I understand that the LDS transcribed their data from BTs (Bishops Transcripts), not the actual registers. Although the BTs should have been a copy of the registers the two do not always have the same information. Often items found in one are not in the other. LDS transcribers do miss records, and as those of us who have transcribed know that some records are almost impossible to read or get correct. For a record to appear on the IGI it had to go through the LDS rites first. Some transcribed records may not have had the rites performed yet, but I believe records recently transcribed no longer require this to appear on the IGI. The LDS will advise you of the correct situation. Keith Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "RaKay Dance" <rakaydance@hotmail.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > Could someone enlighten me on how this happens?? Did the LDS skip > pages > when they were filming or were there actual books of records that > were > missed?? RaKay > > >>From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> >>Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >>To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin >>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:04:30 +1300 >> >>Hi Pauline, >> >>A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being >>your >>winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few >>burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. >> >>The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 >>when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and >>came >>back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. >>Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays >>to >>go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. >> >>I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was >>delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast >>the >>summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, >>and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us >>and the iceage commith. >> >> >>Regards >> >>Keith Flinders >>Wellington, NZ >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> >>To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM >>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin >> >> >> > Hello Keith >> > >> > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham >> > Library. >> > >> > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is >> > very >> > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure >> > exactly how >> > many have been produced. >> > >> > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit >> > of a >> > long >> > way to travel!! >> > >> > Pauline >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> >> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM >> > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin >> > >> > >> >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this >> >> question. >> >> >> >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at >> >> Birmingham >> >> St, >> >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? >> >> >> >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not >> >> all >> >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have >> >> burials. >> >> >> >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather >> >> uncommon >> >> one. >> >> >> >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Keith Wellington, NZ >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > _____________________________________________ >> > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >> > http://www.bham.de/ >> > >> > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >> > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> > the >> > message >> > >> > >>_____________________________________________ >>Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>http://www.bham.de/ >> >>Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>'unsubscribe' >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. 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Hello list. I am keen to find out more about my ancestors (CURLEY, DRISCOLL, LINES/LOYNS, HENNIGAN/HANIGAN), in the Roman Catholic records 1840-1910. They seem to have worshipped at one time or another at most of the Birmingham RC churches, especially St.Peters and St.Chads. I do not have time to visit Birminham myself. Does anyone on the list know if the archivists at St.Chads for instance undertake research for a fee? Or, are there any other published or searchable sources of these registers? Many thanks for the help, James _____________________________________________ Dr James Curley www.eboracensis.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Kenneth William Bibb <kbibb@bigpond.com> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 8 January, 2007 10:03:02 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin Keith , You should be able to find family through the films you can hire from the LDS library, St George chr 1823-1875 mar 1830-1875 St Martin chr 1555-1875 mar 1554-1879 bts chr1718-1831 St Phillips chr1715-1863 mar 1715-1875 Ken B ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin Hi Keith I do realise it's a bit of a long way, hence the comment at the bottom of my e-mail. BMSGH have a lot of resources and you might find they have what you want. I believe St Philips to be very short on the IGI, I have not been able to find many of my family at all, either on St Philips or St Georges IGI, and they lived in the vicinity for close on 60 years, I believe them to be clearly unfinished. I did find, however, that one of the films (circa 1812) was unavailable, so perhaps that is the reason. I can find very few on St Georges, too, but have insufficient time to check that for the time being due to family and other commitments. Yes, the weather was good last summer, and now although it is winter, it's not like it used to be, we never freeze these days, which is good news for those of us who don't like the cold. It's been around 10-12º which is not too cold at all. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > Hi Pauline, > > A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being your > winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few > burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. > > The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 > when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and came > back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. > Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays to > go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. > > I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was > delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast the > summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, > and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us > and the iceage commith. > > > Regards > > Keith Flinders > Wellington, NZ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > Hello Keith > > > > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > > Library. > > > > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is very > > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > > exactly how > > many have been produced. > > > > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit of a > > long > > way to travel!! > > > > Pauline > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > > >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this question. > >> > >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at Birmingham > >> St, > >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? > >> > >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not all > >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have > >> burials. > >> > >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather uncommon > >> one. > >> > >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Keith Wellington, NZ > >> > >> > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Nancy, Actually there is a Mary Pritchard somewhere on my tree. I think she married a Hart. I'll look it up a little later and let you know. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Curry" <nancurry@msn.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 9:02 AM Subject: [B'ham] Curzon and Cardigan St.s > My PRITCHARDs and FOXES lived on Curzon and Cardigan sts in 1841. > Any relationship with either one of them? > NANCY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pauline Roberts<mailto:secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: > eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > Jan, there is a good possibility that railway workers may have lives in > the > area, as there was a station opened in 1837 - Curzon Street. > > It had an enormous goods yard, and my gt gt grandmother, who married a > railway worker, lived in Cardigan Street, off Curzon Street and at the > time > of the 1851 census she was a 'warehouse woman', so one can only imagine > she > worked in a goods warehouse, and thereby met her husband. > > Pauline > > > > > > > >> > _____________________________________________ > > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pauline, A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being your winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and came back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays to go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast the summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us and the iceage commith. Regards Keith Flinders Wellington, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > Hello Keith > > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > Library. > > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is very > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > exactly how > many have been produced. > > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit of a > long > way to travel!! > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this question. >> >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at Birmingham >> St, >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? >> >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not all >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have >> burials. >> >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather uncommon >> one. >> >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. >> >> Keith Wellington, NZ >> >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >

