Good Evening All. My interest in Birmingham and Warwickshire are; Family Names: ALTMAN, STILL(S), PARKER - PALMER, LUFFMAN. JARVIS, STYLES and HIND(I)LE. with any connection to the following address`s: 32 Bristol Street, 37 Georges Avanue / Road (a large redbrick house) and Trees Road, Stirchley. A/ Any photos of the above address`s or can any member point me to a posable source off photos. B/ Electoral Rolls, 1910 to 1960. Any member who has access to the above who would be willing to do look up for the above address, please. C/ School Records for the catchment area for the above address`s where are they held and any help or advise on how to do search of same. i will be greatful for any help with the above Terry

Does anyone have any information on the family of Alfred Jones born c. 1853 son of Susannah Jones in Birmingham. Susannah married George Dabbs in 1857 and then Arthur Buggins in 1876 and died in 1901 in the Aston registration district Alfred can be found in the 1881 census in Bishop Ryder parish in Birmingham using the name Theophilus and is married to Mary, his mother in law, Mary Murphy, is in the house with them. I'm looking to find anything about any of the above after 1881, I have the 1901 census for Arthur Buggins & Susannah. Thanks Peter

Hi Marlene, Good to hear from you, haven't been back to you as my young foster child has been very ill. I certainly did follow up. Young Annie's birth cert doesn't give any more details than I already had. Minnie Rose is not related, it's definitely Mina (name passed down through generations) Still not been able to get the Irish 1901 census, most of it is not on line but hopefully when I do get to see it, Bessie Mina will show up traveling with John and Annie Linehan and the young Mina. I've searched and put messages up on my Ancestry.co.uk and Genes reunited but nothing as yet for the two younger Linehan girls...there's a strong US connection so they may turn up there. I'm in contact with descendants of the Pool family from Warwick and Birmingham but none seem to have known anything about Annie Louise, she last turns up on the UK census 1891 living in a boarding house in Kingston Hull as a musician, Mini aged 4 years is with her. Very odd she married Frederick Dowler 1889 but in 1891 she is back to her surname of Pool as is Mina...I presume shortly after 1891 she met John Linehan and they moved to Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shipman" <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Pool Warwickshire and Birmingham > Jackie I answered your query in full on 1 September 2009. Check back on the > Archives > Did you follow up? > Marlene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie" <jackie005@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:49 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Pool Warwickshire and Birmingham > > >> Annie Louise Pool born 1871 Warwickshire >> Parents Benjamin and Elizabeth.Pool >> >> Annie's death 1914 aged 49 yrs at the home of her sister and brother in >> law Mary and William Griffins 18 Wood St. Ladywood Birmingham. >> >> Annie was a musician. >> >> 1st marriage to Frederick Dowler, one daughter Bessie Mina. >> 2nd marriage John Linehan born 1871 Cork Ireland. >> >> Recently found Annie and John on the Irish 1911 census, shocked to find >> they had 2 daughters, Mina Linehan born 1897 England and Annie Lydia >> Linehan born 1906 Dublin. >> Found Annie's birth registration but cannot find anything for Mina's. >> >> Never heard mention of these 2 daughters before and obviously wondering >> what happened to them and John Linehan after Annie's death. >> Can anyone throw any light on this? >> >> Regards Jackie >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> _____________________________________________ >> >> Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara, My immediate reaction was exactly that.......... but by the time of the 1911 Irish census, Bessie Mina (born 1887 Birmingham) was also living in Ireland and married to Thomas Brennan. They already had 2 children Lydia and Mary, unfortunately they don't show up on the census, probably because they were traveling musicians. It's such a mystery. Your right in thinking that Bessie Mina used her stepfather's name (John Linehan's) she married Co Cavan 1907 in the name of Bessie Mina Linehan, apparently she didn't know that she was the daughter of Frederick Dowler until her mother Annie Louise died. Regards Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Gray" <bjgray8@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Pool Warwickshire and Birmingham Depending on the dates, could Mina Lineham be Bessie Mina Dowler, listed on the census with her stepfathers surname - not an uncommon occurrence. Regards Barbara ________________________________ From: Jackie <jackie005@talktalk.net> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 10:49:51 Subject: [B'ham] Pool Warwickshire and Birmingham Annie Louise Pool born 1871 Warwickshire Parents Benjamin and Elizabeth.Pool Annie's death 1914 aged 49 yrs at the home of her sister and brother in law Mary and William Griffins 18 Wood St. Ladywood Birmingham. Annie was a musician. 1st marriage to Frederick Dowler, one daughter Bessie Mina. 2nd marriage John Linehan born 1871 Cork Ireland. Recently found Annie and John on the Irish 1911 census, shocked to find they had 2 daughters, Mina Linehan born 1897 England and Annie Lydia Linehan born 1906 Dublin. Found Annie's birth registration but cannot find anything for Mina's. Never heard mention of these 2 daughters before and obviously wondering what happened to them and John Linehan after Annie's death. Can anyone throw any light on this? Regards Jackie _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Depending on the dates, could Mina Lineham be Bessie Mina Dowler, listed on the census with her stepfathers surname - not an uncommon occurrence. Regards Barbara   ________________________________ From: Jackie <jackie005@talktalk.net> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 22 November, 2009 10:49:51 Subject: [B'ham] Pool Warwickshire and Birmingham Annie Louise Pool born 1871 Warwickshire Parents Benjamin and Elizabeth.Pool Annie's death 1914 aged 49 yrs  at the home of her sister and brother in law Mary and William Griffins 18 Wood St. Ladywood Birmingham. Annie was a musician. 1st marriage to Frederick Dowler, one daughter Bessie Mina. 2nd marriage John Linehan born 1871 Cork Ireland. Recently found Annie and John on the Irish 1911 census, shocked to find they had 2 daughters, Mina Linehan born 1897 England and Annie Lydia Linehan born 1906 Dublin. Found Annie's birth registration but cannot find anything for Mina's. Never heard mention of these 2 daughters before and obviously wondering what happened to them and John Linehan after Annie's death. Can anyone throw any light on this? Regards Jackie _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Annie Louise Pool born 1871 Warwickshire Parents Benjamin and Elizabeth.Pool Annie's death 1914 aged 49 yrs at the home of her sister and brother in law Mary and William Griffins 18 Wood St. Ladywood Birmingham. Annie was a musician. 1st marriage to Frederick Dowler, one daughter Bessie Mina. 2nd marriage John Linehan born 1871 Cork Ireland. Recently found Annie and John on the Irish 1911 census, shocked to find they had 2 daughters, Mina Linehan born 1897 England and Annie Lydia Linehan born 1906 Dublin. Found Annie's birth registration but cannot find anything for Mina's. Never heard mention of these 2 daughters before and obviously wondering what happened to them and John Linehan after Annie's death. Can anyone throw any light on this? Regards Jackie

