Hi Marlene, Regarding Caroline Reeves do you have any idea where her parents came from? as I have Reeves from Gloucester, they also had a Caroline, whom I can't find. Birth around 1823 though. cheers Joy

Hi Their daughter Kate's birth was registered Sept Qtr 1855 in B'ham 6d/96, there may have been a child of theirs named Selina birth reg. Mar Qtr 1857 6d/117 died June 1863 and/or a Charles birth registered Dec Qtr 1857 6d/130 Mary Jane Mar Q 1858 6d/7 B'ham? William was registered Mar Q 1859 6d/104 B'ham Eva was registered Sept Qtr 1861 6d/102 B'ham Albert was registered June 1862 6d/116 B'ham There was also a George C registered in June 1866 B'ham who might have been registered late? There was an Eliza who died Sept Qtr 1865 6d/1_4 - most likely his wife, as WILLIAM M /PENNER/ born Lyon is on the 1881 census with a wife named Caroline, son William born 1859, son Albert born 1862, married daughter Kate ROBERTS & a grandson.plus 2 children from his 2nd marriage. William M PINNER appears to have remarried to Caroline TOLLEY Dec Q 1877 6d/504 All the registrations point to B'ham as opposed to Aston especially Eva? Not sure whether this helps or hinders?? Sorry I haven't got 1861. Happy hunting Marlene Anthony Hofstee wrote: > William was born about 1839 in Lyons, France. He married in 1854 > with Eliza Barnes. William was obviously very young when he > married. I have children Kate (1855), William (1859), Eva (1861) and > Albert (1864). He was a gun finisher. I have no idea how old Eliza > was nor where she was born. Tony > > At 06:21 AM 12/26/2006, you wrote: > >> Sorry, no luck with this at all. >> Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of >> children, occupation? >> Anne >> On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: >> >> >>> Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William >>> Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, >>> Birmingham. Thanks. Tony >>> >>> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Graeme Don't suppose your Family Bible includes Edward REEVES. who had a daughter Caroline in 1857? May be other siblings but I haven't explored that line any further. Caroline REEVES married Thomas HODGKISS in 1876 had 2 children Thomas 1877 and Edwin 1878-1882. Thomas Snr died in 1880 and Caroline Hodgkiss nee REEVES remarried into my WARD family. You can find her as a widow in 1881 with her 2 children and boarders in Saltley Street Aston. Cheers Marlene GRAEME BERRY wrote: > Hello Listers > > I am now looking into my Reeves Family, I would like any help that can be given, this is what I have to go on. > > In 1869, they was living at Wainwight St Aston Manor, where Mary Ann was born > > 20 Bridge Road Aston 1881 > My Great Grandmother Mary Ann, aged 12.together with her parents, Henry and Amelia, nee Watson, and brothers and sisters, John,William,Lousia, and Florence. > > In 1891, they was still living in 20 Bridge road, when Mary Ann married my Grandfather Albert Berry. > > There are a lot of names in the Revees family bible which must be connected but I do'nt know how, Liniker and Neal > > Would Like Some Help Please, > > Many Thanks > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Marlene, No, there is no Edward in the bible, but I have traced some more of the family and on the Cencus dated 1851, PRO Ref, HO/107/2052, Folio, 271 page 31, FHL film No 0087308, living at 60 bishopgate St B,ham James Reeves head 48 Ann Wife 45 Elizabeth Dau 19 Henry Son 16, my gg grandfather Samuel Son 13 Joyce dau 11 Emma dau 9 Edward son 7 Eliza dau 5 Charles son 3 Harriet dau 7 Hope this helps Graeme Marlene Shipman <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> wrote: Hi Graeme Don't suppose your Family Bible includes Edward REEVES. who had a daughter Caroline in 1857? May be other siblings but I haven't explored that line any further. Caroline REEVES married Thomas HODGKISS in 1876 had 2 children Thomas 1877 and Edwin 1878-1882. Thomas Snr died in 1880 and Caroline Hodgkiss nee REEVES remarried into my WARD family. You can find her as a widow in 1881 with her 2 children and boarders in Saltley Street Aston. Cheers Marlene GRAEME BERRY wrote: > Hello Listers > > I am now looking into my Reeves Family, I would like any help that can be given, this is what I have to go on. > > In 1869, they was living at Wainwight St Aston Manor, where Mary Ann was born > > 20 Bridge Road Aston 1881 > My Great Grandmother Mary Ann, aged 12.together with her parents, Henry and Amelia, nee Watson, and brothers and sisters, John,William,Lousia, and Florence. > > In 1891, they was still living in 20 Bridge road, when Mary Ann married my Grandfather Albert Berry. > > There are a lot of names in the Revees family bible which must be connected but I do'nt know how, Liniker and Neal > > Would Like Some Help Please, > > Many Thanks > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anthony - I think this may be them! Found by looking for Kate born 1855 + - 2 in Birmingham! 1861 England Census about Kate Primer Name: Kate Primer Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's name: William Mother's name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Court 1 Hicks Square ( between 5 & 6) Occupation: Gun finisher Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Primer 25 Eva Primer 7 Mo Kate Primer 5 Selina Primer 3 William Primer 23 William Primer 2 Eliza Primer William abt 1836 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Wife Birmingham Warwickshire Eva Primer William, Eliza abt 1860 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Kate Primer William, Eliza abt 1856 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire Selina Primer William, Eliza abt 1858 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Daughter Birmingham Warwickshire William Primer Eliza abt 1838 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Head Birmingham Warwickshire William Primer William, Eliza abt 1859 Birmm, Warwickshire, England Son Birmingham Warwickshire Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2147; Folio: 70; Page: 17; HTH Anne On 27 Dec 2006, at 11:44, Marlene Shipman wrote: > Hi > Their daughter Kate's birth was registered Sept Qtr 1855 in B'ham > 6d/96, > there may have been a child of theirs named Selina birth reg. Mar Qtr > 1857 6d/117 died June 1863 and/or a Charles birth registered Dec Qtr > 1857 6d/130 > Mary Jane Mar Q 1858 6d/7 B'ham? > William was registered Mar Q 1859 6d/104 B'ham > Anthony Hofstee wrote: >> William was born about 1839 in Lyons, France. He married in 1854 >> with Eliza Barnes. William was obviously very young when he >> married. I have children Kate (1855), William (1859), Eva (1861) and >> Albert (1864). He was a gun finisher. I have no idea how old Eliza >> was nor where she was born. Tony >> >> At 06:21 AM 12/26/2006, you wrote: >> >>> Sorry, no luck with this at all. >>> Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of >>> children, occupation? >>> Anne >>> On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William >>>> Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, >>>> Birmingham. Thanks. Tony >>>> >>>> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers I am now looking into my Reeves Family, I would like any help that can be given, this is what I have to go on. In 1869, they was living at Wainwight St Aston Manor, where Mary Ann was born 20 Bridge Road Aston 1881 My Great Grandmother Mary Ann, aged 12.together with her parents, Henry and Amelia, nee Watson, and brothers and sisters, John,William,Lousia, and Florence. In 1891, they was still living in 20 Bridge road, when Mary Ann married my Grandfather Albert Berry. There are a lot of names in the Revees family bible which must be connected but I do'nt know how, Liniker and Neal Would Like Some Help Please, Many Thanks Graeme Berry

