Gary Not my family but a quick search on Ancestry 1901 census brought up this child who might be your man - the marriage certificate would tell you if the father's name matches 1901 England Census about Samuel C Icke Name: Samuel C Icke Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation: Son Father's name: William J Mother's name: Sarah A Gender: Male Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Tipton Ecclesiastical parish: Tipton St Martin Town: Tipton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Tipton ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 134 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Icke 9 Emanuel Icke 4 Samuel C Icke 6 Sarah A Icke 37 Sydney Icke 2 Thomas Icke 10 William J Icke 37 William J Icke 12 This one is older, but initials match 1901 England Census about Samuel H Icke Name: Samuel H Icke Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's name: Samuel B Mother's name: Christina Gender: Male Where born: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: Summerfield Christchurch County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: Lady Wood ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age Christina Icke 54 Samuel B Icke 58 Samuel H Icke 25 Rosa Reynolds 25 HTH Anne On 15 Nov 2006, at 09:34, J hodge wrote: > > > Hi List > > Chasing some names up, I am looking for a samuel (harold) ICKE who > married a Edith Etta grace KNIGHT in 1921 aston birmingham , folklore > suggests shropshire /worcs as birth place of samuel, are there any > list > members researching this person. > > gary hodge > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List Chasing some names up, I am looking for a samuel (harold) ICKE who married a Edith Etta grace KNIGHT in 1921 aston birmingham , folklore suggests shropshire /worcs as birth place of samuel, are there any list members researching this person. gary hodge

Gary, I am researching Knights and Cliftons myself - these a re a big family too Worcs/Aston/ Whitel Ladies/ Staffs are places I found them so far - but I haven't seen the name Icke yet - could just be early days with my research or totally unconnected. I have come across a Peter Knight who is researching Knights on the B'ham Webring he is also studying this name similar area's - he maybe worth looking for over on the webring cause he has done lots of research and he may have something about names you are looking for to help you - might be worth your while posting the same question over there see if you get any answers? Cause from what I understand there are lots of Knights - so maybe you could come across the right line of this family? _http://forums.birminghamhistory.co.uk/_ (http://forums.birminghamhistory.co.uk/) I am sure there is a facility where you can do a search on there - something may come up - or you could post a question perhaps? Goodluck

I have researched the Knights, as at one time I thought that a Thomas Hope Aston was one of ours. It developed that he wasn't, but he married a KNIGHT. I don't have the information in front of me, but you could find Thomas Hope Aston on google. It's early morning now, everyone but me, is asleep. I shall look further for the Knights, as they, and Thomas Hope Aston were from Aston. Thomas was a minister of some note. If this is not what you want, let me know, please, and I won't look any further. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: J hodge<mailto:jhdl10848@blueyonder.co.uk> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:34 AM Subject: [B'ham] ICKE/ KNIGHT Hi List Chasing some names up, I am looking for a samuel (harold) ICKE who married a Edith Etta grace KNIGHT in 1921 aston birmingham , folklore suggests shropshire /worcs as birth place of samuel, are there any list members researching this person. gary hodge _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the only Charles but no sister Maria. Charles H Stone Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Household Members: Name Age Matilda Nuth 19 Alfred F Stone 4 Charles H Stone 6 Eliza Stone 34 Elizabeth Stone 9 Susan M A Stone 8 William Stone 35 William Stone 11 Then there's this family in Staffs which have both Charles and Mary Mary Stone Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Caroline Gender: Female Where born: Hopwas, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Tamworth County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Tamworth Sub-registration district: Tamworth ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 68 Household Members: Name Age Ambrace Stone 2 Caroline Stone 30 Charles Stone 9 James Stone 13 John Stone 7 Mary Stone 4 Oliver Stone 6 William Stone 34 Willie Stone 6 Mo HTH Anne On 14 Nov 2006, at 17:14, JANE DYER wrote: > can't find 'em! do you have the parents' names? > > julie insull <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: hi list > could some kind person have a look for siblings > MARIA STONE BORN 1856 > CHARLES STONE 1855 > both born birmingham ,should still be in birmingham > would be realy grateful > thanks > julie

Hello Julie I have sent off list what may be Charles. It may be easier if you know the parents names. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie insull" <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham-d@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: [B'ham] 1861 look up please > hi list > could some kind person have a look for siblings > MARIA STONE BORN 1856 > CHARLES STONE 1855 > both born birmingham ,should still be in birmingham > would be realy grateful > thanks > julie > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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can't find 'em! do you have the parents' names? julie insull <jinsull789@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: hi list could some kind person have a look for siblings MARIA STONE BORN 1856 CHARLES STONE 1855 both born birmingham ,should still be in birmingham would be realy grateful thanks julie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi list could some kind person have a look for siblings MARIA STONE BORN 1856 CHARLES STONE 1855 both born birmingham ,should still be in birmingham would be realy grateful thanks julie Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Listers! I would like to thank everyone that took the time to read my posting. A few new clues have now appeared about my adopted grandfather. I will explore these and see where it leads me. Again thanks for pointing me in a new direction! Linda Yendall ~ N. Vancouver Island, BC Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/533 - Release Date: 13/11/2006