Hi List. Thank you George for the Electoral Rolls information. Very much appriciated. That gives me a start on my Birmingham branch. Thank you again. Brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Ward" <george@wardonia.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Electoral Rolls > 1950 ER Herbert, Rose, Victor and Kenneth Wareham. 11 Harmer Street > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane and > Brian > Sent: 21 November 2009 20:55 > To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com > Subject: [B'ham] Electoral Rolls > > > Hi List. > Could anyone with access to electoral rolls please look up who lived at 11 > Harmen Road / Street, Hockley in any year between 1947 and 1951. I am > hoping > they are Wareham. I shall be very grateful. Thank you. Brian > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21 Nov, lesley hampton <lesley.hampton1@btinternet.com> wrote: > So were mine!! At number 89!! oops. It wasn't my great grandparents but their grandparents who lived at 58 in the 1881 Census... oh well the thought's still there, I wonder if it still exists? Small world anyway! Cheers > ________________________________ > From: "famhist@dsl.pipex.com" <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 21 November, 2009 14:48:47 > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Summer Hill, Birmingham > On 21 Nov, lesley hampton <lesley.hampton1@btinternet.com> wrote: > > (Hands up, who else knew that the film 'Cathy Come Home' was partly > > filmed in Prescott Street, Ladywood?!) > Was it indeed! My Wheway great grandparents lived there for the 1891 > Census! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

1950 ER Herbert, Rose, Victor and Kenneth Wareham. 11 Harmer Street -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane and Brian Sent: 21 November 2009 20:55 To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Electoral Rolls Hi List. Could anyone with access to electoral rolls please look up who lived at 11 Harmen Road / Street, Hockley in any year between 1947 and 1951. I am hoping they are Wareham. I shall be very grateful. Thank you. Brian _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List. Could anyone with access to electoral rolls please look up who lived at 11 Harmen Road / Street, Hockley in any year between 1947 and 1951. I am hoping they are Wareham. I shall be very grateful. Thank you. Brian

Dear Judy, Carl Chinn refers to Summer Hill in his book "Our Brum - Volume 2", Birmingham Evening Mail, 1992 (ISBN 0-9534316-0-6). On page 67 he writes about the population density of inner Birmingham: ---------------- The whole of old Brum came to just 2995 acres - and by 1831 there were 142,000 people crowded on to that small space. Yet not all of that land was built up. Most of Brum's folk were packed into the even more limited district east of Monument Road and Icknield Street. Spreading out from the Bull Ring, they were gathered densely into old houses and back-to-backs around Digbeth, Hurst Street, Holloway Head, Newtown Row and the Jewellery Quarter. Beyond Summer Hill and Spring Hill there were few houses, shops and factories. . . . . ---------------- The implication of the last sentence is that even in the early 19th century, Summer Hill and Spring Hill *were* occupied by back-to-back houses, shops and factories. Perhaps early the trades directories would give you a better idea of the occupancy of Summer Hill? Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/ -------------------------------------------------- From: <JJupar@aol.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:36 AM To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: <GENBRIT@rootsweb.com> Subject: [B'ham] Summer Hill, Birmingham Hi Could anyone tell me what kind of a residence would at Summer Hill, Birmingham, in 1820. Was it a posh area at that time. I had a look on Google but it seems to be all country by a lake. Does anyone know where I can find a photograph of houses there. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