no luck I'm afraid, I've tried soundex & pres* searching john, harriett & ruth & no likely candidates. Of course the other daughters could have been married by 1841. I'll have a look for Ann as John may have been dec'd in 1844 without it being stated on the marriage cert. Gerry Edwards <jedwac342@rogers.com> wrote: Hi Jane: Thanks for your reply. John Prescott was a Husbandman according to Ann's Marriage Certificate and was residing in Duddeston in May 1844. Unfortunately I don't know his age or any other info at this time. Gerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANE DYER" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] 1841 Census Look-up- PRESCOTT- Duddeston Area > hi, I think you'll have to be a bit more specific. Do you have a dob for > John? I'll try looking for Harriett as it's a less common name > J > > Gerry Edwards wrote: > Hello Listers: > > I am trying to locate the family of John Prescott and his wife Ann. One of > their daughters Ann was married at Aston Juxta Birmingham in 1844. Other > siblings may include Harriett and Ruth. The family were originally from > the Redditch, Worcester area. > If possible I would like the 1841 census listing for the family and > hopefully they are already in the Birmingham area. > Thank you. > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi, I think you'll have to be a bit more specific. Do you have a dob for John? I'll try looking for Harriett as it's a less common name J Gerry Edwards <jedwac342@rogers.com> wrote: Hello Listers: I am trying to locate the family of John Prescott and his wife Ann. One of their daughters Ann was married at Aston Juxta Birmingham in 1844. Other siblings may include Harriett and Ruth. The family were originally from the Redditch, Worcester area. If possible I would like the 1841 census listing for the family and hopefully they are already in the Birmingham area. Thank you. Gerry Edwards Canada _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gerry: This is your lucky day. For many years I have been piecing together the family trees of all the PRESCOTTs in the Midlands, and have found that most of us are related. We nearly all descend from Hugh PRESCOTT and his wife Ann who lived in the parish of Claines, Worcestershire in the late 16th century. Your John and Ann PRESCOTT are on my charts, and if you are descended from them then we are related, although very distantly. In brief, John's father was William, then the line proceeds through Frances, Jabez, Henry, Roger, Richard, Hugh (as mentioned above), John and Hugh. This latter Hugh is the earliest I've found, and was alive in the year 1500. I can fill in the details. Best wishes Paul Prescott (Descended from Richard, above). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Edwards" <jedwac342@rogers.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [B'ham] 1841 Census Look-up- PRESCOTT- Duddeston Area > Hello Listers: > > I am trying to locate the family of John Prescott and his wife Ann. One of > their daughters Ann was married at Aston Juxta Birmingham in 1844. Other > siblings may include Harriett and Ruth. The family were originally from > the Redditch, Worcester area. > If possible I would like the 1841 census listing for the family and > hopefully they are already in the Birmingham area. > Thank you. > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

