I beleive my horseman/horsman ancestors may of orignated from newbold in worcestershire. My latter 19c lot settled in the birmingham area.

There are BMD records in Ireland (Civil registration from 1864) Unfortunately you need to know in which part of present day Ireland he lived/died since the records are now divided between the Records Office in Belfast for Northern Ireland and Dublin for Eire. Have a look at the TIARA site http://www.tiara.ie/links.html for other links HTH Anne On 7 Nov 2006, at 17:37, genukilists@tinfoil.cotse.net wrote: >> Just had this from Birmingham RO re. Robert: > > > If he had died in Ireland, I assume he would not be in the GRO > indices? What BMD system does Ireland have? Could I look for his death > there? > > Thanks, > Stephen. > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Just had this from Birmingham RO re. Robert: If he had died in Ireland, I assume he would not be in the GRO indices? What BMD system does Ireland have? Could I look for his death there? Thanks, Stephen.

Thanks MARY

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Alan, if you capitalize the 'proper' nouns your mail would be easier to read. Bryan Slim >I beleive my horseman/horsman ancestors may of orignated from >newbold in worcestershire. > My latter 19c lot settled in the birmingham area. >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >message

Most university libraries and a few public libraries subscribe to JSTOR. However, the subscriptions are frequently just for certain subject areas. If no one replies, check out your local public library. Regards, Maurice at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com At 06:27 07/11/06, you wrote: >Thank you all for your recent information about ERASMUS DARWIN & >MARY PARKER. >I have found that MARY PARKER, & JOSEPH DAY were married in October >1782. It says they had 5 children. There is more information >available on a website called jstor.org. Unfortunately I don't have >access to this website, as it is for members only. Does anyone have >access? Can someone get me the information they have about Joseph & >Mary? Pease let me know! > >Thanks!!!! >Karen > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone tell me if there is a house still standing at 21 Prospect Row Coleshill Street? My relatives lived here in the early 1800's. I would pay for a photo! Also, anyone going to the Library that can look-up Joseph DAY, he was a Merchant in the late 1700's in Birmingham, he lived at the above address with his wife Mary PARKER DAY, and their 5 children. If I could get a look-up to confirm their children It would be great, and what kind of Merchant Joseph DAY was. Thanks, Karen

Hello Listers, If you are redsearching Horseman or horsman do you have a Roland Horsman born c1875 in your tree. Would like to know what happened to the Horsman/horseman family. Found them on the 1881 census and 1891 CENSUS. Did Roland Marry? Many thanks, San

> There are a few on the web the best place is the Bham Centrel > libary Thank you. I haven't been there yet but plan a trip to Birmingham to view these and church records, etc. What is it like? > I can only finhim in two directorys You mentioned 1854, which is the second directory? > they have saved one of the slums in nearby Inge St so that you > can see the type of accomadation he would of lived in Is Inge Street near the library or near Hurst Street? Does Hurst Street survive today; which district of Birmingham is/was it in? When you say it has been saved, has it been turned into a tourist attraction or do you mean just that the buildings are still standing and you can walk past? Thanks, Stephen.

Hi Listers, Would someone please be able to look up the 1851 Census for a Hannah WHITE. She was the informant on the death certificate of my Henry FLOWER in 1846 and lived at 263 Bishop Street. She doesn't appear on the 1841 at this address so must have moved there later . I am wondering if she was there in 1851. Henry FLOWER's wife was Ann WHITE so maybe Hannah was a relative. I know that Hannah is a derivative of Ann but there are two different addresses on the death cert. and I have never seen Ann written as Hannah before in my research. I would appreciate any help or suggestions. Diane (Melbourne)

Hi,I want to thank you all so very much for all the info. Thank's again. John David Kenny <dakenny@ozemail.com.au> wrote: John, I looked up the St Mary Handsworth Fiche, which I have and could only she the following Nortons... **William Norton & Sarah Hodgetts** **m. 21 Nov 1808** **Children:** **Elizabeth** **b. 5 November 1809 d. 12 July 1812** **Henry b. 7 July 1811** **George b. 20 February 1813** **Harriett b. 15 January 1815** **William b. 5 January 1817 ** **Charles b. 4 March 1821** **David b. 15 June 1823 d. 4 September 1878** **Ann b. 9 November 1828** **Joseph b. 9 November 1828** **These are other Entries found at St. Mary's ** **Joan Norton d. 23 April 1563** **Ann wife of David Norton** **d. 10 December 1891** **Elsie Mary Norton** **d. 13 February 1896** **Note her parents are Arthur James & Emma Norton** Regards David Ourimbah, NSW, Australia. j norton wrote: >Hi All, > If anyone is going to the Birmingham Central Library I would appreciate it very much if they would be kind enough to carry out a lookup for me.I'm trying to find the parents of James Norton born 1803 or any of his brothers or sisters.I,m not even sure he was born there.I do know that he was married there to a Martha Cashmore on 25 Dec.1824 > Thank you so very much. > John from Alberta > > >--------------------------------- >The best gets better. See why everyone is raving about the All-new Yahoo! Mail. >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos

Could not find the name of the lady i first wrote to. Rang cadbury and asked for archives secretary. Was put through to pensions who seemed to think i was a total nutter and had no idea. I am sure my request some four years ago was to the personnel department. Try this address- Cadbury's Ltd Bournville Lane Bournville Birmingham B30 2LU I guess the letter should be headed to Archives secretary, Personal Dept. Sorry i could not find the person i first wrote to. Best of luck, Jackie

Hi Robert Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I live in Hampshire and "don't get around much anymore" in the words of the song. I will try to contact them by email. Regards Bernard On 06/11/06, Robert Deloyde <bammot12@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Greetings > > Have you tried the Birmingham Central Library they have loads of photos > I say this because the shop was at 21 Cregoe St for about 80 years or so it > disappears sometime in the 1920.s someone must have taken a photo in that > time > > > > Robert Deloyde > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bernard Mantell <bwm1928@googlemail.com> > To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, 6 November, 2006 3:19:59 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Cregoe Street photos > > > I have not seen my message on the site so am trying again. > Bernard > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Bernard Mantell <bwm1928@googlemail.com> > Date: 03-Nov-2006 14:35 > Subject: Cregoe Street photos > To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-D-request@rootsweb.com > > Hi > > I have an ancestor, Charles MANTELL, who ran a chemists shop at No. 22 in > the 1850s. I have just looked at Cregoe Street on Google Earth and it has > ,obviously, been completely redeveloped. > Has anyone got photos of the street before redevelopment? I'd be most > grateful. > > Regards > > Bernard > > -- > Searching for MANTELL in Salop, Walsall, Birmingham, London, MDX > PAINTER in MDX > YOUNG in MDX and Worcs > Cousins circle the world! http://www.LostCousins.com > > -- > Searching for MANTELL in Salop, Walsall, Birmingham, London, MDX > PAINTER in MDX > YOUNG in MDX and Worcs > Cousins circle the world! http://www.LostCousins.com > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Searching for MANTELL in Salop, Walsall, Birmingham, London, MDX PAINTER in MDX YOUNG in MDX and Worcs Cousins circle the world! http://www.LostCousins.com

Hi List & Attn Stephen Hurst Street, B,ham City centre still a thriving place, Modernised,lots of Shops etc Inge Street containing the"Back-to-Back" houses is on a corner with Hurst St, Top-end The old houses are a tourist attraction & well worth a walk through with knowledgable guides giving lots of social history in narration,, The central library is 2 minute walk through the city, Hurst St then up Hill St, Ok enjoy your visit. Cheers John Y in Solihull

Just had this from Birmingham RO re. Robert: > The entry in December Quarter 1862 was checked but as it is not the one > required, it was not detailed (the occupation differed, the age differed by > 5 years and no mention is made of Ireland). So it's not our man.

