If they were silver, I suppose it would. A manufacturing jeweller would stock silver, and make it into lots of things. Steel spoons would be made by a cutler, I think. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Curry" <nancurry@msn.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Jewellery Quarter > My Gr gr grandfather was a "spoonmaker" in Birminghamin about 1840. Would > that be considered "jewelry" in a larger sense. > Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: j.dodd<mailto:jl.dodd@ntlworld.com> > To: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:19 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Jewellery Quarter > > > Three generations of my family (DODD) worked as jewellers in the > Jewellery Quarter between about1850 and 1930. > > I am trying to find out what they made and where they worked. > Does anybody have any ideas about where I could start. I have tried the > Jewellery museum, but that doesn't seem very helpful. > > Also trying to find the antecedents of ENOCH DODD, b.1811, in King's > Norton/Handsworth area. > Can anyone help. > Thank you > John Dodd > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
St Andrew's Street crosses the Canal near Saltley Docks, the centre of canal transport. Could the "Railway Mission " be the equivalent of a Seaman's Mission, for canalboat workers? On the Norfolk/Cambs marshes they used to have floating churches - "Missions". Could this be something like that, a church for travelling families? A search of church sources might help. Hope this is useful John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Halstead" <allanhalstead@talktalk.net> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham's Railway Mission House > My wife's grandfather, Benjamin George HARRIS, died on the Somme on > 1/7/1916 aged 21. > > His Commonwealth War Graves Commission certificate shows his parents as > Walter and Annie HARRIS of Railway Mission House, St. Andrew's St., > Birmingham but I'm having no luck in tracing them. > > I've tried Googling "Birmingham Railway Mission House" but to no avail. > > Is it likely that the family would have been living there as caretakers, > and if so, are there likely to be any employment records anywhere? > > Incidentally, my wife was also christened at this Mission House in 1938. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Regards, > > Allan Halstead > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
In a message dated 1/5/2007 2:12:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, neil.hearn3@bigpond.com writes: Dear Georgina, Would you mind looking up Benjamin Spencer from about 1780-1830. Many thanks! To clarify .... I have a lovely book of Jewellery Making in Birmingham but it is in no wise a listing of people working in the Jewellery Quarter. The listing is those members of the Birmingham Jewellers and Silversmiths Association in 1915. There is no SPENCER listed. This does not mean that they are not there .. just that they didn't belong to the Assoc in 1915. I quote from the intro ... "Many of the numerous one and two man firms which abounded in the Jewellery Quarter were not members of the BJSA and are not included in the list. The firms on this list would have included most of the major jewellery and silverware manufacturers in Birmingham at this period, employing varying numbers of people from half a dozen to several hundred. Kelly's Birmingham Directory for 1915 lists 1,093 firms under 37 jewellery and silversmithing related headings." Georgina Goodby Fisher formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, California 6 miles east of Disneyland _www.goodbytree.org_ (http://www.goodbytree.org/) Goons member #4148 One Name Study of Goodby
Hello Listers: I wonder if someone could do a look up for me on the 1871 census . Hannah Messenger was 3 years old on the 1861 census, the daughter of Thomas and Ann Messenger in Aston. I believe both her parents died between 1861 and 1871. She had other siblings who were listed in 1871. I don't believe Hannah died in the decade shown and I may have found her on the 1881 census (age 23) as a servant for Thomas B. Shread at 35 Barker Street in Aston. If someone could locate Hannah in 1871 I would be grateful. Gerry Edwards Canada
According to the IGI (and we all know "reliable" that is, don't we):- Thomas & Elizabeth had a Richard christened on 17/7/1717 & a Thomas christened sometime in 1719. Richard & Ann had a Thomas christened sometime in 1719, a Richard christened on 15/1/1721 & a John christened on 4/7/1723 who then died on 9/8/1723. I would hazard a guess that Thomas & Richard senior were brothers, but I can find no reference to their christenings in Coughton to prove that. Around this time you also have other Perkins families having their progeny christened there:- Francis & Susanna; William & Elizabeth; & John & Ann. Families,eh! Who'd 'ave 'em? Without them there'd be no genealogy - & we wouldn't be around to worry about it either. Regards, Allan Halstead
Hello list and Happy New Year, My gggm was an Angelina (or Ann Selina) HANDS who may have been the base daughter of a certain Sarah Hands, a servant of Stourton, Warks. She (Sarah) may also have been the brother of Thomas Hands who married Ann Cook and who moved to Birmingham, a publican, and may well have adopted Sarah from his sister. Any info welcome. Best wishes, David Fisher. "I intend to live forever... so far so good!" -- Pictures of FISHERs (Brum), CONGREAVEs (Notts and Brum) and PUGHs and GATENBYs (Durham, Yorks and Brum) at http://snygyst.blogspot.com Images of BRUM at http://brummages.blogspot.com
