Hi List. Could anyone with access to electoral rolls please look up who lived at 11 Harmen Road / Street, Hockley in any year between 1947 and 1951. I am hoping they are Wareham. I shall be very grateful. Thank you. Brian

Hi Aileen, I have the same problem with WETTON, and I was also shocked that the church was burned down. On the website it has a phone number for the vicar so everyone can contact concerning matters of the church etc., unfortunately, since I phoned and got through to the answer service, no one has got back to me. I was very saddened over this as I thought at least I would receive a courtesy call in return ! I have access to a microfiche/film reader if you can trust the postal service. My home address can be sent if you wish to contact me offline. Regards Michael McAllister -------------------------------------------------- From: "A durn" <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:10 PM To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Subject: [B'ham] help please. a shot in the dark !! > > Hello to all, > I am wondering/hoping that some kind souls has the MI's for Erdrington > parish church. > I was shocked to find out that this has been burned down, and at the same > time I reached for my micro fiche to re look at my grandparents grave > stone, > but my reader is broken. > Can anyone on the list please let me know what it says > This is the one > > 10th April 1968 Alice and William WOOD, they have with them their > children and this is what I didnt have the foresight to take note of. > Oh how silly! > Very many thanks > Aileen > > > > > >

If you have no luck on this list, try using a micro-fiche at your library. Failing that.. I have a micro-fiche viewer if you wish to trust the postal services. Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com 2009/11/17 A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> > > Hello to all, > I am wondering/hoping that some kind souls has the MI's for Erdrington > parish church. > I was shocked to find out that this has been burned down, and at the same > time I reached for my micro fiche to re look at my grandparents grave stone, > but my reader is broken. > Can anyone on the list please let me know what it says > This is the one > > 10th April 1968 Alice and William WOOD, they have with them their children > and this is what I didnt have the foresight to take note of. > Oh how silly! > Very many thanks > Aileen > > > > > _____________________________________________ >

Hello to all, I am wondering/hoping that some kind souls has the MI's for Erdrington parish church. I was shocked to find out that this has been burned down, and at the same time I reached for my micro fiche to re look at my grandparents grave stone, but my reader is broken. Can anyone on the list please let me know what it says This is the one 10th April 1968 Alice and William WOOD, they have with them their children and this is what I didnt have the foresight to take note of. Oh how silly! Very many thanks Aileen

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After a lot of research and some help from readers of the local Black Country newspaper I think I have finally found out some details of the children of my cousin Edward who was the only son of my uncle Henry Briton Rose who died in Cannock in 1959. His son Edward married a Catherine McCreech in 1950 and Edward died aged 52 in 1976. I believe that Edward and Catherine (Kathy) had two daughters Christine S. and Ann C. .I think I have located that Christine may have married a John H. Laird in 1976. I am trying to write a family history of my mothers family of ROSE and it would be great if I could find some surviving members of the Rose family. If anyone knows about these two sisters I would be pleased to hear Regards Michael McDonnell Adelaide Australia

Greetings Michael, What are the origins of your ROSE family? I have some with origins in Ilmington, WOR to Bham. Regards, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA www.bittonfamilies.com On 7 Nov 2009, at 00:19, pyd_zac7 wrote: After a lot of research and some help from readers of the local Black Country newspaper I think I have finally found out some details of the children of my cousin Edward who was the only son of my uncle Henry Briton Rose who died in Cannock in 1959. His son Edward married a Catherine McCreech in 1950 and Edward died aged 52 in 1976. I believe that Edward and Catherine (Kathy) had two daughters Christine S. and Ann C. .I think I have located that Christine may have married a John H. Laird in 1976. I am trying to write a family history of my mothers family of ROSE and it would be great if I could find some surviving members of the Rose family. If anyone knows about these two sisters I would be pleased to hear Regards Michael McDonnell Adelaide Australia