Hi Stephen It CAN be a very expensive hobby especially if you have to purchase sterling cheques as well as the cost of the cert as I do- if no VISA is available. I have made a practise of buying the certs (BMDs) for my direct lines back ie 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 greatgrandparents etc. For all the others I have only purchased certs where I have a problem of similar names or some mystery that needs to be solved. Back to 1837 I have recorded the name, qtr, year, district of registration and reference number of anyone I have included in my tree & could quickly purchase the cert if need be! I have backed up my info with censii, baptisms, burials etc. Pre 1837 I have ordered the films from the LDS (if available) and have photocopied baptisms , marriage entries and burial entries so essentially getting "certs" from the Parish register. I have done the same with minor branches post 1837 if the film is available. Each person has an individual hard copy file (because I have had a computer crash early on and had to start again!) I am now in the process of trying to gain one "extra gem" for each person such as a military record, witness statement, inquest report, postcards or letters written by the individual (great source of info if the family passed them onto a Museum), court appearances & charges, bastardy or resettlement reports etc. Have to tell you that I have been 'collecting' for about 15 years and it so much easier now that it's easily available online! You would be wise to look for James's death but remember many circumstances might have led to Elizabeth being alone at that time. James might have been in the Military, in prison, or away working elsewhere. DON"T be surprised at anything you find - after all they were human!! Good Luck Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <genukilists@tinfoil.cotse.net> To: "Marlene Shipman" <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Rice: Robert b. 1828 Ireland m. Birmingham 1850d.1860-1? >> You might have to resort to purchasing the birth cert of Esther and >> searching for the baptisms of the other daughters for a wee gem or two! > > I have already ordered this as she is the only child born after 1837. > >> Certainly you should follow >> through all siblings from your parents back to your grandparents and >> great >> grandparents because each generation will add something to your know >> ledge. > > > Have you bought bmd certificates for all siblings? That will be very > expensive! > >> Secondly the occupation for Elizabeth in the Workhouse might have related >> to >> previous work, or she might have been living in the Workhouse but found >> casual employment outside or she might have been a servant at the >> Workhouse >> for some reason. >> Remember the Census records where the individual was on that particular >> night and she might have just "popped in" for a day or week or a >> fortnight! >> Perhaps James & Elizabeth were separated at that time if he was away >> working? Perhaps he hadn't earned enough money to support her? > > I am confused that she is listed as married. If James was alive I > would have thought he would have been there with her. I think I'll > have to look for his death in the GRO index as I cannot find him in > the 1861 census. > > > Thanks, > Stephen. > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you got to http://www.a2a.org.uk/ click on search, click on Birmingham City Archives and then use Cadbury as a search term, you will discover what records of the Cadbury's are held and where. Regards Linda Staffs UK Researching: Cook(e) Plant Mason Keys Pearsall and variants Broster Rastall Turner Smith Miller Morgan Simmons Baker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Thomas" <family@mypandas.me.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [B'ham] Cadbury's Employees Records > Please could someone tell me if Cadbury's would hold records of past > employees. Or, maybe, if these are held at Birmingham Library. > > Any help will be much appreciated > > Regards > > Hilary

Hi Hilary I got my grandmothers records from the period 1890-1910 from their archives dept. Woman had to leave on marriage and all got a bible on their marriage. Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Thomas" <family@mypandas.me.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [B'ham] Cadbury's Employees Records > Please could someone tell me if Cadbury's would hold records of past > employees. Or, maybe, if these are held at Birmingham Library. > > Any help will be much appreciated > > Regards > > Hilary > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

my husband bob bird who worked at cadburys between 1959 and 1967 says that if you go to stirchley library and look at the cadburys monthly magazine , he believes that the magazines should be there from the fifties through till 1970,s, so try that first and see what you can find there should be something there ok best of luck bob and chris bird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hilary Thomas" <family@mypandas.me.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: [B'ham] Cadbury's Employees Records > Please could someone tell me if Cadbury's would hold records of past > employees. Or, maybe, if these are held at Birmingham Library. > > Any help will be much appreciated > > Regards > > Hilary > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >