> Sheffield. >> James is listed in a couple of trade directories as a tin plate worker >> and >> umbrella maker. >> >>>From his age on the various censuses, and on his death certificate, I >>>think >> he was born between 1800 and 1805. I have looked at the parish registers >> for St Philip's, St Martin's and St Peter and St Paul's (Aston), St >> Paul's >> in the Jewellery quarter, and St Mary's, Whittall Street for likely >> baptisms, but couldn't find any Millers at all. I would be extremely >> grateful for any suggestions about which other churches might have been >> in >> existence in the locality at the time - or any ideas at all really about >> how >> to find out a bit more. I haven't looked for their marriage yet, other >> than >> on the IGI which didn't yield anything obvious. >> >> Best wishes >> Carol >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Could someone please tell me if and where the Birmingham Small Arms may have kept old personnel records, and if so how I can find information from them. My G Grandfather William Livingstone was the Proof Master and Curator of the Rifle Range for them from 1879 until his death in 1895. Thank you, Chris

My late FIL worked there from a lad of 14 yrs old until he retired ,as did my husband when he first left school age 14. But he only stayed there a short time . Jean Lees > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:29:46 +0100 > From: mjflists@yahoo.co.uk > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] BIRMINGHAM SMALL ARMS > > Now The Small Arms Inn ,Armoury Rd was kept by one of my relatives in > the first half of the 20th century. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > > Chris Elsegood wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Could someone please tell me if and where the Birmingham Small Arms may have kept old personnel records, and if so how I can find information from them. > > > > My G Grandfather William Livingstone was the Proof Master and Curator of the Rifle Range for them from 1879 until his death in 1895. > > > > Thank you, > > Chris > > _____________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________ > > > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get the best of MSN on your mobile http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/

Now The Small Arms Inn ,Armoury Rd was kept by one of my relatives in the first half of the 20th century. Mike Fisher in Droitwich Chris Elsegood wrote: > Hi, > > Could someone please tell me if and where the Birmingham Small Arms may have kept old personnel records, and if so how I can find information from them. > > My G Grandfather William Livingstone was the Proof Master and Curator of the Rifle Range for them from 1879 until his death in 1895. > > Thank you, > Chris > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Chris Try http://www.archiveshub.ac.uk/news/0404bsa.html And http://dscalm.warwick.ac.uk/DServe/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve2.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=%28%28Level=%27Collection%27%29AND%28RefNo=%27BSA%27%29%29 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi, > > Could someone please tell me if and where the Birmingham Small Arms may > have kept old personnel records, and if so how I can find information from > them. > > My G Grandfather William Livingstone was the Proof Master and Curator of > the Rifle Range for them from 1879 until his death in 1895. > > Thank you, > Chris

In a message dated 29/09/2009 13:57:12 GMT Daylight Time, chris.else@bigpond.com writes: Could someone please tell me if and where the Birmingham Small Arms may have kept old personnel records, and if so how I can find information from them. Hi, Try this site for Birmingham Records. There is an e-mail address for them. _http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/archives_ (http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/archives) JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Susan, I have found on the site of BMSGH (B'Ham & Midland Society of Genealogy and Heraldy) advertised St Barnabas Ryland St Bap 1860-1954 Marr 1862-1954 try them, but I don't know if you have to join. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records > Thank you for that Ken > I already have already tried but St Barnabus, Ladywood is not listed in > the > LDS library catalogue. > I appreciate your advice many thanks' > Regards Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kbibb > Sent: 26 September 2009 02:17 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records > > Susan, > Why don't you try your local LDS (morman) library they would be able to > get > the films for you to view. > > Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 AM > Subject: [B'ham] Church Records > > >> Hello Folks >> >> Does anyone one have any records from St Barnabus Church, Ryland Street >> Ladywood ,Birmingham ? >> >> And St Thomas , Bath Row Birmingham. >> >> I know records are held at Birmingham Library. But it quite a trip for me >> to >> get there. Please can any one help? >> >> Regards >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> researching >> Taylor/Holloway/Nolan/Wallis/Haydon/Gough/Crump/Watkins/Savory/ >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Judy I have and St Barnabus, Ladywood is not in their library catalogue. Thank you away. Regards Susan -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JJupar@aol.com Sent: 26 September 2009 10:28 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records In a message dated 26/09/2009 02:18:10 GMT Daylight Time, kbibb@bkb.net.au writes: Susan, Why don't you try your local LDS (morman) library they would be able to get the films for you to view. Hi, If you don't know where there is one go to _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) and if you scroll down you will find a place to enter to get the address. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank You Ken I will have a look Regards Susan -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kbibb Sent: 26 September 2009 10:00 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records Susan, I have found on the site of BMSGH (B'Ham & Midland Society of Genealogy and Heraldy) advertised St Barnabas Ryland St Bap 1860-1954 Marr 1862-1954 try them, but I don't know if you have to join. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records > Thank you for that Ken > I already have already tried but St Barnabus, Ladywood is not listed in > the > LDS library catalogue. > I appreciate your advice many thanks' > Regards Susan > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kbibb > Sent: 26 September 2009 02:17 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records > > Susan, > Why don't you try your local LDS (morman) library they would be able to > get > the films for you to view. > > Ken B > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 AM > Subject: [B'ham] Church Records > > >> Hello Folks >> >> Does anyone one have any records from St Barnabus Church, Ryland Street >> Ladywood ,Birmingham ? >> >> And St Thomas , Bath Row Birmingham. >> >> I know records are held at Birmingham Library. But it quite a trip for me >> to >> get there. Please can any one help? >> >> Regards >> >> Susan >> >> >> >> researching >> Taylor/Holloway/Nolan/Wallis/Haydon/Gough/Crump/Watkins/Savory/ >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Susan, Why don't you try your local LDS (morman) library they would be able to get the films for you to view. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: [B'ham] Church Records > Hello Folks > > Does anyone one have any records from St Barnabus Church, Ryland Street > Ladywood ,Birmingham ? > > And St Thomas , Bath Row Birmingham. > > I know records are held at Birmingham Library. But it quite a trip for me > to > get there. Please can any one help? > > Regards > > Susan > > > > researching > Taylor/Holloway/Nolan/Wallis/Haydon/Gough/Crump/Watkins/Savory/ > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for that Ken I already have already tried but St Barnabus, Ladywood is not listed in the LDS library catalogue. I appreciate your advice many thanks' Regards Susan -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kbibb Sent: 26 September 2009 02:17 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Church Records Susan, Why don't you try your local LDS (morman) library they would be able to get the films for you to view. Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Palmer" <susanpalmer123@tiscali.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 AM Subject: [B'ham] Church Records > Hello Folks > > Does anyone one have any records from St Barnabus Church, Ryland Street > Ladywood ,Birmingham ? > > And St Thomas , Bath Row Birmingham. > > I know records are held at Birmingham Library. But it quite a trip for me > to > get there. Please can any one help? > > Regards > > Susan > > > > researching > Taylor/Holloway/Nolan/Wallis/Haydon/Gough/Crump/Watkins/Savory/ > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message