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    1. Re: [B'ham] Death Query
    2. Roz Jones
    3. I've googled - could it be Morbus Cordis? - which is 'heart disease' and found this link - http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/medical-diseases.htm Roz Pauline Roberts <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote: Hello all I have today received a death certificate of my 3 x gt grandfather. The cause of death is Morbus Chardis (or that is what it looks like), Anasarca and Ascites. I know what Morbis is and Anasarca and Ascites but what is Chardis please, does anyone know? Many thanks Pauline _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    01/03/2007 07:59:50
    1. Re: [B'ham] Death Query
    2. Anne Peat
    3. Hi Pauline Morbus is disease. Chardis - you have a choice of 'cordis' heart or 'caducus' - epilepsy. HTH Anne On 3 Jan 2007, at 11:40, Pauline Roberts wrote: > Hello all > > I have today received a death certificate of my 3 x gt grandfather. > > The cause of death is Morbus Chardis (or that is what it looks like), > Anasarca and Ascites. I know what Morbis is and Anasarca and Ascites > but > what is Chardis please, does anyone know? > > Many thanks > > Pauline > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/03/2007 06:52:09
    1. Re: [B'ham] Death Query
    2. Mike Fisher
    3. Hi Pauline looks like the registrar put in an unwanted H , so how about Morbus Cardis ,which gets lots of entries on Gooooogle Mike Fisher in Droitwich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: [B'ham] Death Query > Hello all > > I have today received a death certificate of my 3 x gt grandfather. > > The cause of death is Morbus Chardis (or that is what it looks like), > Anasarca and Ascites. I know what Morbis is and Anasarca and Ascites but > what is Chardis please, does anyone know? > > Many thanks > > Pauline > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

    01/03/2007 06:45:06
    1. [B'ham] Hand
    2. Mary & Bob Schipp
    3. Dear Mike Is that "Hand" or "Hands"? Witnesses to the wedding in 1844 of my gggrandparents, Benjamin Bourne and Ann Gateley, were Sarah and William Hand. I have been unable to find them on either the 1841 or 1851 census, and have not been looking lately, but your request caught my eye (distractions are my forte - or downfall), so, if these names look familiar, please let me know. Mary (researching Bourne)

    01/03/2007 04:57:36
    1. [B'ham] Death Query
    2. Pauline Roberts
    3. Hello all I have today received a death certificate of my 3 x gt grandfather. The cause of death is Morbus Chardis (or that is what it looks like), Anasarca and Ascites. I know what Morbis is and Anasarca and Ascites but what is Chardis please, does anyone know? Many thanks Pauline

    01/03/2007 04:40:45
    1. Re: [B'ham] Spencer St
    2. Helen Verrall
    3. Jan >From 'Alumni Oxienienses' ( CD 0526 Archive CD Books ) SPENCER Benjamin , son of Benjamin of Halesowen, Salop *,gent. MAGDALEN HALL, matric 24 Jan. 1763 , aged 19yrs B.A. 1766, M.A. 1769. D.C.L. 1774. Vicar of Aston, Warks Rector of Hatton Lincs, 1780 until his death in 2nd Sept 1823; Father of Robert James SPENCER Robert James son of Benjamin of Aston, Cleric, Doctor of Law,WADHAM College, Matric 20 Nov 1798 aged 17yrs B.A. 1802 M.A. 1808 Fellow until 1814. Perpetual Curate Smethwick Staffs. Died in 1814 * Halesowen was part of SAL until 1846, then part of WOR , until 1909 D C L - Doctor of Civil Law hth Helen New Zealand --- --Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Neil Hearn Sent: Wednesday, 3 January 2007 9:44 a.m. To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] Spencer St G'day, Does anyone have any information about the Rev. Benjamin Spencer of Aston after whom Spencer St was reputedly named. I'd be most interested in family details but also his part in the Priestley Riots of 1791. Thanks, Jan _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/03/2007 04:20:48
    1. [B'ham] HANDS
    2. Mike YEGWART
    3. Hi Folks, Happy New Year to one and all. Yes, I'm looking at my HANDS again. My HANDS have variously escaped from Redditch/Tardebigge, Studley, Bromsgrove and Kings Norton over the past few hundred years. The database grows all the time. Another one this week popped up, one Henry HANDS, Blacksmith, of Bromsgrove, found in 1891 Deritend, Aston. So if anyone else has lost their HANDS, I may have found them. I also know a number of unrelated researchers who I may be able to put you in touch with. Kind regards Mike Yegwart