Hi all I know this is an American site but what an idea! Wendy

Hi Nancy Not that I know to, however, if one of them married a girl whose surname was SMITH, we might be in business. I have lost two. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Curry" <nancurry@msn.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: [B'ham] Curzon and Cardigan St.s My PRITCHARDs and FOXES lived on Curzon and Cardigan sts in 1841. Any relationship with either one of them? NANCY ----- Original Message ----- From: Pauline Roberts<mailto:secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts Jan, there is a good possibility that railway workers may have lives in the area, as there was a station opened in 1837 - Curzon Street. It had an enormous goods yard, and my gt gt grandmother, who married a railway worker, lived in Cardigan Street, off Curzon Street and at the time of the 1851 census she was a 'warehouse woman', so one can only imagine she worked in a goods warehouse, and thereby met her husband. Pauline > > > >> > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@ro otsweb.com> > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-reques t@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@ro otsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-reques t@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Keith I do realise it's a bit of a long way, hence the comment at the bottom of my e-mail. BMSGH have a lot of resources and you might find they have what you want. I believe St Philips to be very short on the IGI, I have not been able to find many of my family at all, either on St Philips or St Georges IGI, and they lived in the vicinity for close on 60 years, I believe them to be clearly unfinished. I did find, however, that one of the films (circa 1812) was unavailable, so perhaps that is the reason. I can find very few on St Georges, too, but have insufficient time to check that for the time being due to family and other commitments. Yes, the weather was good last summer, and now although it is winter, it's not like it used to be, we never freeze these days, which is good news for those of us who don't like the cold. It's been around 10-12º which is not too cold at all. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > Hi Pauline, > > A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being your > winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few > burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. > > The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 > when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and came > back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. > Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays to > go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. > > I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was > delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast the > summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, > and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us > and the iceage commith. > > > Regards > > Keith Flinders > Wellington, NZ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > Hello Keith > > > > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > > Library. > > > > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is very > > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > > exactly how > > many have been produced. > > > > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit of a > > long > > way to travel!! > > > > Pauline > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > > >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this question. > >> > >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at Birmingham > >> St, > >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? > >> > >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not all > >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have > >> burials. > >> > >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather uncommon > >> one. > >> > >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Keith Wellington, NZ > >> > >> > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > >

Hello all I have looked on a 1913 map, and Darwin Street, (which is now much shorter than it was originally), was very near to Camp Hill Goods Station, so I expect quite a few railway workers lived there or nearby - easy to walk to work. Pauline