Michael have you tried Facebook? It sounds strange but I traced modern day descendants of my great aunt by sending messages to about 20 people with the surname I was looking for in a particular region. Dave Carr Devon (Ex Birmingham) On 7 Nov 2009, at 00:19, pyd_zac7 wrote: After a lot of research and some help from readers of the local Black Country newspaper I think I have finally found out some details of the children of my cousin Edward who was the only son of my uncle Henry Briton Rose who died in Cannock in 1959. His son Edward married a Catherine McCreech in 1950 and Edward died aged 52 in 1976. I believe that Edward and Catherine (Kathy) had two daughters Christine S. and Ann C. .I think I have located that Christine may have married a John H. Laird in 1976. I am trying to write a family history of my mothers family of ROSE and it would be great if I could find some surviving members of the Rose family. If anyone knows about these two sisters I would be pleased to hear Regards Michael McDonnell Adelaide Australia _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List I have rejoined after my last go in 2003 to try to find this elusive couple. A note in my grandmothers' writing says Elizabeth was "probably from Bristol , however queries to that list make it clear that they didn't marry there. So did they marry in Birmingham? Or did they not marry? Edward BRISTOW was baptized in Feckenham, Worcestershire 9 Feb 1766. He was the son of John BRISTOW and Mary CROW. ("My mother Mary Bristow" was mentioned in her son Edward's will as living in Feckenham). I don't know when Edward went to Birmingham, but all his children except the last one, Sarah, who was my ancestor, were baptised at St. Martin's in Birmingham, the first one in in 1793. So if the father Edward married Elizabeth it would probably have been some time before that date. Sometime between 1801 when son William Bristow was baptized in Birmingham, and 1803 when Sarah was born in Liverpool, the family must have moved from Birmingham to Liverpool. It was said, again in a note from my grandmother, that Edward was "a cloth manufacturer in Liverpool, with a contract to supply cloth to the army". Their children were: 1. Rev. Edward BRISTOW baptized 14 Oct 1793 at St. Martin's, Birmingham. He married three times, to Sophia E. MATHER in 1815, Jane BIGG in 1827, and Emma BOURNE. Tragically he was widowed three times, the second wife and their two children all dying within a few days of each other. 2. Thomas Smith BRISTOW baptized 20 May 1796 at St. Martin's. He married Jane Fleming in Liverpool in 1816 and had five children. 3. John BRISTOW born about 1797 in Birmingham. He married (1st) Ann Elizabeth McMORRAN in in 1834 in St. Mark's, Liverpool and had two children. And (2nd) Anne Elizabeth BRENNAN in 1837 in St. Paul's, Liverpool, and had seven children. 4. Elizabeth BRISTOW in 1797 in St. Martin's, Birmingham and didn't marry 5. Mary BRISTOW (known in our family as Aunt Spencer), was baptized 1798 in St. Martin's, Birmingham, and married Edward SPENCER in St. Mary's, Edge Hill. 6. William BRISTOW was baptized in 1802 in St. Martin's, Birmingham. He married twice, (1st) to an unknown lady, one daughter, and (2nd) to a Miss McMORRAN, five children. 7. Sarah BRISTOW was born in 1803 in Liverpool, and she married Rev. Joseph Docker of Westmorland in St. Mary's, Edge Hill, and came to Australia where they left many descendants. Elizabeth BRISTOW the mother of these children, died when Sarah was a young child, and I haven't been able to find a burial for her either. It was as though she didn't exist - at least in official records! Though I do have the copy of a portrait which was sent to Sarah Docker in Australia as a reminder of her late mother. Any assistance with this family would be VERY gratefully received - especially Elizabeth's Smith's ancestors. Best wishes Merilyn Pedrick Aldgate, South Australia 