    01/03/2007 03:22:32
    1. [B'ham] WOODCOCKS of Aston
    2. christine
    3. Looking for information on my WOODCOCK family Edward Henry WOODCOCK (1863) married Eliza STORER 1880 in Aston. They had 6 children: Alice Edith May WOODCOCK (1884) married John (Jack) FLETCHER. He was from Aston and accompanied her on the ship Bertram Arthur WOODCOCK (1885) killed in WW1 Nellie Louise WOODCOCK (1886) married Edwin Davis. He too was from Aston and accompanied the family to Canada. George Henry WOODCOCK (1888) married Lillian DAWSON (daughter of John DAWSON and Clara MARKS - both of Aston) Edgar Leslie WOODCOCK (1894) married in Canada Eliza Mabel WOODCOCK (1899) married in Canada Anyone with information or a connection to the STORERS, WOODCOCKS or DAWSONS, I'd love to hear form you Thanks much Christine

    01/03/2007 02:39:46
    1. [B'ham] STORERS of Birmingham (Aston)
    2. christine
    3. Looking for information on my STORER family. Joseph William STORER married Eliza MEGGOTT in Bristol area. Then the family settled in Birmingham. 5 children - all born Aston: Eliza (1859) married Edward William WOODCOCK in 1880 6 children Kate (1860) married James LIGGINS in 1880 and they had 4 sons later relinquished as British Home Children. The eldest 2 to Middlemore Homes and the younger 2 to Barnardos. Ruth 1868 married George SKETT 5 daughters Edgar 1871 Joseph William 1873 The children of Joseph and Eliza emigrated to Canada about 1907. the youngest 2 (boys) both married here. They married sisters by the name of BOWATER. Any connections or information, I would love to hear from you and possibly exchange data. Thanks Christine

    01/03/2007 02:39:24
    1. Re: [B'ham] Charles Edward and Elizabeth CALLAGHAN
    2. On 02 Jan, Dawn Matheson <laverty@kos.net> wrote: > Death certificate for my ggm Elizabeth JENKINS WALTERS SIMMONDS gives > her address as: 63 Milcote Road, Selly Oak. She died 28 Feb 1943. > Electoral rolls for 1939/40 and 1945 list Charles Edward and Elizabeth > CALLAGHAN at that address. Ggm Elizabeth had a daughter Elizabeth b. > abt 1896 but I have not found a marriage to CALLAGHAN. Hope someone is > researching the CALLAGHAN name. Had you thought she might be renting from the Callaghans? Qualifications for voting changed in the first part of the 20th century and so she may not have got on the register in her own right. Another possibility is that she didn't actually marry Charles Callaghan, but used his name for the Electoral Register. > Best wishes to all for good luck in your research in 2007. Ggm Elizabeth was my brick wall for many years so don't give up! I found her! > Regards, > Dawn Matheson > Ontario, Canada > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Chris Pampling researching: BARRATT, DANCER, FELLOWS, GOODES, HOLDING, ROBINSON, TUCKLEY, WHEWAY, MAHER all in and around Birmingham/Smethwick, 1850 to present day PAMPLING Cambridgeshire - Sheffield, 1800 to present VARNDELL Wokingham - Birmingham, 1800 to present

    01/03/2007 02:07:05
    1. [B'ham] Spencer St
    2. Neil Hearn
    3. G'day, Does anyone have any information about the Rev. Benjamin Spencer of Aston after whom Spencer St was reputedly named. I'd be most interested in family details but also his part in the Priestley Riots of 1791. Thanks, Jan