Hi Ken This has made me look it up, and on a current map it's not particularly short, but I don't know if it was longer. I will look on one of my other maps later - looking at the other streets there, they have all been re-built, so I guess you could be right. As Jan had grouped the streets together, Allison St etc, and Darwin was in with them, I thought they were all together, but Darwin Street is a good walk away, but still not too far from a railway at Bordesley. I will come back to you later, probably tomorrow and let you know what my other map has revealed. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Poole" <kpoole01@rochester.rr.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:53 PM Subject: [B'ham] Re Darwin Street > If I read the maps correctly Darwin is a rather short street, has it been > shortened over > the years? > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > > Thanks for that. I thought, after reading some of the previous messages, > > the area may have had railway workers, Irish immigrants or some other > > minority group living there which may help with their research. > > > > Jan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM > > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > > > >> Jan > >> > >> What kind of things? The streets were full of ordinary folk, they were > >> not > >> wealthy places. Some of my ancestors lived in nearby streets, one was a > >> brass worker, one was a tailor. > >> > >> Pauline > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:00 PM > >> Subject: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > >> > >> > >> Relatives lived in these streets of Brum between 1841 and 1851. Does > >> anyone > >> know anything about the folk who may have lived there then? > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> _____________________________________________ > >> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > >> http://www.bham.de/ > >> > >> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello Karen If you sent for the death certificate of ONE of them then this may give you the answer. Kind regards Janet Northampton -----Original Message----- From: eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-warks-birmingham-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of angeloleto@bellsouth.net Sent: 05 January 2007 13:44 To: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM@rootsweb.com Subject: [B'ham] DAY, Henry & DAY, Caroline Ball Can someone do a look up for me please please... I have a Henry DAY, and his wife Caroline BALL DAY dying on 25 Sept 1865, the curious part is its the same day, Was it a Fire??, accident?? I would like to know what happened to them. Thank you, Karen _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/ Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/index.html, then 1841 cecus listings, then by parish. You will find out exactly who lived in those streets. Allison street is in Sty.Martin's parish, you'll have to look the others up on a parish map. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Poole" <kpoole01@rochester.rr.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > My relies lived on Darwin (Poole) and they were Silversmiths. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > >> Thanks for that. I thought, after reading some of the previous messages, >> the area may have had railway workers, Irish immigrants or some other >> minority group living there which may help with their research. >> >> Jan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts >> >> >>> Jan >>> >>> What kind of things? The streets were full of ordinary folk, they were >>> not >>> wealthy places. Some of my ancestors lived in nearby streets, one was a >>> brass worker, one was a tailor. >>> >>> Pauline >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> >>> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:00 PM >>> Subject: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts >>> >>> >>> Relatives lived in these streets of Brum between 1841 and 1851. Does >>> anyone >>> know anything about the folk who may have lived there then? >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >>> Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >>> http://www.bham.de/ >>> >>> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So If you go to the family history centers and view the actual films--both parish records and bishop's transcripts--are you still missing information that may be available in England?? RaKay >From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:39:49 +1300 > >I understand that the LDS transcribed their data from BTs (Bishops >Transcripts), not the actual registers. > >Although the BTs should have been a copy of the registers the two do >not always have the same information. Often items found in one are not >in the other. > >LDS transcribers do miss records, and as those of us who have >transcribed know that some records are almost impossible to read or >get correct. > >For a record to appear on the IGI it had to go through the LDS rites >first. Some transcribed records may not have had the rites performed >yet, but I believe records recently transcribed no longer require this >to appear on the IGI. The LDS will advise you of the correct >situation. > >Keith Wellington, NZ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "RaKay Dance" <rakaydance@hotmail.com> >To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:22 PM >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > Could someone enlighten me on how this happens?? Did the LDS skip > > pages > > when they were filming or were there actual books of records that > > were > > missed?? RaKay > > > > > >>From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > >>Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com > >>To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > >>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > >>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:04:30 +1300 > >> > >>Hi Pauline, > >> > >>A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being > >>your > >>winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few > >>burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. > >> > >>The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 > >>when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and > >>came > >>back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. > >>Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays > >>to > >>go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. > >> > >>I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was > >>delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast > >>the > >>summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, > >>and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us > >>and the iceage commith. > >> > >> > >>Regards > >> > >>Keith Flinders > >>Wellington, NZ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > >>To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM > >>Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > >> > >> > >> > Hello Keith > >> > > >> > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > >> > Library. > >> > > >> > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is > >> > very > >> > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > >> > exactly how > >> > many have been produced. > >> > > >> > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit > >> > of a > >> > long > >> > way to travel!! > >> > > >> > Pauline > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > >> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > >> > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > >> > > >> > > >> >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this > >> >> question. > >> >> > >> >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at > >> >> Birmingham > >> >> St, > >> >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? > >> >> > >> >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not > >> >> all > >> >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have > >> >> burials. > >> >> > >> >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather > >> >> uncommon > >> >> one. > >> >> > >> >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. > >> >> > >> >> Keith Wellington, NZ > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _____________________________________________ > >> > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > >> > http://www.bham.de/ > >> > > >> > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > >> > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > >> > the > >> > message > >> > > >> > > >>_____________________________________________ > >>Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > >>http://www.bham.de/ > >> > >>Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > >>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >>ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >>'unsubscribe' > >>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Type your favorite song. 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My PRITCHARDs and FOXES lived on Curzon and Cardigan sts in 1841. Any relationship with either one of them? NANCY ----- Original Message ----- From: Pauline Roberts<mailto:secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com<mailto:eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts Jan, there is a good possibility that railway workers may have lives in the area, as there was a station opened in 1837 - Curzon Street. It had an enormous goods yard, and my gt gt grandmother, who married a railway worker, lived in Cardigan Street, off Curzon Street and at the time of the 1851 census she was a 'warehouse woman', so one can only imagine she worked in a goods warehouse, and thereby met her husband. Pauline > > > >> > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > _____________________________________________ Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: http://www.bham.de/<http://www.bham.de/> Any problems, please contact the List Admin: ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In regards to a previous post, Henry DAY and Caroline BALL DAY dying on the same day. This was an error in the facts I receieved. That is actually their wedding date. They did however die in the Workhouse Western Rd. UD. They were fairly elderly when they were there can anyone tell me what work was expected of them there? Thanks, Karen