On the 1841 Census, Thomas Argyle 25, wife Louisa 20 (Corbett-BMD December 1838 Birmingham 16-447), Thomas 2, Mary Ann 8 mos. Hope this helps. Reg Burlington Ont. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristal Fisher" <k.fisher@live.ca> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Thomas Frederick ARGYLE > > Hi BevI do not have the death cert yet. I too live in BC. I have not tried > getting certs yet but I guess that would be my best bet. Which library are > you close to?? I live just outside of Victoria. Thank you for the offer > and I may take you up on it if I can not locate it. Happy Searching. > Kristal Fisher nee Pickard > >> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:55:21 -0700 >> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >> From: dragonscribe@uniserve.com >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Thomas Frederick ARGYLE >> >> Do you have a copy of the death certificate Kristal? I live close to >> a genealogy library in BC and could get you a copy if you need one. >> Bev Allen >> BC Canada >> >> >> >> At 10:40 AM 28/10/2009, you wrote: >> >> >Hi fellow listers. This is my first post here. I am looking for info >> >on Thomas Frederick ARGYLE born abt. 1837 in Birmingham and died >> >March 14 1919 in Victoria, BC, Canada. He was a Royal Engineer who >> >stayed in Canada after he did his time. He became a Lighthouse >> >Keeper at Race Rocks. He married Mary Ellen TUFTS. I would love to >> >know who his parents were and any siblings. He is my husbands great >> >grandfather. I have a possible Father as Thomas ARGYLE and mother >> >Louisa CORBETT of Birmingham. Thanks for reading and Happy Searching. >> >Kristal Fisher nee Pickard >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > CDN College or University student? Get Windows 7 for only $39.99 before > Jan 3! Buy it now! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691636 > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Robin, as with others I also have checked the GRO indexes on findmypast without success. I can confirm that a Bertha Griffiths married a John Jayes in Birmingham, Sept quarter of 1874. Are you sure this is the one? Was Bertha her real name? My grandmother`s first son was given the names William Francis Laurence on his birth certificate, thereafter he was always known as Francis (Marriage and Death Certificates, War records, etc) due, no doubt, to the fact that his father carried the same three forenames. Is Bertha a derivative of another name such as Elizabeth which, I believe, holds the record for the greatest source of derived names - Lizzie, Betty, Beth and so on. I notice that she was a widow in 1911. If she died without re-marriage or with any living relatives then I wonder who would have given the details as to her name, etc when registering her death? Would they have known her full names and other personal details. Did she die in a workhouse or hospital where details may not have been known or written down correctly? Let us know how you get on and if we can be of any help. Bob in Warwickshire -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Carter Sent: 30 October 2009 20:17 To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] suggestions please Hello, I would appreciate any suggestions to find BERTHA JAYS/JAYES ? JEYES  I have found her up to the 1911 census . In 1911 she was  a widow at 124  Somerset  St.  Handsworth..   I cannot find her death after that .  I wondered if she remarried but she was 74 in 1911 , not impossible but not likely I would think.  I have checked death indexes under her married name and her maiden name of   Griffiths.   Is there some other death index than Ancestry , the Mormon site and Free BDM  ?  I would like her death certificate if I could narrow things down . Suggestions please? Robin . Ottawa. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robin I ended up going through the GRO indexes on findmypast quarter by quarter for about 35 years. Still did not find the precise thing I wanted - the death of my g grandfather - but a couple of possibles, a bit misspelt! If you have not done that, maybe you will find her that way using her last married name. You could do the same for a possible marriage, I suppose. And then, Jayes etc - what could J look like? L? A long drawn out S? Maybe even an I, and having seen some of those transcriptions by Indians, that is not impossible either despite the name Iayes seeming very unlikely to me. Dawn (Melbourne Australia) -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robin Carter Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2009 7:17 AM To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] suggestions please Hello, I would appreciate any suggestions to find BERTHA JAYS/JAYES ? JEYES  I have found her up to the 1911 census . In 1911 she was  a widow at 124  Somerset  St.  Handsworth..   I cannot find her death after that .  I wondered if she remarried but she was 74 in 1911 , not impossible but not likely I would think.  I have checked death indexes under her married name and her maiden name of   Griffiths.   Is there some other death index than Ancestry , the Mormon site and Free BDM  ?  I would like her death certificate if I could narrow things down . Suggestions please? Robin . Ottawa. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________ NOD32 4559 (20091030) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com

G'day Robin, I'm fairly sure you can still order the certificate through the GRO giving an estimated year for her death (eg 1912-1932) and specifying who the relatives should be, such as 'widow of So and So" or mother of "such and such". They will only send you a certificate which fits your requirements. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Carter" <robin_carter@rogers.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:17 AM Subject: [B'ham] suggestions please Hello, I would appreciate any suggestions to find BERTHA JAYS/JAYES ? JEYES I have found her up to the 1911 census . In 1911 she was a widow at 124 Somerset St. Handsworth.. I cannot find her death after that . I wondered if she remarried but she was 74 in 1911 , not impossible but not likely I would think. I have checked death indexes under her married name and her maiden name of Griffiths. Is there some other death index than Ancestry , the Mormon site and Free BDM ? I would like her death certificate if I could narrow things down . Suggestions please? Robin . Ottawa. _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I would appreciate any suggestions to find BERTHA JAYS/JAYES ? JEYES  I have found her up to the 1911 census . In 1911 she was  a widow at 124  Somerset  St.  Handsworth..   I cannot find her death after that .  I wondered if she remarried but she was 74 in 1911 , not impossible but not likely I would think.  I have checked death indexes under her married name and her maiden name of   Griffiths.   Is there some other death index than Ancestry , the Mormon site and Free BDM  ?  I would like her death certificate if I could narrow things down . Suggestions please? Robin . Ottawa.

Hi BevI do not have the death cert yet. I too live in BC. I have not tried getting certs yet but I guess that would be my best bet. Which library are you close to?? I live just outside of Victoria. Thank you for the offer and I may take you up on it if I can not locate it. Happy Searching. Kristal Fisher nee Pickard > Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:55:21 -0700 > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > From: dragonscribe@uniserve.com > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Thomas Frederick ARGYLE > > Do you have a copy of the death certificate Kristal? I live close to > a genealogy library in BC and could get you a copy if you need one. > Bev Allen > BC Canada > > > > At 10:40 AM 28/10/2009, you wrote: > > >Hi fellow listers. This is my first post here. I am looking for info > >on Thomas Frederick ARGYLE born abt. 1837 in Birmingham and died > >March 14 1919 in Victoria, BC, Canada. He was a Royal Engineer who > >stayed in Canada after he did his time. He became a Lighthouse > >Keeper at Race Rocks. He married Mary Ellen TUFTS. I would love to > >know who his parents were and any siblings. He is my husbands great > >grandfather. I have a possible Father as Thomas ARGYLE and mother > >Louisa CORBETT of Birmingham. Thanks for reading and Happy Searching. > >Kristal Fisher nee Pickard > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ CDN College or University student? Get Windows 7 for only $39.99 before Jan 3! Buy it now! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691636

Do you have a copy of the death certificate Kristal? I live close to a genealogy library in BC and could get you a copy if you need one. Bev Allen BC Canada At 10:40 AM 28/10/2009, you wrote: >Hi fellow listers. This is my first post here. I am looking for info >on Thomas Frederick ARGYLE born abt. 1837 in Birmingham and died >March 14 1919 in Victoria, BC, Canada. He was a Royal Engineer who >stayed in Canada after he did his time. He became a Lighthouse >Keeper at Race Rocks. He married Mary Ellen TUFTS. I would love to >know who his parents were and any siblings. He is my husbands great >grandfather. I have a possible Father as Thomas ARGYLE and mother >Louisa CORBETT of Birmingham. Thanks for reading and Happy Searching. >Kristal Fisher nee Pickard

In 1851 Thomas (age 32, born Bosworth Leics) and Louise Argyle (age 29) lived in Birmingham with their children Thomas (12), Maria Ann (10), Edward (8), Samuel (4) and James (10 months). All except Thomas Sr were born B'ham. Do you know this is him for sure? Do you want a look-up on the other censuses? Sally in BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristal Fisher" <k.fisher@live.ca> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: [B'ham] Thomas Frederick ARGYLE Hi fellow listers. This is my first post here. I am looking for info on Thomas Frederick ARGYLE born abt. 1837 in Birmingham and died March 14 1919 in Victoria, BC, Canada. He was a Royal Engineer who stayed in Canada after he did his time. He became a Lighthouse Keeper at Race Rocks. He married Mary Ellen TUFTS. I would love to know who his parents were and any siblings. He is my husbands great grandfather. I have a possible Father as Thomas ARGYLE and mother Louisa CORBETT of Birmingham. Thanks for reading and Happy Searching. Kristal Fisher nee Pickard _________________________________________________________________ Save up to 84% on Windows 7 until Jan 3—eligible CDN College & University students only. Hurry—buy it now for $39.99! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691635 _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi fellow listers. This is my first post here. I am looking for info on Thomas Frederick ARGYLE born abt. 1837 in Birmingham and died March 14 1919 in Victoria, BC, Canada. He was a Royal Engineer who stayed in Canada after he did his time. He became a Lighthouse Keeper at Race Rocks. He married Mary Ellen TUFTS. I would love to know who his parents were and any siblings. He is my husbands great grandfather. I have a possible Father as Thomas ARGYLE and mother Louisa CORBETT of Birmingham. Thanks for reading and Happy Searching. Kristal Fisher nee Pickard _________________________________________________________________ Save up to 84% on Windows 7 until Jan 3—eligible CDN College & University students only. Hurry—buy it now for $39.99! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9691635

Hi David You're quite right, sorry, getting my roads in a knot as well as my brains :o) Had an absolutely horrendous week last week at work and got really stressed - doing training and the customer wanting everything on a plate!! They have 2 hopes - none and none! I'll have a look in the library in a couple of weeks to see if there are any photos available if I'm given the numbers. Sorry for the confusion all and I'll go sit in the corner and suck my thumb lol Maggs -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Morgan Sent: 24 October 2009 01:09 To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [B'ham] Looking for Wheeler St. in 1891 Census ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggs" <maggs.gurney@googlemail.com> > there in 1851) but I think there are still existing buildings on Wheeler > Street, Hockley. There are still a lot of buildings in that area that were > standing in 1891/1901. Maggs Assuming we're talking about the same Wheeler Street (i.e. the one running South from Lozells Road) I can't see any buildings on that street older than the late 1960s. I'm interested to know what you are seeing -- David _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message