Doug, do not go away....my lot were also Leabeter, not Leadbeter as everyone seems to think it was.....get back to me on my email please, let us not bore the list. robyn shaw. qld. oz. ---- Doug <dougmcd@australiaonline.net.au> wrote: > Hello Allan, > > This message is not for me. > > Mine was about my grandfather William Leabeter. > > Trust this helps in sorting out. > > Regards, Doug > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ALAN FIELD" <afield.family@btopenworld.com> > To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 6:52 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Adoption > > > > Hello Linda, > > > > I n answer to your questions regarding adoption. > > Before 1926 there was no form of legal requirement to adopt a child so > > the birth certificate remained the same as when registered. > > Sometimes children were adopted privatly by solictor a adoption agreement > > was drawn up by both parties these are usually held with in a family and > > not kept by any offical office. > > Where would you be looking at parish records if it is birmingham i could > > look up for you. > > Sometimes parish records will give you the area that a mother orignated > > from if different from the child's parish. > > On a census sometimes the child still has their birth name and is listed > > as boarder and on another census listed as the child of the adoptive > > parents. > > Hope this helps, > > San > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > This mail has been virus scanned by Lizzy Internet > > see http://www.lizzy.com.au/mailscanning > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1871 Name: George Luckman Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Catherina Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: 3 back of 16 Burbury Street Occupation: Jeweller Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3126; Folio: 97; Page: 6 Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Household schedule number: 26 Household Members: Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Catherina Luckman George abt 1838 West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Wife Eliza Luckman George, Catherina abt 1861 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter Emily Luckman George,Catherina abt 1865 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter George Luckman Catherina abt 1835 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Head George Luckman George,Catherina abt 1867 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son John Luckman George, Catherina abt 1863 London, England Son Louisa Luckman George, Catherina abt 1869 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Daughter William Luckman George, Catherina abt 1870 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Son Name Age Catherina Luckman 33 Eliza Luckman 10 Emily Luckman 6 George Luckman 36 George Luckman 4 John Luckman 8 Louisa Luckman 2 William Luckman 8 months HTH Anne On 13 Nov 2006, at 11:53, pgwright wrote: > Hi List, > Can anyone help me in my search for George Luckman and > wife Catharine(nee Baxter). > George was born 29/9/1834,and Catharine was Registered > Q4 1837,they Married on the 10/6/1860. > I cannot find them or there children on the 1861-1871 census > or the B M D lists. > On the 1881 census they are all there George,Catharine and 10 children > all born in Birmingham between 1861 and 1869. > Any help would be most welcome > > Pete >

I also forgot that I can't find him passed the 1861 census do you have a death date? I found a possible death record and sent for it. He would be my grandmothers great uncle (I think). RaKay >From: J KING <jillybrenin@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [B'ham] SMAWLEY >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:00:25 +0000 (GMT) > >Forgot to say.... > Hi > I have a Charles Smawley who wed a Mary Blencowe - again Birmingham > Jilly > >RaKay Dance <rakaydance@hotmail.com> wrote: > I finally found another link to my mystery family. I found my Elizabeth >Clarissa BLINKO's sister Mary Ann married a David SMAWLEY. This was >registered in the West Bromwich district. Is this close to Aston? Also in >the 1851 Census they have a Sophia PAYNE who is a nurse child 1 year of >age, >and a Emma PAYNE who is a servant/nurse 13 years old. Can anyone explain >who these children might be? It doesn't appear that David and Mary Ann had >children--at least any that where with them at this time. Any suggestions?? >Rakay DANCE > >_________________________________________________________________ >Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! >http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp0070000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us

This is wonderful. I had found a David Smawley that married a Mary Berry and wondered if it was the same one. Did she die early? I have him marrying Mary Ann Blincks (Blinko) in Sept quarter 1840. He was 11 years older that my Mary Ann Blinko. Do you have a birth date for him? How about parents (I asume that William was his father). Where exactly was he born? Did he have children with either wife?? I would love any other information you might have. Thanks for anything you can offer. Rakay >From: J KING <jillybrenin@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [B'ham] SMAWLEY >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:54:06 +0000 (GMT) > >Hello, > I can tell you he married Mary Ann Berry and he is a rellie of mine. >Smalleys round Birmingham ( who seemed to migrate from Leicestershire are >variously spelt Smalley/Smawley...and probably started in Lancashire where >there are of that name) > > From what I can gather they did not have children but did have the >Paynes around at various census. > > David is my second Gt Grand uncle. > > I am sorry to say I havent been following your Blinko line. Hope this >all helps though > > Jilly > >RaKay Dance <rakaydance@hotmail.com> wrote: > I finally found another link to my mystery family. I found my Elizabeth >Clarissa BLINKO's sister Mary Ann married a David SMAWLEY. This was >registered in the West Bromwich district. Is this close to Aston? Also in >the 1851 Census they have a Sophia PAYNE who is a nurse child 1 year of >age, >and a Emma PAYNE who is a servant/nurse 13 years old. Can anyone explain >who these children might be? It doesn't appear that David and Mary Ann had >children--at least any that where with them at this time. Any suggestions?? >Rakay DANCE > >_________________________________________________________________ >Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! >http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline

HI Pete 1861 census details sent off list Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "pgwright" <pete@pgwright.co.uk> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: [B'ham] George Luckman HELP > Hi List, > Can anyone help me in my search for George Luckman and > wife Catharine(nee Baxter). > George was born 29/9/1834,and Catharine was Registered > Q4 1837,they Married on the 10/6/1860. > I cannot find them or there children on the 1861-1871 census > or the B M D lists. > On the 1881 census they are all there George,Catharine and 10 children all > born in Birmingham between 1861 and 1869. > Any help would be most welcome > > Pete > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Hi Pete, 1871 image sent off list, but I couldn't find them in 61. Barb Stacey Solihull UK > Can anyone help me in my search for George Luckman and > wife Catharine(nee Baxter). > George was born 29/9/1834,and Catharine was Registered > Q4 1837,they Married on the 10/6/1860. > I cannot find them or there children on the 1861-1871 census > or the B M D lists. > On the 1881 census they are all there George,Catharine and 10 children all > born in Birmingham between 1861 and 1869. > Any help would be most welcome >

Hi List Does anyone have an Eliza JONES (nee EGERTON) who was a widow living in Birmingham prior to1880? When she married again (Dec qtr 1880) to John CARTER, she gave her father's name as James EGERTON (deceased) a labourer, and her address at marriage was Upton on Severn, Worcs. It is possible that her father could be William rather than James EGERTON as her bridegroom's father was actually James CARTER but he is listed on the marriage cert as William CARTER and I'm wondering whether the two names got transposed - unless John was losing it by then! At date of their marriage, John said he was 76 and Eliza 73. John was really 72. Eliza signed x on marriage cert. Witnesses at their wedding were Henry BRICK and Harriett WILLIAMS. Neither of these two are related to John CARTER. On 1881 census they are living in Upton on Severn. John died in 1884. I don't know when Eliza died. On all censuses from 1851, John was a shoemaker in Birmingham. Prior to 1848 he was in the East Indies with East India Trading Company for many years, and was in receipt of an EIC pension when he died. His pension was only sent to Upton on Severn after 1880 which suggests he was possibly still in the Birmingham area immediately prior to his marriage to Eliza. I would love to know more about Eliza and her background if anyone has any connection to her. Many thanks Barbara

Hi Pete I did some photos years ago for a LUCKMAN researcher ,name ?, any way the photo of a grave stone has on it a george luckman. There are two gravestones ,I think next to each other ,which I think are in lodge hill cemetary. One stone as far as I can read has the name of Arabella? Luckman ,cannot read rest of photo of stone . the other stone has clearly top to bottom Laviana Luckman, wife of George Luckman, died jan? 18/1952, aged 88 years. also of George Luckman, died 18/19?? aged 88/89? years. I can send the poor images if you wish. gary hodge pgwright wrote: > Hi List, > Can anyone help me in my search for George Luckman and > wife Catharine(nee Baxter). > George was born 29/9/1834,and Catharine was Registered > Q4 1837,they Married on the 10/6/1860. > I cannot find them or there children on the 1861-1871 census > or the B M D lists. > On the 1881 census they are all there George,Catharine and 10 children all born in Birmingham between 1861 and 1869. > Any help would be most welcome > > Pete > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi List, Can anyone help me in my search for George Luckman and wife Catharine(nee Baxter). George was born 29/9/1834,and Catharine was Registered Q4 1837,they Married on the 10/6/1860. I cannot find them or there children on the 1861-1871 census or the B M D lists. On the 1881 census they are all there George,Catharine and 10 children all born in Birmingham between 1861 and 1869. Any help would be most welcome Pete