I am looking for 5 Ann Street, in Birmingham around the 1875 time period. Please and thank you. Jocelyn

Could someone enlighten me on how this happens?? Did the LDS skip pages when they were filming or were there actual books of records that were missed?? RaKay >From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> >Reply-To: eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com >To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 09:04:30 +1300 > >Hi Pauline, > >A trip to Birmingham would be nice, although not at present being your >winter. However a rather expensive way of finding details for a few >burials and perhaps the odd marriage that the IGI does not have. > >The degree of missing data on the IGI became apparent to me in 1993 >when a cousin in Nottingham went through the registers there and came >back with 40% more entries for Flinders from St. Marys, Nottingham. >Alas I don't have any cousins near Birmingham who are able nowadays to >go and do research. Age and infirmity has caught up with them. > >I spent 5 weeks in England August/September last year and was >delighted with the weather that was turned on for me. In contrast the >summer in this part of NZ has been the coldest on record since 1928, >and has seldom been above 16 degrees. Global warming has bypassed us >and the iceage commith. > > >Regards > >Keith Flinders >Wellington, NZ > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> >To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:22 PM >Subject: Re: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > Hello Keith > > > > Records for St Philip and St Martin are available in Birmingham > > Library. > > > > I know from my own research that all are not on the IGI, it is very > > incomplete. BMSGH have some fiche available, but I am not sure > > exactly how > > many have been produced. > > > > Google BMSGH and you can purchase from the site, as NZ is a bit of a > > long > > way to travel!! > > > > Pauline > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Keith NZ" <genmail@ihug.co.nz> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:23 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] Birmingham St. Philip and St. Martin > > > > > >> Birmingham is a new area of research for me, hence this question. > >> > >> Do indexes exist for baptisms, marriages and burial at Birmingham > >> St, > >> Martin and St. Philip for the period 1790 to 1837 ? > >> > >> The IGI has some marriages and some baptisms, but I suspect not all > >> for the above period I cite. But of course it does not have > >> burials. > >> > >> The surname I am interested in currently is WYON, a rather uncommon > >> one. > >> > >> Any guidance re the above will be much appreciated. > >> > >> Keith Wellington, NZ > >> > >> > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > >_____________________________________________ >Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: >http://www.bham.de/ > >Any problems, please contact the List Admin: >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song.  Get a customized station.  Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