Dear All. Well it seems like I upset a few people so I am very sorry, I should have thought, I do understand that it of course takes time, I have been looking into my family history for some seven years, and I am a member of three family history societies,and I do know how long it takes to look at a roll of film, if no index has been made, so I will come to Birmingham and go into the local records office. Sorry got carried away, can't say any more Graeme Pauline Roberts <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> wrote: Graeme I agree with Barbara, however, you might understand a little more if you knew that to peruse just one roll of film takes around two hours. That is why Barbara suggested it was a 'big ask'. Your local LDS can obtain them for you if they have not got them in stock. It costs little or nothing. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves, St Saviours Church, Saltley, Aston. > Morning All, > > Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. > > Many Thanks. > > Graeme Berry > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Graeme Sorry I can't help with your mammoth task but perhaps this link may be of use. http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/mi/mi_brum_salt.html Regards Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" <graemeberry@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves, St Saviours Church, Saltley, Aston. > Morning All, > > Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the > above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann > Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local > church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to > point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and > deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. > > Many Thanks. > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
My wife's grandfather, Benjamin George HARRIS, died on the Somme on 1/7/1916 aged 21. His Commonwealth War Graves Commission certificate shows his parents as Walter and Annie HARRIS of Railway Mission House, St. Andrew's St., Birmingham but I'm having no luck in tracing them. I've tried Googling "Birmingham Railway Mission House" but to no avail. Is it likely that the family would have been living there as caretakers, and if so, are there likely to be any employment records anywhere? Incidentally, my wife was also christened at this Mission House in 1938. Any help would be much appreciated. Regards, Allan Halstead
seems unlikely even if they were silver Nancy Curry <nancurry@msn.com> wrote: My Gr gr grandfather was a "spoonmaker" in Birminghamin about 1840. Would that be considered "jewelry" in a larger sense. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: j.dodd To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: [B'ham] Jewellery Quarter Three generations of my family (DODD) worked as jewellers in the Jewellery Quarter between about1850 and 1930. I am trying to find out what they made and where they worked. Does anybody have any ideas about where I could start. I have tried the Jewellery museum, but that doesn't seem very helpful. Also trying to find the antecedents of ENOCH DODD, b.1811, in King's Norton/Handsworth area. Can anyone help. Thank you John Dodd _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Graeme I agree with Barbara, however, you might understand a little more if you knew that to peruse just one roll of film takes around two hours. That is why Barbara suggested it was a 'big ask'. Your local LDS can obtain them for you if they have not got them in stock. It costs little or nothing. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" <graemeberry@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves, St Saviours Church, Saltley, Aston. > Morning All, > > Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. > > Many Thanks. > > Graeme Berry > >
This is true may be I am being greedy. Perhaps then from 1870 to 1900 Graeme Barbara Fisher <bafisher@ntlworld.com> wrote: "All the bap's, marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, ...." Rather a big ask, I would have thought. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves, St Saviours Church, Saltley, Aston. > Morning All, > > Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. > > Many Thanks. > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 04/01/07 > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
"All the bap's, marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, ...." Rather a big ask, I would have thought. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "GRAEME BERRY" <graemeberry@btinternet.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: [B'ham] Reeves, St Saviours Church, Saltley, Aston. > Morning All, > > Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. > > Many Thanks. > > Graeme Berry > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.5/616 - Release Date: 04/01/07 > >
Happy New Year to you all. I have a dilemma, my 5xG Grandfather THOMAS PERKINS was born 1719 in Sambourne near Coughton. There are 2 sets of Parents. Baptism Dates THOMAS PERKINS and ELIZABETH 3rd of August 1719, RICHARD PERKINS and ANN 12th August 1719. So I thought I would look at his brother RICHARD PERKINS and guess what he's got 2 sets of Parents Baptism Dates THOMAS PERKINS and ELIZABETH 17th June 1717 RICHARD PERKINS and ANN 15th January 1721. I just don't know which way to go, so I can continue to go back. Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks Pauline F.