    01/03/2007 12:44:05
    1. Re: [B'ham] Reeves
    2. Ros Jarvis
    3. I haven't done anything with the REEVES family because they are my uncle's wife's family and I know very little about them. All I know of earlier generations is that her father was Sidney. My aunt was born in 1911ish. I think he married a Florence ?. One of my cousin's cousins says this branch originally goes back to Yorkshire - he has done some research but not much and not online. They lived in Bordesley in the early 1900s. Write me off list if you think there may be a connection and I will ask my cousin what she knows. Ros ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" <graemeberry@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves > Hello Listers > > I am now looking into my Reeves Family, I would like any help that can be > given, this is what I have to go on. > > In 1869, they was living at Wainwight St Aston Manor, where Mary Ann was > born > > 20 Bridge Road Aston 1881 > My Great Grandmother Mary Ann, aged 12.together with her parents, Henry > and Amelia, nee Watson, and brothers and sisters, John,William,Lousia, and > Florence. > > In 1891, they was still living in 20 Bridge road, when Mary Ann married > my Grandfather Albert Berry. > > There are a lot of names in the Revees family bible which must be > connected but I do'nt know how, Liniker and Neal > > Would Like Some Help Please, > > Many Thanks > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/02/2007 12:36:42
    1. Re: [B'ham] Spencer St
    2. Douglas Hawkes
    3. Hi Jan, Here is a useful reference on Spencer: http://www.jstor.org/view/00312746/ap020020/02a00050/12?frame=noframe&userID=8d750183@ryerson.ca/01cc99331100501b58012&dpi=3&config=jstor Interestingly from my own University's website in Toronto, Doug. -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > G'day, > Does anyone have any information about the Rev. Benjamin Spencer > of Aston after whom Spencer St was reputedly named. I'd be most > interested in family details but also his part in the Priestley > Riots of 1791. > Thanks, > Jan > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/02/2007 11:53:38
    1. Re: [B'ham] Spencer St
    2. Douglas Hawkes
    3. Hi Jan, In the few minutes since I sent you the last e-mail I have found: Minister Robert James Spencer was ch 20 MAR 1781 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England. Parents Benjamin Spencer and Felicia Hicks, Marriage: 03 APR 1780 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England. The “Priestley” Riots of July 1791 are one of the best-documented episodes in Birmingham history. The initial coverage of the riots in the local and national press led to a plethora of letters to the papers and “corrective” pamphlets. The victims were, after all, what Chris Upton has termed the “chattering classes” of their day.1 Principal among these are at least three pamphlets all claiming to be “An Authentic Account” of the Riots2. But of course, prolific writer, William Hutton, a double victim of the Riots, had his say too3, as did his daughter, Catherine,4 and his friend William Russell’s daughter5. Perhaps the final word should rightly go to Priestley himself.6 The Riots are mentioned in all general histories of Birmingham, with detailed accounts in Dent7, Gill8 and Upton9, and had a whole book dedicated to them by popular historian, Vivian Bird, at the time of the bicentenary in 199110. More analytical accounts are given by Rose11 and Martineau12 (the latter addressing the single issue of whether the Riots were “managed”) while the wider context is provided by Money13. With all that has been written, it might be imagined that everything possible is known about the Riots. However, the story remains incomplete, due to the preponderance of accounts by people favourable to Priestley, and limited research into “the other side” as told by local establishment figures and the London Press. One of the few exceptions is the letter contesting Priestley’s view of the Riots in one of the Authentic Accounts14. This accuses Priestley of inciting the violence against him while in no way excusing it15. After all, Priestley had famously written in January 1791, “I have long since drawn the sword and thrown away the scabbard, and am very easy about the consequences”16. However, to the modern mind, Priestley’s defence - that his weapons had been words and with words only should they have been answered17 - rings truer. The circumstances leading up to the Riots are discussed in Rose18. The backdrop was years of growing tension between local dissenters and established churchmen connected with the campaign for the repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts; but the final spark was the political rift between radicals and conservatives brought about by the French Revolution of 1789. Like others in Birmingham, Priestley was firmly on the side of both dissent and radicalism, although as always the lines were somewhat blurred - one of the leading radicals, James Keir, was in fact an Anglican. 1 Upton, Chris, A History of Birmingham (Phillimore, Chichester, 1993), p. 55. 2 A) An Authentic Account of the Late Riots in the Town of Birmingham and its Vicinity, from the Commencement of Thursday, the 14th of July 1791, to the final Suppression on the 19th of the same month. Together with the Letter of Dr. Priestley, and an Answer thereto. Also, the several Letters of Wm. Russell and James Keir, Esqrs. With an Account of the Toasts drank at the Gallic Commemorative Meeting, at the Hotel, and a Literal Copy of the Seditious Hand-Bill, which is supposed to have given rise to these Riotous Proceedings (Birmingham 1791); B) An Authentic Account of the Dreadful Riots in Birmingham, occasioned by the Celebration of the French Revolution, on the 14th of July, 1791, when the Property of the Inhabitants was destroyed to the amount of Four Hundred Thousand Pounds (H.D. Symonds, London, 1791); C) An Authentic Account of the Riots in Birmingham, on the 14th, 15th, 16th, and 17th days of July, 1791. Also, the Judge's Charge, the Pleadings of the Counsel, and the Substance of the Evidence given on the Trials of the Rioters. And an Impartial Collection of Letters, &c.... The whole compiled, in order to preserve to posterity the Genuine Particulars ... of an Event, which attracted the Attention of Europe. (Compiled by James Belcher, Birmingham, 1791 - Appendix 1792). 3 A Narrative of the Riots in Birmingham, July 14, 1791, particularly as they affected the Author, in The Life of William Hutton (first published 1816, latest edition with introduction by Carl Chinn, Brewin, Studley, 1998) - Hutton says that he intended to publish this section separately “but my family would not suffer it to see the light” (p. 73). 4 A Narrative of the Riots in Birmingham, July, 1791 (“Printed for private circulation among the descendents of those who suffered in those troublous times”, Birmingham, 1875) - note the long delay before publication, long after Catherine and all others involved were dead. 5 Extensively quoted (along with Catherine Hutton) in Dent, Robert K, Old and New Birmingham (Birmingham, 1879), pp228-256 6 Priestley, Joseph, An Appeal to the Public, on the Subject of the Riots in Birmingham. To which are added, Strictures on a Pamphlet, intitled 'Thoughts on the Late Riot at Birmingham.' (J. Thompson, Birmingham, 1792) 7 Dent, op cit 8 Gill, Conrad, History of Birmingham, Volume 1: Manor and Borough to 1865 (Oxford University Press, London, 1952) 9 Upton, op cit 10 The Priestley Riots, 1791, and the Lunar Society(Birmingham and Midland Institute, Birmingham, 1991) 11 Rose, RB, “The Priestley Riots of 1791”, Past & Present, Number 18 (November 1960) pp68-88 - also summarised in “Political History to 1832”, Stephens, WB (ed), A History of the County of Warwick, Volume VII: The City of Birmingham (The Victoria History of the Counties of England, Oxford University Press, London, 1964) pp. 279-281 12 Martineau, Denis, “Playing Detective: the Priestley Riots of 1791”, Birmingham Historian Number 12, pp15-18 + Number 13, pp. 11-16 13 Money, John, Experience and Identity: Birmingham and the West Midlands 1760-1800 (Manchester University Press, Manchester, 1977) 14 (A) as cited above 15 ibid, pp. 16-19. 16 The Theological and Miscellaneous Works of Joseph Priestley (edited by JT Rutt, Hackney, 1817-31) Volume 2, p. 9. 17 An Authentic Avccount… (A), op. cit, pp. 13-16. 18 op cit, pp. 68-72. One of the abiding national images of the Riots is a cartoon by leading caricaturist, James Gillray, showing Priestley and other well-known radicals, toasting “the King’s head on a plate”. It represents the “London” view of the Riots which so much of the Birmingham literature is designed to counter. The cartoon refers to the event that set off the riots - a “Gallic Commemoration Dinner” in Birmingham on 14 July 1791 celebrating the second anniversary of the storming of the Bastille. It is of course a satire and not meant to be what actually happened - most of the people identified at the feast lived far from Birmingham and had nothing to do with Priestley except for some shared political views - but two “inaccuracies” are more significant from a local perspective. First, Priestley, shown as the proposer of the toast, did not actually attend the Dinner, as explained below; secondly, his pose, raising plate and chalice aloft, is more reminiscent of a Catholic communion than a Unitarian service, and brings to mind that on at least two occasions during the Riots, the mob is recorded as chanting “No Popery” - did they even know what they were rioting against? Priestley had fully intended to go to the Dinner and had even done his best to get others to attend19. But things had heated up considerably following an announcement of the event published in Aris’s Birmingham Gazette: “Any friend to freedom, disposed to join the intended temperate festivity, is desired to leave his name at the bar of the Hotel, where tickets may be had at five shillings each, including a bottle of wine”20 [clearly an 18th century use of the word “temperate”!]. This was accompanied by a statement that an attendance list would be published in a subsequent issue of the newspaper. The placing of this statement by the editor of the Gazette is seen by most Birmingham historians as a deliberate attempt to scare people off and is interpreted by Martineau21/ as the first in a series of “conspiratorial” actions taken by the town’s “establishment”. To make matters worse, a truly inflammatory handbill appeared in the streets at about the same time. It calls for “every Enemy to Civil and Religious Despotism” to “give his sanction to the Majestic Common Cause by a Public Celebration of the Anniversary”. It goes on to compare the recently overturned system in France with that still running England 22. The organisers of the Dinner were so determined to distance themselves from the handbill and its effect on the population that they published a second announcement in the Gazette on 13 July “to declare their entire disapprobation of all such Hand-bills, and their ignorance of the authors” and affirm their loyalty to “the Constitution”. Despite this, there was still the threat of violence against the participants and a third announcement was prepared, cancelling the Dinner; but at this point the owner of the Hotel, possibly concerned at the loss of trade, proposed a compromise - the Dinner should go ahead but finish early, before any potential rioters had gathered23. At some stage during all this uncertainty, Priestley had decided not to attend, perhaps believing that, without him there, the Dinner could proceed in peace. He intended to spend a quiet evening in his home at Fair Hill, Sparkbrook. 19 His invitation to William Hutton and its refusal are recorded by Catherine Hutton, op cit, quoted in Dent, op cit, p. 225. 20 Quoted in Upton, op cit, p. 53. 21 op cit, Part 2, p. 12. 22 Reproduced in An Authentic Account… (A), op cit, p. 2f. 23 ibid (“Mr Russell’s Refutation of a fallacious Account of the Toasts &c given in a London Print, called The Times, at the late Gallic Commemoration Dinner at the Hotel, Birmingham; addressed to the Editor of the Star, a London Paper”), p. 20f. Somewhere between 80 and 90 men attended the Dinner. They drank no fewer than 18 toasts [so that’s why they needed a bottle of wine each!] including “The King and Constitution”, “The Prince of Wales” and “Prosperity to the Town of Birmingham” as well as, more controversially, “The National Assembly and Patriots of France”, “The New Constitution of France” and “The Rights of Man”. They also toasted republican movements in the United States and Poland. Nevertheless, it was far short of the seditious declarations reported in the London press, in response to which the complete wording of the toasts was later published24. There had been some barracking of the diners as they entered the Hotel in Temple Row but it seemed that the hotelier’s plan had worked when they departed peacefully. It was only after they had gone that a mob gathered outside the Hotel, accompanied by the town magistrates, Joseph Carles and Benjamin Spencer and the Under-Sheriff of Warwickshire, John Brooke. The fact that these three had been drinking with members of the mob and were now mingling with them outside the Hotel is used by Martineau25 as further evidence that they were manipulating the situation to attack local radicals and particularly Priestley - however, it could also be argued that this is precisely what they should have been doing in order to try and take control of the situation (later in the Riots, William Hutton’s son, Thomas, briefly won over the mob attacking his father’s shop and got them to march with him at their head to the rescue of Bordesley Hall - although they quickly switched sides and joined the attackers when they got there26). 24 ibid, p. 22ff. 25 op cit, Part 2, p. 12f. 26 Catherine Hutton, op cit, quoted in Dent, op cit, p. 237. The first act of violence was the stoning of the empty hotel but the mob soon moved on to more “worthy” targets in the shape of Priestley’s New Meeting House on Moor Street and the nearby Old Meeting House in Worcester Street. It seems that Brooke may have bribed the mob to move on; if so this could have been simple self-interest as he owned a house near the hotel. Martineau contends that he went further, specifically recommending that they attack the Meeting Houses, and that he did this as part of a concerted plan with Carles and Spencer. -- Doug Hawkes e-mail: dhawkes@ee.ryerson.ca > G'day, > Does anyone have any information about the Rev. Benjamin Spencer > of Aston after whom Spencer St was reputedly named. I'd be most > interested in family details but also his part in the Priestley > Riots of 1791. > Thanks, > Jan > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/02/2007 09:54:04
    1. [B'ham] Charles Edward and Elizabeth CALLAGHAN
    2. Dawn Matheson
    3. Death certificate for my ggm Elizabeth JENKINS WALTERS SIMMONDS gives her address as: 63 Milcote Road, Selly Oak. She died 28 Feb 1943. Electoral rolls for 1939/40 and 1945 list Charles Edward and Elizabeth CALLAGHAN at that address. Ggm Elizabeth had a daughter Elizabeth b. abt 1896 but I have not found a marriage to CALLAGHAN. Hope someone is researching the CALLAGHAN name. Best wishes to all for good luck in your research in 2007. Ggm Elizabeth was my brick wall for many years so don't give up! I found her! Regards, Dawn Matheson Ontario, Canada

    01/02/2007 09:45:23
    1. Re: [B'ham] Rootsweb lists
    2. Wendy Archer
    3. Pauline asked: > Is anyone here on the Liverpool list please? I have tried, unsuccessfully > to join the Liverpool list, Helped off-list. Wendy B'ham list admin

    01/02/2007 06:16:00
    1. [B'ham] Rootsweb lists
    2. Pauline Roberts
    3. Hello listers Is anyone here on the Liverpool list please? I have tried, unsuccessfully to join the Liverpool list, even sending an e-mail to the list administrator, but no confirmation e-mail has been sent back to me and no administrator's reply. Does the Liverpool list still exist, or am I going slightly mad (or madder)? Pauline

    01/02/2007 02:57:12
    1. [B'ham] Long St
    2. Neil Hearn
    3. Is there still a Long St in Birmingham City? Spencer relatives lived there in 1891 census. Joseph Spencer, builder, is listed in the 1855 Warwickshire PO Directory as operating from Long St. Thanks

    01/01/2007 02:33:59
    1. Re: [B'ham] Cocoa / Chocolate Packer - SELLY OAK - Healey Road
    2. Jan Lovesey
    3. Hi Mike I still have the large bible and certificate given to my great gran Sarah Jane Harris upon her marriage in 1900 when as you say, she had to leave Cadbury's. Jan --- Mike Fisher Rootsweb Lists <mjflists@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Jane > > Women had to leave Cadbury's on marriage and were > give a bible, these > marriages were published in the works magazine. > > Mike Fisher in Droitwich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roger Goodger" <roger.goodger@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Cocoa / Chocolate Packer - > SELLY OAK - Healey Road > > > > Hi Jane > > > > I have the Cadbury Bournville Chocolate works > magazine annuals for > > November > > 1902-3, 1905-6, 1907-8, 1908-9, 1909-10. I > will have a look for your > > Ruth Moss and sister Annie but can you confirm > that MOSS was their maiden > > name and what their ages were in 1901 please > > > > Roger > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

    01/01/2007 10:01:27
    1. Re: [B'ham] Long St
    2. Michele Le Resche
    3. Long Street has a few houses left on it. Very few old ones, the majority of houses thyere were built inthe 1960 safter the slum clearances. But there are also a lot of factories too. Michele

    01/01/2007 07:45:08