William was born about 1839 in Lyons, France. He married in 1854 with Eliza Barnes. William was obviously very young when he married. I have children Kate (1855), William (1859), Eva (1861) and Albert (1864). He was a gun finisher. I have no idea how old Eliza was nor where she was born. Tony At 06:21 AM 12/26/2006, you wrote: >Sorry, no luck with this at all. >Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of >children, occupation? >Anne >On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: > > > Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William > > Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, > > Birmingham. Thanks. Tony > >

Hi Jane: Thanks for your reply. John Prescott was a Husbandman according to Ann's Marriage Certificate and was residing in Duddeston in May 1844. Unfortunately I don't know his age or any other info at this time. Gerry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JANE DYER" <jane.dyer@btinternet.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] 1841 Census Look-up- PRESCOTT- Duddeston Area > hi, I think you'll have to be a bit more specific. Do you have a dob for > John? I'll try looking for Harriett as it's a less common name > J > > Gerry Edwards <jedwac342@rogers.com> wrote: > Hello Listers: > > I am trying to locate the family of John Prescott and his wife Ann. One of > their daughters Ann was married at Aston Juxta Birmingham in 1844. Other > siblings may include Harriett and Ruth. The family were originally from > the Redditch, Worcester area. > If possible I would like the 1841 census listing for the family and > hopefully they are already in the Birmingham area. > Thank you. > > Gerry Edwards > Canada > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry, no luck with this at all. Do you have any other information - birthplaces, ages, names of children, occupation? Anne On 25 Dec 2006, at 04:20, Anthony Hofstee wrote: > Would someone please send me the 1861 census listing for William > Pinner and his wife Eliza and children. Probably in Aston, > Birmingham. Thanks. Tony > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers: I am trying to locate the family of John Prescott and his wife Ann. One of their daughters Ann was married at Aston Juxta Birmingham in 1844. Other siblings may include Harriett and Ruth. The family were originally from the Redditch, Worcester area. If possible I would like the 1841 census listing for the family and hopefully they are already in the Birmingham area. Thank you. Gerry Edwards Canada