I'm also looking for more information on my "HANDS". My ggg grandfather was a Joseph Hands b. Cheriton, Warwickshire. He was a shoemaker who migrated to Birmingham to work in the leather business. He had 4 children that I am aware of, Catherine, George, Mary Ann and John. Mary Ann married my gg grandfather Henry Chapman of Aston, a coach proprieter and publican. That's the sum of my knowledge - if anyone has any further information, I would be interested. Jane Whitaker Mike YEGWART <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Folks, Happy New Year to one and all. Yes, I'm looking at my HANDS again. My HANDS have variously escaped from Redditch/Tardebigge, Studley, Bromsgrove and Kings Norton over the past few hundred years. The database grows all the time. Another one this week popped up, one Henry HANDS, Blacksmith, of Bromsgrove, found in 1891 Deritend, Aston. So if anyone else has lost their HANDS, I may have found them. I also know a number of unrelated researchers who I may be able to put you in touch with. Kind regards Mike Yegwart _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Happy New Year to everyone connected to this list and a big thanks for all the help everyone has given me over the past twelve months. I`m especially happy having become a Grandfather to a little girl on New Year`s Day - another one for the Family History folder. Bob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4016 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!
Hello list, I would also, like to add to the group my HANDS. Sarah Ann PHILLIPS BROMWICH married John HANDS around/and or before 1832. Their daughter was born ~1832 in Hinton [in the Hedges] Northants. This is basically what I know! Can we connect any HANDS? Regards, Ezziej BROMWICH BROMWICH STORY SAYER & BROMWICH RESEARCH CORDINATOR __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Morning All, Can I please ask a favour, can someone look on the Parish Records of the above church, I am looking for any Reeves, as my G Grandmother, Mary Ann Reeves married my G Grandfather on 25th May 1891, and this was the local church, for the family, and Fred Miller of this list was good enough to point me in the correct direction, so I need all the bap's marriages and deaths of all the Reeves, to explore the family. Many Thanks. Graeme Berry
In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:35:03 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, jl.dodd@ntlworld.com writes: Three generations of my family (DODD) worked as jewellers in the Jewellery Quarter between about1850 and 1930. I am trying to find out what they made and where they worked. Hi, I have a book "Jewellery Making in Birmingham 1750-1995" by Sheena Mason. It has a listing of all the members of The Birmingham Jewellers' and Silversmiths' Association in 1915, and their addresses. I have looked in that listing and I cannot find any DODD names. This doesn't mean that they were not jewellers, just that they were not members of the Association. Georgina Goodby Fisher formerly from Sutton Coldfield now in Orange, California 6 miles east of Disneyland _www.goodbytree.org_ (http://www.goodbytree.org/) Goons member #4148 One Name Study of Goodby
Hello John If they were self employed, they would have had their own assay mark and details of what they made will be at the Assay Office. The Jewellery Quarter museum is possibly misleading to some people, because it is only concerned with Smith and Pepper, whose building it is in, and whose tools, etc are in place. Dr Sally Baggott is the curator at the Assay Office and she will be able to help if they were self employed. If you Google Birmingham Assay Office there is a 'contact us' link. Regards Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "j.dodd" <jl.dodd@ntlworld.com> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:19 PM Subject: [B'ham] Jewellery Quarter Three generations of my family (DODD) worked as jewellers in the Jewellery Quarter between about1850 and 1930. I am trying to find out what they made and where they worked. Does anybody have any ideas about where I could start. I have tried the Jewellery museum, but that doesn't seem very helpful. Also trying to find the antecedents of ENOCH DODD, b.1811, in King's Norton/Handsworth area. Can anyone help. Thank you John Dodd