So were mine!! At number 89!! ________________________________ From: "famhist@dsl.pipex.com" <famhist@dsl.pipex.com> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 21 November, 2009 14:48:47 Subject: Re: [B'ham] Summer Hill, Birmingham On 21 Nov, lesley hampton <lesley.hampton1@btinternet.com> wrote: > (Hands up, who else knew that the film 'Cathy Come Home' was partly > filmed in Prescott Street, Ladywood?!) Was it indeed! My Wheway great grandparents lived there for the 1891 Census! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 21 Nov, lesley hampton <lesley.hampton1@btinternet.com> wrote: > (Hands up, who else knew that the film 'Cathy Come Home' was partly > filmed in Prescott Street, Ladywood?!) Was it indeed! My Wheway great grandparents lived there for the 1891 Census! -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

Hi My family grew up in the Ladywood area and there's a great website for the area - or Brookfields as it was also known (Ladywood being part of Brookfields) and Summerhill is mentioned on it too. (Ted Rudge does another site on Windsor Green too). Google Brookfields and you'll get the following. When in Brookfields site click on 'Streets' and there's an A-Z of streets with personal memories from people, old photos. (below is the google link you want) Historically Brookfieldswas part of BirminghamHeath, a great expanse of ...BrookfieldsSchool Pitsford Street built in 1877 by the BirminghamSchool ... www.ted.rudge.btinternet.co.uk/id12.htm - Cached - Similar Hope that helps. I could spend hours on this site, brings a lot of history alive to me. Also, I left a message on the site re anyone who had known my family and got replies. (Hands up, who else knew that the film 'Cathy Come Home' was partly filmed in Prescott Street, Ladywood?!) Lesley ________________________________

In a message dated 20/11/2009 20:24:55 GMT Standard Time, john@jlb2005.plus.com writes: My paternal grandmother was born in Garbett Street in the Summer Hill area (parish of Ladywood), Birmingham, in 1875. Hi John, Thank you for replying I spent some time looking at the map. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

In a message dated 21/11/2009 06:08:11 GMT Standard Time, mlou1173@hotmail.com writes: ......Google images has a page of "old Birmingham" photos. I note a photo of the Summer Hill Post Office....which doesn't look particularly posh. I found the page by entering Summer Hill+Birmingham. Hi Mary Lou, I found that but I think it must have been a good class area before vthat as the families living there were quite wealthy. Thanks for you help. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html

Judy Elkington <JJupar@aol.com> wrote: Could anyone tell me what kind of a residence would at Summer Hill, Birmingham, in 1820. Was it a posh area at that time. I had a look on Google but it seems to be all country by a lake. ================== Dear Judy, My paternal grandmother was born in Garbett Street in the Summer Hill area (parish of Ladywood), Birmingham, in 1875. The family had lived there for some time. Summer Hill Rd was part of the main route out of B'ham, starting as Summer Row, then the Parade, then Sand Pits, then Summer Hill Road, then continuing as Spring Hill and then Dudley Rd. Summer Hill Terrace was terrace of houses running parallel to but overlooking 'Sand Pits'. At that time it had a high population density, with rows of workers' houses and lots of small factories and people working at home, on the fringe of the Jewellery Quarter. Google maps shows the area at: http://tinyurl.com/yffnm2u It's undergone rather drastic 20th century slum clearance and urban renewal, so I suspect that very few of the buildings shown on the Google satellite map date back more than 40 years or so. My great grandfather worked as a rule-maker at a toolmaker's factory in Camden Road, close to Summer Hill Road. I believe I have a few pictures of Camden Rd, taken in the early 1980s, before all the old buildings were knocked down. I'll look them out for you. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2005.plus.com John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2005.plus.com/

Very many thanks for replies regarding Erdington MI's I will have to keep on trying to find the information for my family. I have found on the ineternet videos which show the damage done by the fire. I found it to be very sad indeed. Aileen --- On Tue, 17/11/09, A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > From: A durn <rosableu08@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [B'ham] help please. a shot in the dark !! > To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 12:10 > > Hello to all, > I am wondering/hoping that some kind souls has the MI's for > Erdrington parish church. > I was shocked to find out that this has been burned down, > and at the same time I reached for my micro fiche to re look > at my grandparents grave stone, > but my reader is broken. > Can anyone on the list please let me know what it says > This is the one > > 10th April  1968 Alice and William WOOD, they have > with them their children and this is what I didnt have the > foresight to take note of. > Oh how silly! > Very many thanks > Aileen > > >       > > _____________________________________________ > _____________________________________________ > > Research in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Trying to identify the Parish Church for Hooper Street ( opposite Dudley Road Hospital, Birmingham). I hope to find the baptisms for the year 1896. Any help would be most appreciated. Fred

Hi Could anyone tell me what kind of a residence would at Summer Hill, Birmingham, in 1820. Was it a posh area at that time. I had a look on Google but it seems to be all country by a lake. Does anyone know where I can find a photograph of houses there. JUDY ELKINGTON [N. Derbyshire, England] www.elkingtonfamily.com ELKINGTON@rootsweb.com www.one-name.org/profiles/elkington.html