Well, if the office you ask to do a search for such and such parents, fails for one reason or another, e.g. wrong spelling for name, wrong place, etc. you still get charged. Not the total amount, but part of it for the time it takes. Sometimes they stuff up. I did ask for a rellie and they told me no trace so I asked another source who got it for me. Later when I asked for another record, the person also sent me the original certificate I had asked them for, not realising that I had, in the meantime, obtained it elsewhere. I said nothing. They meant well. Just the same, why they couldn't find it first time up I have no idea. robyndehood. Qld. Oz. ----- Original Message ----- From: "J hodge" <jhdl10848@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 9:34 PM Subject: [B'ham] How obtain BMD > Hi List > > Being very short of readies (no job etc) Is it possibile to obtain > /prove a persons birth parents without having to actually part with > money , I relize you have to pay up front , but I am thinking that if I > list one of the parents wrong , but still proving that I am right in a > devious way and get my money back!!!!. > > Do they tell you on what parent it failed on , thus if I thought the > parents were really a william and emily ******, and just entered > williams name ,but with a false mothers name as well, what would I get > back from the GRO or whatever, if it failed on mothers name. > > And the search being made on a complete match of both. > > gary hodge > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: > 23/12/2006 4:47 PM > >

Hi I have noted a marriage Mar Qtr 1907 6d/286 /Aston /of Arthur Harry Stephens. It looks as if he married Lucy ATTWOOD, Jane HOWARD, Leah KELLY or Dorris RYAN (the latter might be a male). Can anyone advise on the female to whom Arthur married or eliminate one or two?? A DAISY M. STEPHENS was born to a Stephens father & Attwood mother in Evesham in Sept Qtr 1911. Is anyone researching this family? Were there other children? Alternatively can anyone who has visited B'ham Records office advise me if there is a list of marriages at B'ham Record Office? I have a vague memory of reading something about a Year 2000 project undertaken by students (?) Grateful for any advice - it's no fun going forwards! Cheers for the Season Marlene

Kia Ora Gerry Personally I think it is well worth purchasing death certs of direct ancestors. B'ham Records Office is particularly helpful if you specify what you want and add any additional info you may have which might identify the informant. ( In John's case it might be his wife or an elder child for example. You could specify where they were living in the 1881 census as well.) You can use VISA and you will get an address, age, cause of death, informant (if not known to you check the previous & next census for clues), occupation etc. My Aston ancestors died 1904- 1910 and are buried in Yardley Cemetery if that is any help. More informative than most birth certs and it is interesting to see if causes of death are inherited afflictions...??. Failing that you can search/ask for burials which will give you an approximation of the date of death. Happy hunting Marlene in New Zealand Gerry Edwards wrote: > Hello Listers: > > Is there any way I can get dates of deaths of my great grandparents who lived in the Aston Area of Birmingham. > John Messenger - I believe died in the December 1888 Quarter at Aston.(age about 38 years) > Lucy Ann (Hannah) Messenger - I believe died in the September Quarter of 1900 at Kings Norton.(age about 47) > Are there any newspaper obituaries or other records that would get me this information without going through a lot of expense ordering death certificates? > Thanks for any information you can provide. > > Gerry Edwards, Canada > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Gary, If you use the checking facility on the GRO site and the checks don't match up, you do get told what checks were wrong. I recently ordered a birth cert for the daughter (I thought) of John Davies, shoemaker, married to Elizabeth, late Jones, formerly Cross (John was her 2nd hubby). The email I got back told me that the father was not John Davies, he wasn't a shoemaker and the mother was not Elizabeth, so if you wanted to eliminate just one mother you could do it this way for £3 as the GRO will refund the other £4. However, I recently ordered a marriage cert, giving the groom's age as one of the checks, and they issued the cert because other checks were right but the groom's age was slightly wrong. It was actually the right cert and Charles had fibbed a little, so if you made up a mother's name and it was a close match (or you accidentally hit on the right name!) they might issue the cert anyway. If you belong to GR you could see if anyone on the site has the same family and already knows the mother's name. Regards, Ellie ----- Original Message ----- From: "J hodge" <jhdl10848@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [B'ham] How obtain BMD > Hi List > > Being very short of readies (no job etc) Is it possibile to obtain > /prove a persons birth parents without having to actually part with > money , I relize you have to pay up front , but I am thinking that if I > list one of the parents wrong , but still proving that I am right in a > devious way and get my money back!!!!. > > Do they tell you on what parent it failed on , thus if I thought the > parents were really a william and emily ******, and just entered > williams name ,but with a false mothers name as well, what would I get > back from the GRO or whatever, if it failed on mothers name. > > And the search being made on a complete match of both. > > gary hodge > > > > >

Hi Gary If you order with refs (i.e. stipulated names) and they do not match they will retain 4gbp search fee and return the other three pounds, no information is given as to the reference that did not match. (It is a time since I used the match system but believe that is still true) If you send to a local registrar, you should include an SAE so it will cost you slightly more, if the match is not correct they will usually return your cheque but again will not tell you why it does not match. So unless things have changed recently you are not going to gain much using either way of ordering. However if you know the Parish they were likely to be baptised in (if indeed they were?) you could order in the film for that Parish at an LDS FHS for not a vast sum, this may also provide you with possible siblings. You do not state the year(s) you are seeking information from? If post Sept quarter 1911 both parents names are entered on the GRO index, this can help to establish the parents without necessarily buying certs but to prove the entry you would still need to purchase the certificate. If you can wait a while longer the DOVE project may reduce the cost of buying the information or negate the need for some altogether? http://www.ffhs.org.uk/Societies/Latest/civil-reg-modernisation.htm Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) Admin for OVINGTON - HAYLOCK - SEYMOUR Lists > Being very short of readies (no job etc) Is it possibile to obtain > /prove a persons birth parents without having to actually part with > money , I relize you have to pay up front , but I am thinking that if I > list one of the parents wrong , but still proving that I am right in a > devious way and get my money back!!!!. > > Do they tell you on what parent it failed on , thus if I thought the > parents were really a william and emily ******, and just entered > williams name ,but with a false mothers name as well, what would I get > back from the GRO or whatever, if it failed on mothers name. > > And the search being made on a complete match of both. > > gary hodge

Hi Its possibile, gary hodge Michele Le Resche wrote: > Would that not mean the child was born the same quarter as the > marriage?!!! > Michele > > MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!! > > On 25 Dec 2006, at 11:18, J hodge wrote: > > Hi Marlene > > This may help , knowing that children are named after parents etc . > > View Record Gladys Lucy Stephens 1907 Jan-Feb-Mar > Evesham Gloucestershire, Hereford and Worcester, > Worcestershire > > gary hodge > > > > Marlene Shipman wrote: > >> Hi >> I have noted a marriage Mar Qtr 1907 6d/286 /Aston /of Arthur Harry >> Stephens. It looks as if he married Lucy ATTWOOD, Jane HOWARD, Leah >> KELLY or Dorris RYAN (the latter might be a male). >> Can anyone advise on the female to whom Arthur married or eliminate >> one >> or two?? >> A DAISY M. STEPHENS was born to a Stephens father & Attwood mother in >> Evesham in Sept Qtr 1911. Is anyone researching this family? Were >> there >> other children? >> Alternatively can anyone who has visited B'ham Records office >> advise me >> if there is a list of marriages at B'ham Record Office? I have a vague >> memory of reading something about a Year 2000 project undertaken by >> students (?) >> Grateful for any advice - it's no fun going forwards! >> Cheers for the Season >> Marlene >> _____________________________________________ >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> http://www.bham.de/ >> >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- >> admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- >> BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- > BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Would that not mean the child was born the same quarter as the marriage?!!! Michele MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!! On 25 Dec 2006, at 11:18, J hodge wrote: Hi Marlene This may help , knowing that children are named after parents etc . View Record Gladys Lucy Stephens 1907 Jan-Feb-Mar Evesham Gloucestershire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire gary hodge Marlene Shipman wrote: > Hi > I have noted a marriage Mar Qtr 1907 6d/286 /Aston /of Arthur Harry > Stephens. It looks as if he married Lucy ATTWOOD, Jane HOWARD, Leah > KELLY or Dorris RYAN (the latter might be a male). > Can anyone advise on the female to whom Arthur married or eliminate > one > or two?? > A DAISY M. STEPHENS was born to a Stephens father & Attwood mother in > Evesham in Sept Qtr 1911. Is anyone researching this family? Were > there > other children? > Alternatively can anyone who has visited B'ham Records office > advise me > if there is a list of marriages at B'ham Record Office? I have a vague > memory of reading something about a Year 2000 project undertaken by > students (?) > Grateful for any advice - it's no fun going forwards! > Cheers for the Season > Marlene > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- > BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM- admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS- BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message