Pauline and the parish was very fussy who they gave it to!! Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com>; <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Fw: Pauper > Diane, > > I thought I might be right, because I have found ancestors on censuses > with > no occupation because of their age, and no word pauper in the occupation > column. Obviously living on the generosity of others but not in receipt > of > Parish Relief. One wonders how these people actually lived, what they > ate, etc, it must have been dreadfully hard, as parish Relief was not > exactly generous! > > Pauline > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Diane Lowery" <geminidi19@rabbit.com.au> > To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 12:45 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Fw: Pauper > > >> >> Hi Pauline, >> >> That makes sense. She and the daughter-in-law (The Head) were both > widows, >> the eldest daughter was the only one working as a general servant and > there >> were three younger children. There wouldn't have been much money coming >> into the house. >> >> Diane >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> >> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 8:40 PM >> Subject: [B'ham] Pauper >> >> >> >I have been thinking about the previous posting of this on the list. >> > >> > Is a pauper not someone who is receiving Parish Relief? >> > >> > Pauline >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Diane We must be very soft you know, just reading this made me exhausted! Most of us have, at times, a tendency to think we are hard done by, but family history research makes you realise we don't know we are born. No leisure time whatsoever is unthinkable today. Pauline >From cold, wet, and dreary Tamworth, Staffs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Lowery" <geminidi19@rabbit.com.au> To: <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:12 PM Subject: [B'ham] Fw: Fw: Pauper > Hi Pauline, > > Even when the daughter married life wasn't any better. She took in washing > and charged a penny to do a basketful, then tuppence to iron it. There were > 8 kids to bring up too. It is hard to imagine. Apparently she also gave > birth to a set of male triplets (uncommon back then) who didn't survive and > a set of twins (probably miscarried.) No wonder she died at the young age > of 45. > > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com>; > <ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:47 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Fw: Pauper > > > > Diane, > > > > I thought I might be right, because I have found ancestors on censuses > > with > > no occupation because of their age, and no word pauper in the occupation > > column. Obviously living on the generosity of others but not in receipt > > of > > Parish Relief. One wonders how these people actually lived, what they > > ate, etc, it must have been dreadfully hard, as parish Relief was not > > exactly generous! > > > > Pauline > > >

Jan, there is a good possibility that railway workers may have lives in the area, as there was a station opened in 1837 - Curzon Street. It had an enormous goods yard, and my gt gt grandmother, who married a railway worker, lived in Cardigan Street, off Curzon Street and at the time of the 1851 census she was a 'warehouse woman', so one can only imagine she worked in a goods warehouse, and thereby met her husband. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > Thanks for that. I thought, after reading some of the previous messages, the > area may have had railway workers, Irish immigrants or some other minority > group living there which may help with their research. > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM > Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > > Jan > > > > What kind of things? The streets were full of ordinary folk, they were > > not > > wealthy places. Some of my ancestors lived in nearby streets, one was a > > brass worker, one was a tailor. > > > > Pauline > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:00 PM > > Subject: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > > > > Relatives lived in these streets of Brum between 1841 and 1851. Does > > anyone > > know anything about the folk who may have lived there then? > > Jan > > > > > > _____________________________________________ > > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > > http://www.bham.de/ > > > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

Thanks for that. I thought, after reading some of the previous messages, the area may have had railway workers, Irish immigrants or some other minority group living there which may help with their research. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Roberts" <secserve@wilnecote.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > Jan > > What kind of things? The streets were full of ordinary folk, they were > not > wealthy places. Some of my ancestors lived in nearby streets, one was a > brass worker, one was a tailor. > > Pauline > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Neil Hearn" <neil.hearn3@bigpond.com> > To: <eng-warks-birmingham@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 2:00 PM > Subject: [B'ham] Allison/Bartholomew/Great Barr/Darwin Sts > > > Relatives lived in these streets of Brum between 1841 and 1851. Does > anyone > know anything about the folk who may have lived there then? > Jan > > > _____________________________________________ > Tracing Ancestors in Birmingham: > http://www.bham.de/ > > Any problems, please contact the List Admin: > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-WARKS-BIRMINGHAM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >